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The Century's Top Engineering Challenges

coondoggie writes "The National Science Foundation announced today 14 grand engineering challenges for the 21st century that, if met, would greatly improve how we live. The final choices fall into four themes that are essential for humanity to flourish — sustainability, health, reducing vulnerability, and joy of living. The committee did not attempt to include every important challenge, nor did it endorse particular approaches to meeting those selected. Rather than focusing on predictions or gee-whiz gadgets, the goal was to identify what needs to be done to help people and the planet thrive, the group said. A diverse committee of engineers and scientists — including Larry Page, Robert Langer, and Robert Socolow — came up with the list but did not rank the challenges. Rather, the National Academy of Engineering is offering the public an opportunity to vote on which one they think is most important."

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  1. "Prevent nuclear terror" by Sylos · · Score: 5, Insightful

    How is that an engineering feat? Seems more like a people feat.

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  2. The biggest challenge, by far by stox · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Getting funding for the top 14 engineering challenges.

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    1. Re:The biggest challenge, by far by Zeinfeld · · Score: 5, Insightful
      Getting funding for the top 14 engineering challenges.

      Well that is the point of the exercise here, NSF trying to get money from Congress. But its more of an aspirational list of goals and the real problem is that the feedback system is out of whack.

      You might imagine that either industry or academia would care about stopping Internet Crime, but what Industry actually cares about is making the numbers at the end of the quarter and the best way to do that is to make your bank, business or other crime target a less attractive target than the business next door.

      Academia is meant to do basic research, but the measurement of production is minimum publishable units, publish or perish. And to get a paper published it has to be novel rather than important or useful. So we know how to do secure email in principle but nobody uses it in practice - across the Internet at least. The academics never quite finished the job and the incentives are not quite right for industry to be bothered.

      Often an academic will solve a problem long before it is understood to be a problem. By the time the problem is recognized and the time is right to finish the job and make it useful the field has moved on. Nobody is going to get the credit for pointing out that Fred proposed a solution for a problem twenty years ago.

      Most academic papers in info security are describing solutions to boutique cryptographic puzzles. Real world constraints are irrelevant. So at FC this year there was a paper that started with the idea of stopping counterfeiting of currency by printing barcodes on the notes. Good, interesting. The scheme then involved people scanning them with their cell phone camera. WTF ???? Wrong problem, the challenge the fed is trying to solve is to spot the introduction of fake notes quickly, they can do that with scanners in banks. The banks can be persuaded to install scanners but no consumer is going to spend time scanning their change at the convenience store with a cell phone.

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    2. Re:The biggest challenge, by far by flyingsquid · · Score: 5, Funny
      Getting funding for the top 14 engineering challenges.

      Well, it wouldn't be such a challenge if, you know, all the goals weren't so incredibly LAME. "Health informatics"? Bo-ring! Here's *my* list of challenges:

      (1) Flying car.

      (2) Cure for the hangover.

      (3) Sex robot. As kinky as Madonna with the flexibility of a contortionist.

      (4) Plug-in memory expansions so you can learn useful skills, equations, etc. without sitting through boring lectures and tests.

      (5) Baldness cure.

      (6) Beer that makes you skinnier instead of fatter.

      (7) Dog-cat hybrid. Like a cat, it doesn't need your attention constantly, but it pays attention when you want it to, like a dog. It's comes when you call it like a dog, but it's clean like a cat. Plus, it barks AND purrs.

      (8) Teleporter. I'm sick of commuting.

      (9) Perpetual youth.

      (10) Ballpoint pen that doesn't run out of ink just when you need it most.

      (11) Formulas that make you grow bigger or smaller, just like Alice in Wonderland.

      (12) Television remote with built in homing device and tiny little robot legs. So even if you misplace it, it always finds its way back to where it should be.

      (13) A version of Microsoft Office that doesn't, you know, suck so much.

      (14) Slashdot editors who are genetically engineered so that they can actually spell and are familiar with basic punctuation and grammar.

    3. Re:The biggest challenge, by far by wall0159 · · Score: 5, Funny

      Based upon your list, I'd conclude that you're

      1) a nerd
      2) a drunk
      3) virginal
      4) ignorant
      5) bald
      6) overweight
      7) lonely
      8) lazy
      9) middle-aged
      10) a stained-shirt wearer
      11) have an inferiority complex
      12) TV obsessed
      13) a nerd (did I say that already?)
      14) somewhat OCD

      but hey! it's just a list ;-)

      (ps. I'm just taking the piss - please take this in the spirit in which it is intended.)

  3. I would add: by Frank+Grimes · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I would add: An electric battery with an energy density comparable to gasoline.

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    1. Re:I would add: by cgraves · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I would add: An electric battery with an energy density comparable to gasoline. The problem is that gasoline combustion gets about 80% by weight of its reactants from the air (O2). Though the energy stored in batteries can be much more efficiently used, they store their oxidizer inside, so even if we could gasoline itself in a battery, it cannot be as dense. Unless it is an air battery, at which point you are looking more and more like a fuel cell.

      But, yes hopefully we can approach "comparable".
  4. Who are these idiots? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    * Develop carbon sequestration methods
    No thanks, I'd prefer real alternative energy solutions.

    * Restore and improve urban infrastructure
    Could you be any more vague?

    * Prevent nuclear terror
    I thought these were engineering challenges.

    * Advance personalized learning
    Give me a break.

  5. Missing option: holes. by w3woody · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I'm with Scott Adams: Holes.

    To summarize, what we need is a better way to dig cheap holes.

    Think of it: with a cheap way to drill a hole we can drill down close to the mantle of the earth for cheap geothermal. With a cheap way to dig a tunnel we can expand our freeway infrastructure by placing new roads below ground. Infrastructure can be run underground more cheaply--if we have a cheap hole to run them through.

    Holes are the future.

  6. Re:I AM A FUCKING TROLL by calebt3 · · Score: 5, Funny

    +1 Inciteful.

  7. Re:Carbon sequestration by Raul654 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    First, diamonds are *not* a rare commodity. That is a myth that the De Beers diamond cartel has spent a century trying to create. De Beers tightly controls the supply, so that they appear to be rare. It's also a self-reinforcing myth - people think diamonds are rare, so they don't sell old family heirlooms, and thus there is no secondary market for diamonds.

    Second, we already have the technology to create diamonds in a lab. See the wikipedia article on the subject. (At this point, I should mention that De Beers also tightly controls the diamond cutter workforce -- any diamond cutter who cuts for a company other than De Beers is immediately cut off from doing any De Beers work)

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  8. Re:"Prevent nuclear terror" - also by sien · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Apparently nuclear war is just dandy. It's nuclear terrorism we have to worry about.


    The declared nuclear states (and Israel with it's undeclared undeclared weapons) and their delivery systems and willingness to invade other non-nuclear states is just fine, it's the people with no weapons and little realistic hope of getting them.


  9. The List (with annotations) by RobBebop · · Score: 5, Informative
    1. Make solar energy affordable - Done
    2. Provide energy from fusion - This is something I don't know anything about.
    3. Develop carbon sequestration methods - More information
    4. Manage the nitrogen cycle - More information. I feel like on a basic, local level this can already be accomplished easily. On an advanced/global level though... Manage it? In the next 100 years maybe we can gather some data points so we can UNDERSTAND it. Until then, any attempts to "manage" it would be foolish
    5. Provide access to clean water - Tried and true method and 1, 2, 3 Orgs doing it.
    6. Restore and improve urban infrastructure - And run on-time and build more parks - but who will fund it?
    7. Advance health informatics - This "engineering goal" is too general to discuss. It's like, make it easier to get useful data on our health. Duh!
    8. Engineer better medicines - I think "Engineer better robots" would be a more worthwhile engineering goal... but that's just me.
    9. Reverse-engineer the brain - Teaching it, and studying it
    10. Prevent nuclear terror - This is a political bombshell that I won't go near, but from what I see the strategy is (a) deterrence, and (b) threaten anybody with a nuclear project.
    11. Secure cyberspace - Ha!
    12. Enhance virtual reality - In a practical way or just enough so that my brain can be tricked into thinking that an incredibly hot women is going down on me?
    13. Advance personalized learning - Not sure what this is...
    14. Engineer the tools for scientific discovery - Another overly general one, but I'd like to think "discovery" is a misspelling of "exploration". Lately I've been thinking that our satellites are similar to the Triremes of Greece times (which are bound to stay close to our shores), the Apollo/Space Shuttle is like Viking ships (which couldn't (or weren't) be used to setup a new settlement), and then this would be the equivalent of the Nina, Pinta, and Santa Maria (except they will be called Washington, Jefferson, Franklin, and Lincoln).

    I am going to be fair... this is really a list of things that can be completed in the next 25 years. These are not "100 year" goals. They are simply to generalized, for the most part. A real engineer knows that goals should be Specific, Measurable, and ARTistic. These goals don't qualify.

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  10. Re:Carbon sequestration by Dahamma · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The technology that's being talked about is carbon mineralifcation - the technology to turn CO2 into graphite, or diamond, or soot. That's would be a huge help in fighting global warming.

    Hah. ok, the obvious problem with this is that turning CO2 into coal is the opposite of what we have been doing for the past 200 years. How do you accomplish that? Put the energy back into the coal! But if we could do that, the first thing we'd do is use all of that energy to replace the energy we still obtain by burning coal (and other hydrocarbons) in the first place.

    So, it seems like the only way to do that is to solve the "energy problem" that is putting so much CO2 into our atmosphere already. Once we fix that, then the surplus energy can be used to remove all the CO2 we have already put into the atmosphere...

    I understand that's a total oversimplification, but the point is: cure the disease, not the symptoms!

  11. Diamond-cutting guilds by Dr.+Cody · · Score: 5, Funny

    (At this point, I should mention that De Beers also tightly controls the diamond cutter workforce -- any diamond cutter who cuts for a company other than De Beers is immediately cut off from doing any De Beers work)
    The diamond cutter workforce is also dominated by Hasidic Jews. When I first saw a documentary on the industry, I thought it was an odd combination, but then, it came to me. Hundreds of years ago, there's this guy, and he's thinking:

    "Hmmmm... I've got all these diamonds; now who can I hire that has experience in precision cutting work where any mistake has grave consequences...

    "I've got it!"

  12. Re:"Prevent nuclear terror" - also by tsotha · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Declared nuclear states (and states like Israel that are unofficially declared) are just fine. If the Israelis lob a nuke at the Russians, they know they have only twenty minutes or so to make peace with whomever they worship. India and Pakistan, both nuclear armed countries that have, what, seven wars under their collective belt haven't nuked each other. Fear is a wonderful demotivator.

    But terrorism is different. Let's say Al Queda gets ahold of a nuclear bomb. What, exactly, is their downside to actually using it? Who would we retaliate against if they used it to blow up New York? Hell, they might not care if we went on a big bombing spree, since all the dead Muslims are gonna get their virgins.

    And why are you so sanguine about their chances of actually acquiring one? The technology is over sixty years old - you can get plans off the internet. People have been caught selling stolen Russian fissionables now on more than one occasion. And terrorist groups don't seem to have a big problem attracting engineers. Sure, they probably couldn't build a fusion bomb, and a crude fission bomb might be large and have a yield of "only" 50kt or so. That would be enough to kill millions.

    Personally, I don't think nuclear terrorism is an "if" question. It's a "when" question. But short of a verifyable, complete international ban on all nuclear devices, including power stations, I don't see how it can be prevented.