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Geek Wins Copyright Lawsuit Against Corporation

Chris Gregerson writes "I work as a stock photographer/web developer. I saw a photo of mine used in Vilana Financial's full-page phone book ad. They wouldn't pay the licensing fee, and I wrote about it online (mirror). They sued me for defamation, producing a sales agreement signed by one ' Michael Zubitskiy' (who they said took the photo and sold the rights to them). I sued them for copyright infringement, and they added claims against me for trademark infringement, deceptive trade practices, and tortuous interference. There was a trial I'll long remember on the 5th of November, and the judge recently issued her verdict (PDF; mirror). She ruled Vilana Financial forged the sales agreement and willfully infringed my photos, and awarded me $19,462. All claims against me were denied. I represented myself during the litigation."

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  1. Re:so this is a good thing? by Dachannien · · Score: 5, Informative

    There are several differences here:

    1. The evil corporation started playing hardball first.
    2. The evil corporation was infringing the copyright for profit.
    3. The evil corporation provably distributed copies of the copyrighted material, and the number of copies could be proven as well.
    4. The evil corporation appears to have undertaken actions to attempt to defraud both the copyright holder and the court by giving testimony that a person sold the copyright to the corporation. (The ruling expresses doubt that this person even exists.)
    5. The damages claimed were not ridiculous given the extent of the violations, substantially less than the amount available at law.

  2. Re:THis is Good, but file sharing is Good too? by seanadams.com · · Score: 5, Informative

    Sometimes I struggle understanding double standards on /.

    There is more than one person posting here.

    So ripping off a stock photo is Bad and this guy did good by pushing for his rights and winning.

    Yes. And more importantly, without a lawyer. IMHO that alone makes it a respectable achievement, regardless of how I might feel about this particular law.

    But pirating copyright music via p2p etc is OK because nobody got hurt right.

    Not the same thing. This company used his images for profit. What would have been analogous to file sharing might be if the defendant had photocopied the image, put it on his wall for his own personal enjoyment, and given some copies to friends for the same purpose.

    Conversely, there does not seem to be much sympathy for people who _sell_ pirated songs or attempt to use them for some purely commercial purpose.

  3. Reply from author by Christoph · · Score: 5, Informative

    Someone used your artistic work without paying you...and you sued them? Interesting the first few posts are of support, wonder what the reponse would be if this story was about the RIAA.

    I personally make a distinction between non-commercial/educational use and use for commercial gain (the RIAA goes after private individuals who shared music with other private individuals non-commercially). I went after a business who had a budget for photography, but cut me out of the loop to increase their profit margin at my expense. I barely make a living at photography, which is why I was pro-se (I couldn't afford an attorney).

    I don't know what the fix is for the current copyright system, but anything that allows content creators to earn a living (without having to sue people) is fine with me.

  4. Re:THis is Good, but file sharing is Good too? by timmarhy · · Score: 4, Informative
    what are you brain dead? RTFA, he approched them about it and they produced a fraudulent reciept claiming ownership of his work.

    do you claim to own the rights to your briteny spears mp3 collection?

    they didn't just rip off his work, they claimed to own the copyright on it as well. your missing the point we make time and time on here again as well - RIAA aren't content creators like this guy, they are business thieves that take the majority of the artists cut and sue their fans.

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  5. Re:You're Very Lucky, and Don't Try That Again by Christoph · · Score: 5, Informative
    Reply from the author:

    You are extremely lucky that you had a judge who wanted to help you...you were a mega big - but lucky - fool this time

    The judge absolutely did NOT help me, and I didn't have the money for an attorney (they sued me for defamation first, so I had no choice but to litigate).

    I may have been lucky, but I prevailed because I worked hard for two years and persisted. I worked much harder that the other side, and knew more about this area of law than their attorneys.

    ...you are probably going to convince some other poor slob to try this...

    I will agree with you I should issue a disclaimer "Don't try this yourself". There are plenty of pro-se litigants who don't know what they are doing, a few who do, and I suspect that won't change.

  6. Re:Well done! by Christoph · · Score: 5, Informative
    Reply from the author:

    See the difference? The first one is a simple contract which people willfully enter into because the photographer has something the buyer wants.

    I'm not sure what the solution is, but in this case I initially sued in small claims court based on contract law and the "terms of use" of my website (which required a licensing fee for use of the photo). My claim was denied because it necessarily involved copyright, and I was told I had no recourse under contract law -- only copyright law, and only in federal court. I disagree, but there you have it.

    And yes, there is a flood of images nowadays, but the skyline in this case is from a vantage point other's haven't duplicated. I provide high-res files 24/7, technical support on image format and resolution, and I shoot on speculation -- I add as much value as I can and rely on copyright as little as possible.

  7. Re:Grab their profits too? by Christoph · · Score: 4, Informative

    NO. The case is over and the plaintiff won. He forfeited his claim for "derived profits" damages, possibly amounting to many thousands of dollars. In other words, he committed legal malpractice against himself. The guy should have looked harder for a lawyer willing to take the case, since attorney fees would have also been awarded in addition to the extra damages.

    FYI: I researched claims for infringer's profits in cases where a photo was used in an advertisement. I found that precedent requires the Plaintiff produce actual customers who testify the photo caused them (at least in part) to become customers (you can then get a small percentage of the infringer's profits). I thought that might incur more investigation and deposition costs than it was worth, and was otherwise busy trying to uncover the other side's fraud.

  8. Actually, it was $4,462 by NotQuiteReal · · Score: 4, Informative
    Plaintiff claims the fair market value for all uses of his Skyline photo by Defendants is $4,462.

    Sorry to read the details, but that's just the way I am. I don't get much done, but what I do do is quality work...

    Another $5,000 for removing the watermark (more than the value of the photo itself), plus another $10,000 in punitive damages, "just because the judge said so".

    Well, like Mom always said, it is better to fess up than face the wrath of being caught in a lie.

    The cover-up always costs more than the crime, it seems.

    And, yes, I did say "do do" on purpose.

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    1. Re:Actually, it was $4,462 by absoluteflatness · · Score: 4, Informative

      plus another $10,000 in punitive damages, "just because the judge said so". Actually the $10,000 was statutory damages, meaning that the amount was prescribed by law, in this case for "willful infringement."

      No punitive damages were awarded in this case, and it is a relatively rare occasion that they are ever awarded.

      You read all the details, but perhaps a shade too quickly...
  9. Re:Rock and Hard Place by Christoph · · Score: 4, Informative

    Two and a half years for the award he got is a Pyrrhic victory. So, the truth is, there aint no justice. And yes, that's depressing.

    I basically agree, but want to point out I also got to keep my grip webpage up (they sought an injunction against it). I shouldn't have had to go through this, but I figured the outcome might deter other bullies who want to silence online critics.