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Airport Security Prize Announced

Reservoir Hill writes "Verified Identity Pass, a firm that offers checkpoint services at airports, has announced a $500,000 award for any solution that will make airport security checks quicker and simpler for passengers. The cash prize will go to any individual, company or institution that can get customers through airport security 15% faster, at a cost of less than 25 cents per passenger, using technology or processes that will be approved by the Transportation Security Administration (TSA). Passengers must not need to remove their clothes or shoes, something that slows down processing significantly. "We're looking at moving things that are conceptual or in the lab to things that we can deploy," says company spokesman Jason Slibeck and added that over 150 individuals, start-ups, defense contractors and universities have shown an interest in the prize. One promising procedure is mass spectroscopy, which involves analyzing the mass-charge ratio of ions on a swab sample taken from a passenger's clothing or air collected from around them to spot traces of substances including explosives or drugs. The Pre-Registration Package Information Sheet is available online."

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  1. Eliminate it? by nog_lorp · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The summary says nothing about maintaining security. Just abolish it, or limit it to the bare minimum and then have an air-marshal on every plain to stop people with box-cutters.

    1. Re:Eliminate it? by The+End+Of+Days · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Hell, hand out box cutters to every passenger. Sure, some people are gonna get hurt but no planes will be hijacked ever again.

    2. Re:Eliminate it? by palegray.net · · Score: 5, Informative

      Everyone (at least here in America) seems so focused on preventing people from getting on board a plane with a weapon. I think this kinda misses the point of a big part of airport security: the airport itself. This site gives a chronological list of some major security incidents in airports; it's not pretty stuff.

    3. Re:Eliminate it? by Harmonious+Botch · · Score: 5, Funny

      And it will cut down on those annoying cell phone conversations.

    4. Re:Eliminate it? by Brian+Gordon · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The American political system is about getting the most votes; if planes scare Americans then that's what they're going to lock down- why would you expect anything else from a constitutional republic? Also about airports.. why not just get the national guard involved? You sure don't see many incidents in Israel that got beyond "Man pulls gun in airport, gets hand then head blasted off with 50 caliber sniper rifle"..

    5. Re:Eliminate it? by Beardo+the+Bearded · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Yeah, can we use statistical analysis to compare the number of people who die in terrorist-related airplane accidents compared to, say, the number of people who die in car accidents or toilet-related accidents?

      I think the line is: "On Sept 11, 2001, 40,000 children starved to death."

      But yeah, your air-marshal plan kicks ass and you should get a cheque. Never mind some ridiculously over-priced chemical sniffer (hello, dogs?) or facial recognition software (hello, it's fooled by smiling).

      Just have a guy (or girl) with a gun on every flight. Perfect solution.

      Oh, add a Faraday cage to every plane so remote explosives can't get their signals.

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    6. Re:Eliminate it? by Nefarious+Wheel · · Score: 5, Insightful

      ...is there any rational reason ... for the huge focus on the damned planes?

      Not really, no. While we focus on aircraft they'll focus on something else while we're distracted.

      What about an entirely different commerce disruption activity, such as threatening communications (e.g. recent undersea cable mystery) or even critical infrastructure points (e.g. the California Aqueduct)? Are we spending sufficient of our anti-terror effort on things that the enemy have not drawn our attention toward?

      Look at the Secret Service guarding the President. They don't all stare at they guy they're guarding, or the place where the last attempt was made. They're looking everywhere and they're trained to cover the zones. If we fixate on aircraft as a point of vulnerability we're in danger of ignoring the other possibilities. We need to think, not react.

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    7. Re:Eliminate it? by gnick · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Are we spending sufficient of our anti-terror effort on things that the enemy have not drawn our attention toward? Only a little bit. That's what's so frustrating for me. I'm funded full-time working counter-terror. In an area where we're vulnerable and in an area where the terrorists have shown a lot of interest. But, it's an area where we've never seen an attack. So... I have to work in, IMHO, an underfunded security area while watching $$ that could be well spent go to short-sighted initiatives.

      I swear I'm not trolling here, just venting, but this post may earn me a couple of /. Freaks. The nonsensical shit behind some of these security decisions almost makes me want a dictator who can make sensible decisions based on the country's needs instead of a bunch of pandering vote-whores who only care about sound-bites. I'm behind democracy and I hate what W has done with his almighty pen, so I'll oppose the shift toward totalitarianism at every turn. But it's stuff like this that makes me pissed off at Americans in general.
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    8. Re:Eliminate it? by cayenne8 · · Score: 4, Insightful
      From the TFA: "One promising procedure is mass spectroscopy, which involves analyzing the mass-charge ratio of ions on a swab sample taken from a passenger's clothing or air collected from around them to spot traces of substances including explosives or drugs."

      I thought the job of the TSA was to make it safe to fly....catch potential terrorists. What does that have to do with detecting drugs? Do they think someone smuggling a couple of joints with them, is going to fire them up, and bring down the plane?

      I'm surprised they aren't wanting to detect large sums of cash....we all know THAT will solve a lot of hijacking problems.

      It'll sure show those MIT blackjack whizzes a thing or two...no more strapping money on your body to go to Vegas with....

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  2. How about by plover · · Score: 5, Funny
    How about handing everyone in line a one-use single shot pistol? It'd take about 15 seconds to show them how to turn the safety off and shoot it -- no worse than figuring out how to use the seat belt.

    You only get one bullet. It's preloaded, can't even be unloaded, maybe small caliber, maybe fairly low velocity, and has a 75% chance of being a blank. Tag the bullets, and maybe ink-tag the gun so it sprays the user when the trigger is pulled. Maybe even a point-blank "contact trigger", kind of like a nail gun -- you'd have to put the gun directly on someone to shoot them, avoiding aim problems in a crowded plane.

    Turn them in at the end of a flight -- everyone got one while boarding, everyone better turn the same one over when leaving.

    Anybody tries anything on the plane, and *bang* -- if a dozen passengers shoot at him, at least a couple are likely to nail him.

    That's security through strength in numbers.

    Who do I go see about collecting my $500,000?

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    1. Re:How about by Crypto+Gnome · · Score: 4, Funny

      As I understand it, ASOs are the lite version of Air Marshals I've always said the TSA was a pack of ASO's.
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    2. Re:How about by zippthorne · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Back oh about 7 years ago, and for the previous half-century, the airlines were responsible for what happened on their flights. As a result, they chose to set their terms of doing business: they demanded that passengers agree not to carry weapons and submit to a search to prove they are not carrying weapons.

      This was perfectly acceptable, as, as private entities, they are well within their rights to set whatever terms of doing business they wish, with very few exceptions. I.e., some requirements that are to onerous, or unreasonable disclaimers of liability are not enforceable, but the particular terms they chose don't fall under that category.

      You still had your second amendment right, but you agreed to refrain from exercising it as part of the terms of the ticket.

      Following September 11, 2001, Federal agencies took over the rule-making and enforcing, and were able to violate constitutionally protected rights because travelers had gotten used to the restrictions when they were made by an organization that actually had the authority to request them. That's why the second amendment stops at the airport gates.

      Fortunately, you don't actually have to cross the airport gates to travel by air. Private charters, buddies, etc, can all fly without ever connecting to a terminal. You can, of course, take whatever you want with you on those flights (as long as the charter company or your friend don't object) GA, the best kept secret of the aviation industry.

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  3. I know! by kongit · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Remove all Airport security. Lots more convenient, and probably about as secure.


    Do I win?

    1. Re:I know! by danielsfca2 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      someone who simply decides to take a gun on board a plane with you and shoot you.


      OMFG. How can one be so paranoid about foul play on an airplane? You know, this same guy who wants to shoot you on the plane could just as easily shoot you:
      • On a bus
      • On a commuter train
      • In the line at 7/11
      • At the gas pump
      • In the line at Comcast waiting to drop off your cable box
      • At Starbucks while you wait for your latte
      • At work! The janitor might be a terrorist!
      • The toll-taker at the bridge


      Now please explain to me why we need this bullcrap draconian security theatre to board a plane, but we don't need it at all those locations I listed above? I dare you.
    2. Re:I know! by fahrbot-bot · · Score: 4, Insightful
      You know, this same guy who wants to shoot you on the plane could just as easily shoot you: ...

      You're confused. Air travel security is NOT about protecting passengers. It's about protecting the airplane (expensive), the airline (big corporations), the perception of air travel in general (industry), and anything the airplane may crash onto (collateral damage). The people are of little consequence and the government cares little about you/us.

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  4. How about. by Creepy+Crawler · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Dogs?

    Yeah, trained dogs..

    Dogs can smell fear, and many chemical substances. You just have a pack of em and train them to bark ferociously when they "sense" trouble. Police dogs already have that kind of leeway.

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    1. Re:How about. by Mr.+Flibble · · Score: 4, Interesting

      How about those who are afraid of dogs? Or those who are afraid of flying? That would trigger a great deal of false positives.

      Also, I have worked with dogs, and police dogs specifically, and I don't find their purported "detection" ability to be as good as public opinion makes it out to be.

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  5. Smoke a joint and mellow out by Foofoobar · · Score: 4, Funny

    Did I win?

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  6. Make it accountable by toupsie · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The main problem with airport security is the people manning the checkpoints. Their goal is not to get you through in the quickest period of time. They are not professional, they do not care about the happiness of their customers and appear to get their kicks by making your life miserable with their "authority". If you complain about their behavior, is rectified or do you get a rectal exam for it? There should be bonus incentives for prompt and courteous service. Have random samples of folks that have been through security give feedback on their service. Run "tests" to ensure security. Make someone accountable for the service. Unfortunately, government agencies are never accountable for the service provided to citizens. Run it like a for profit business where the customer is the focus.

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  7. Give up the charade? by Nursie · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Stop the ridiculous liquid thing for a start.

    Yes, there WAS a plot to do that. It was an epic fail from the start and there's no reasons to keep the restrictions in place.

    Hey, I have a good one, everyone checks in *everything* and flies naked. Then we'll finally be safe.

  8. There is good stuff already out there by Original+Replica · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I recently worked on a gig where many high profile business and political figures were attending. I walked through a SecureScan system. I'm a stagehand, so I had tools on me. I the scan operator could tell the difference between my 8" crescent wrench, my multi-tool, and my Spyderco knife as I walked through at a normal pace. I know because he only asked about my knife, not the other tools.

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  9. A large tank of water by stox · · Score: 5, Funny

    If they float, they're a witch^H^H^H^H^H^H^Hterrorist. If they sink, they're not. Seems about as valid as any other TSA methodology.

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  10. Re:The purpose is fear by lgw · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I am not afraid of terrorists. I am not afraid of what might happen to my airplane, or at the airport. I do, however, value my freedom, and a constitution that *specifically* says that the goverment can't search people this way. I wish people in power would stop being afraid on my behalf.

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  11. A still open flaw... by Toreo+asesino · · Score: 4, Insightful

    A few times now, I've travelled on a plane with heavy computer equipment. Every time, i've checked in the main boxes minus hard-discs which I've taken as hand-luggage. Sometimes in fact, it's been so heavy the baggage at the end it's needed to be checked in via the heavy/awkward baggage drop as it's approached the 40kg mark. The thing is, every time I've done this, I've always made sure they known there's a computer inside my bag because to my mind, solid steel casing encasing circuit boards with wires coming out of it is about as suspicious a package as you can get.

    What gets me is that no one seems to give a shit about what's in there - not once have they even looked to check when it goes through the ex-ray machine; lighting it up like a Christmas tree. They just assume that because it's being checked in with me, it's safe? I don't know, this is just my experience.
    The discs I'm taking on as hand-luggage is a different story. I've had to explain to person after person that they're "hard-discs for a kom-pooo-ta!" not in fact weapons of mas destruction, nor agents of deadly nerve gas.

    Now to my mind, if you can get a 40kg bag checked into a plane without any/many checks because it's not hand-luggage, you're just asking for trouble. The bombs that went of in Madrid were mobile detonated....what if after boarding the plane you don't suddenly "get a headache" just before take-off (of course they wont take off with your bag still in the hold), nip outside and blow the lot to kingdom come once at a safe distance? Baggage handlers aren't known for their efficiency, and imagine doing it on a plane with 300 passengers.

    My point is, to my mind, this is a huge hole. Most plane hijackers have been willing to sacrifice themselves too, so just getting a "computer" into the hold would be enough...

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  12. Normally I don't respond to AC by geekoid · · Score: 4, Informative

    But since so many people harbor the fallacy that firing a gun I'll make an exception.

    I can tell you exactly what will happen. A quite hiss. You can not create a fiery disaster on a plane with a handgun, or a shot gun. Also, the person being shot at will die.

    Of course, you have normal procedure.

    I've seen it, so unless you can provide some counter evidence, STFU.

    All this ignoring the fact the O2 masks are useless. They ahve never saved a life. Any aircraft incident large enough to cause deployment means the aircraft will desend rapidly, preferably under control, but not always.

    Since there is air at the altitude the plane is flying, and the fact that in about 90 seconds you will be at an altitude with sufficient air, they really aren't need.

    All other incidents render them moot.

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  13. Another one: by geekoid · · Score: 4, Funny

    See Fifth Element. Lock people in cabins and knock them out.

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  14. The only logical solution by Dracos · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ...from a perspective not saturated by fear is to revert to the policies and procedures in place on September 10, 2001

  15. Re:The purpose is fear by wumingzi · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The main purpose behind the security is to keep the population frightened and annoyed.

    No. That's the purpose behind the ever-popular bad security, popular with tinpot governments and nasty IT departments the world over.

    Real security is supposed to let legitimate users get on with their jobs, stopping bad guys in their tracks, and being as invisible as possible.

    If you want a good example of real security, go to London Heathrow airport. It's nice. It's pleasant. It's a giant shopping mall where airplanes land. You never see anything there but happy tourists and
    the odd lightly armed police officer.

    That's an illusion. Hundreds of people are around to make sure that nothing goes sideways there.

    I heard a FOAF story about someone who "tripped the alarm" (in this case, walking through a door plainly marked "Do Not Enter")

    The results were amazing.

  16. Already solved. by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Hell, hand out box cutters to every passenger. Sure, some people are gonna get hurt but no planes will be hijacked ever again.

    That's not an issue - the problem of airplanes being hijacked and used as weapons was solved at 10:03 AM on 2001-09-11 over a field in Shanksville, PA.

    'Average' Americans figured out the security equation just more than an hour after the first plane hit Tower 1.

    Everything since is a distraction.

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  17. Re:amendment++ by dgatwood · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Times changes - have you seen the Muslim interment camps? Thanks goodness, you haven't.

    We haven't seen them, but sadly, this is only because the people in power have gotten smarter about hiding they. Now, they put these camps in Cuba, various European countries, etc. Sure, they're not rounding up every Muslim in the U.S. this time, but they are periodically treating folks who live in Muslim communities like criminals, and it is highly likely that there are people who in the U.S. internment camps like Gitmo who shouldn't be there.

    It's the New American Way: reduce the head count and offshore everything.... *sigh*

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