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Did Amazon Induce Vista's Premature Birth?
theodp writes "A recent Amazon SEC filing sheds light on the puzzling departure of Microsoft Sr. VP Brian Valentine in Sept. 2006. Valentine is the Gen. George Patton-like figure charged with pushing Vista developers, who dumped the still not-ready-for-prime-time OS into RC1 status as he bolted for a new gig at Amazon. Having repeatedly assured everyone that Valentine was staying with the company post-Vista, Microsoft backpedaled and explained that Valentine decided to leave since the company had shipped a near-final version of Vista. Not so. Although analysts fell for the PR line, it seems Valentine had actually signed an Employment Agreement way back in June calling for him to be on board at Amazon on Sept. 11 if he wanted to pick up a $1.7M signing bonus, $150K base salary, another $500K bonus, and 400K shares of Amazon stock (now worth almost $30M). Who says you have to shell out $999.95 for MS-Project to come up with accurate planned completion dates?"
To make him worth that kind of money?
What competition? OS X? Linux?
The only real competition Vista has is XP.
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How to I get down on the action to rush out a release candidate and then leave for a large bonus and some stock options which will make me a millionaire?
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I'll crank out a dodgy RC1 for tomorrow if you've got a couple of million for me too.
That sounds like a pretty sweet deal.
However, somehow I'm finding myself not actually surprised to know that Vista got prematurely elevated by someone who no longer gave a shit. That has the ring of truthiness about it.
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Why did they have to rip out WinFS ..and why did they rip it out before he left .. it's not in RC1 even?
You can only fault the guy for not finishing his obligations with his current company and choosing to cut and run to make the most money. On the other hand companies (at least in the US) have no loyalty to their employees anymore either. I think bad companies and bad employees and managers deserve one another.
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As I recall, a lot of companies who'd forked over lots of dollars for multi-year support agreements back around 2001 (there was some marketing phrase, I forget what) were starting to grumble that the promised new releases included in the price hadn't yet been released, and the agreements were about to expire.
This is one of the factors that prompted the early release of the "business" version of Vista in late 2006 instead of it being released along with the home version in early 2007.
Not that any businesses really wanted to touch that, but it let Microsoft say they'd lived up to their part of the agreement (in their own inimitable (innovative?) Microsoft way, of course).
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If I knew a manager under me was looking to leave the company, I'd make sure his replacement was being trained and put in place long before the departure. How the hell can you expect any continuity in the process with people popping in and out? You can't run a fast food joint like that, let alone a major multi-billion dollar corporation.
I also would like to know what this guy does that's worth that kind of money. You'd almost thing it would have to be sexual.
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Well, you can fault people for what they do to make money. But just making money?
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Even if the manager does not jump ship, he might get killed in a plane crash etc.
The cool thing for a ship-jumping manager is that he gets away clean. Even if he leaves a mess behind he can always twist it: "Now that I've left, everything has fallen apart. Look at how good I am! Hand me another million share options".
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Yep, that is why you see Vista people moving to Linux in droves. In actuality, people usually "upgrade" to XP. I put that in quotes, because people on Slashdot like to say that all the time.
Sorry but I'm quite satisfied with XP. It's solid as a rock and I haven't seen a crash in years.
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I think the point is that Valentine decided to leave, and MS knew that would look bad to investors. So MS pushed Vista out the door to give investors the impression that Valentine was leaving because there was nothing more to do on Vista.
Brian Valentine was known throughout the company as a guy who could take troubled products that were floundering and he could get them shipped. But leadership in Windows is cursed to two releases.
Moshe Dunie pushed out two major versions of NT and floundered with NT5 (Windows 2000) and couldn't integrate 9x. Valentine came in, got the organization in order, and Windows 2000 was a success. He kept it up to merge the organization and features from Win9x, and miraculously got XP out in less than two years with nearly all the good planned features. Then, Longhorn became his NT5. Everybody in the organization had massive planned super-features that weren't fully baked in the ideas phase. The org got sidetracked by Springboard and Trainyard rollouts for XP. They had a massive brain drain getting rid of FTEs below level 88 and told long term contractors to take a hike. The employees that were left had their institutional knowledge too diluted and strung out trying to teach new H1B and college hires while managing Chinese and Indian outsource firms doing half the work.
So what do you get? Vista. Valentine is no dummie. He pushed aside other execs that were wallowing in development hell projects. Now he was the one in development hell. He arranged his own exit on his terms. Good for him.
Sinofsky will get a Vista replacement out by 2009 and it'll be a clean-up release that makes a lot of people happy. Lots of stuff cut from Vista will get back in, done right. He'll get a big feature release out by 2011. After that you won't see another major Windows release until 2015.
Having worked in the software industry, I know sometimes you have to bite the bullet, ship the product and deal with the fallout. Would it have been better to wait? Maybe. Would the product have been better after another year of development? Maybe not, it's been over a year and they can't get the 1st service pack out.
It's probably a testament to the tenacity of Microsoft that Vista was ever released at all. Vista could have been the end of Microsoft as a company. Now the product is out and they have, at least at some level, made money on it. Now all they have to do is put some lipstick on the pig - something they have been very good at over the years.
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You also have to stop and consider that perhaps he had been waiting a while to leave. I believe that at this point Vista kept getting delayed and moving to the right. He probably had a lot of pressure from MS management to wrap up Vista as well and get it shipping ready or not. At some point he probably had to make the decision to cut their losses and get it out the door. With the ever stretching time frame of the development he probably hung in there longer then he wanted to.
There were a bunch of features that were planned and hyped, but then cut, like WinFS. Or how about a team spending a year designing the shutdown menu?
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Not broken development. Broken management. There is a difference. Vista is the result of the latter.
The thing is that he didn't release Vista, just RC1. RC1 isn't the shipping OS. Sounds like someone still at Microsoft is trying to point the blame at someone who left a year before. This isn't Hit and Run, it's Duck and Cover.
No, this doesn't shift blame from Microsoft at all. That's why they didn't want this to be known.
Release Candidates are supposed to be versions you *think* are worthy to ship, but need to undergo thorough testing to make sure. Any changes that need to be made should be minor.
If he upgraded the project to RC1 status, and the testing showed that it wasn't anywhere near ready for release, then Microsoft could have downgraded it in a jiffy and said more work needed to be done. Or kept it at "RC1" for a long time before making "RC2" which would be the first real Release Candidate.
Instead they ended up pushing it out the door in short order (maybe not RC1 specifically, but only a minor change from it), so as to make it look like the project was indeed almost ready for release and that's why the project leader left. As opposed to this version of events, which looks more like the project wasn't going good and the project leader got a better offer so he jumped ship and left the project to hang.
It doesn't make MS look good at all.
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There is no executive no matter how talented who's absence would create a problem this large. The senior suit leaves and all of a sudden the minions of program managers and bit heads running the company's #1 product release all go insane on the same day?
Tell you what - HIS boss, whoever that is, as well as all the direct reports to that now gone suit should be fired w/o hesitation. Whether you like MS or hate them, this is textbook how not to develop and release a product so either someone's lying or, if this is really how MS functions then it speaks volumes for what's profoundly wrong with MS and why all their major releases are screwed up a little bit.
Well if I was about to be tied to a stinker like Vista, which would stink on ice. (or as George Carlin once said '... could knock a buzzard off a sh#twagon') I would want to salvage some sort of appearance of success as I bailed out of the company and on to millions. As long as the contract is signed at the new job then I don't care how wet the ink is when it all goes to hell. Vista was going to go down so hard it was going to taint everybody who even lived nearby let alone Microsoft. I can't fault the guy for knowing when its about to hit the fan.
Personally I think I will stay out of Management thank you very much.
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I have a TRS-80 Model 4-P that shows otherwise.
When the TRS line started, it was almost exclusivly for small business and business education. I bought mine used and the guy who sold it to me had nearly everything that was made for it. There wasnt much science or entertainment stuff, but if you needed to do payroll, accounting, inventory, use a database, write a program in any popular language of the day etc.etc, I had (the media is probably corrupt after all this time) the retail software package to do it.
I think the guy said it cost him 3500 bucks new for the hardware. About 1/2- 1/3 the price of a new car. If you wanted a gaming computer, you bought the much cheaper CoCo. The models 1-4, pocket computer and the others were VERY business minded.
I wonder if that old beast will still boot... eh too lazy to dig it out.
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