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Judge Rejects RIAA 'Making Available' Theory

NewYorkCountryLawyer writes "A federal judge in Connecticut has rejected the RIAA's 'making available' theory, which is the basis of all of the RIAA's peer to peer file sharing cases. In Atlantic v. Brennan, in a 9-page opinion [PDF], Judge Janet Bond Arterton held that the RIAA needs to prove 'actual distribution of copies', and cannot rely — as it was permitted to do in Capitol v. Thomas — upon the mere fact that there are song files on the defendant's computer and that they were 'available'. This is the same issue that has been the subject of extensive briefing in two contested cases in New York, Elektra v. Barker and Warner v. Cassin. Judge Arterton also held that the defendant had other possible defenses, such as the unconstitutionality of the RIAA's damages theory and possible copyright misuse flowing from the record companies' anticompetitive behavior."

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  1. Smart Judge by Killjoy_NL · · Score: 3, Insightful

    This really makes me smile, I'm not in the US, but I follow the news on these kinds of cases (mostly on Slashdot), if only this would get more mainstream coverage.

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    1. Re:Smart Judge by ivan256 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I would say, "How much more mainstream do you want than Slashdot?" After all, we are legion, we bring down servers across the internet merely by visiting them en masse. But then I look at Ron Paul's primary results and slink back to my basement.


      What makes you think anywhere close to a majority of us would vote for Ron Paul? Seems like a poor indication of how mainstream Slashdot is.
    2. Re:Smart Judge by Mr_eX9 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      'Real' news indeed.

      The standards of what's deemed newsworthy in the US are completely off. This case, a milestone in the RIAA's war against file-sharers, isn't newsworthy, but a pop-psychologist making blatantly erroneous statements out of ignorance is? Doesn't seem right.

    3. Re:Smart Judge by KublaiKhan · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Thus the scare quotes.

      It's mostly due to the perception of the american public that anything that doesn't directly affect them is not terribly important--hence, the American Idol winner, the winner of the presidential election, and the price of gas are 'news' while most legal decisions are merely trivia, unless you're a lawyer or directly involved as one of the parties.

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    4. Re:Smart Judge by rhizome · · Score: 4, Insightful

      if only this would get more mainstream coverage.

      The problem is that the plaintiffs in this case are the companies who would report on this development.

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    5. Re:Smart Judge by civilizedINTENSITY · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I don't know, "fiscally conservative and socially liberal" sounds like a democrat. Republicans are fiscally liberal and socially conservative...

    6. Re:Smart Judge by besalope · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I thought it was "If you're not liberal at 20, you have no heart. If you're not conservative at 40, you have no money."

    7. Re:Smart Judge by Kjella · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Though I think an intentional standard is somewhat high. I agree, this after all liability not guilt we're talking about. If I'm out playing soccer and accidentally break your window, surely I should pay for it even though it wasn't intentional? Perhaps doing it unwittingly (not understanding shared folders) or in good faith (misinformed about copyright status) should not cause liability, but surely some level of negligence or recklessness should suffice. It would follow the main line in tort law that you're liable for harm through negligence. Now there's the other matter that the claimed damages in this case are utterly insane, but that's a different discussion than the principle of them.
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  2. This is actually important... by Otter · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It's worth noting that unlike the typical NewYorkCountryLawyer story gloating about how the RIAA lost some motion on some case somewhere, this is a potentially major development.

  3. Re:kinda dumb by jtroutman · · Score: 5, Insightful

    No, putting up the sign makes it "intent to distribute", which is not the same as having files in a publicly available folder. This would be like making a copy of a song on a CD, leaving that CD on your porch and having someone come along and pick it up. Then getting sued for distribution.

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  4. Re:kinda dumb by CSMatt · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Not quite. I'm not a lawyer, but I'm guessing your tactic would constitute commercial infringement and thus fall into criminal law (or at the very least a different set of laws), whereas small-scale sharing without any money being made would fall under civil law, which is what this case is interpreting.

  5. Poll: What will the RIAA do now? by NewYorkCountryLawyer · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'm taking a poll. What do you think the RIAA will do now with this case?

    (a) Walk away.
    (b) Bury the judge in paper with a 'reconsideration' motion.
    (c) Ask Mr. Brennan to "settle".
    (d) Other.

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  6. Re:kinda dumb by amosh · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Correct, someone WOULD (sue, not arrest) you. Once you burn copies, you're violating copyright, even if you didn't sell any. This ruling doesn't apply to you at all; anyone who comes to your stand can see proof of your illegal activity.

    It does, however, apply to the defendant in this case. The reason the RIAA needed the "making available" theory is because they did not have any actual proof that their copyright had been violated. If I've got an MP3 in a public folder, what have I done? Have I illegally copied anything? Doesn't seem like it. Have I created a derivative work? Arguably, if I ripped the MP3, but maybe I downloaded it, and ripping a CD I own is almost certainly fair use anyway. Have I distributed it? Well, if the RIAA has proof of me distributing it to someone, they've got me. Obviously, in this case, they don't have proof of that. All they see is that MP3, so the "making available" theory says that, even in the absence of proof that their rights have been violated, they should be able to sue people.

    What happens if you leave a DVD on your front lawn, I come along with my laptop, rip and burn it? THAT is what this case is talking about. Have you broken the law by leaving that DVD on the lawn? I clearly have, by copying it... the RIAA thinks that you have, too. The judge, luckily, knows the law a little bit better. You have proof, or you have nothing.

  7. This may affect more than just the RIAA by Reziac · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This is a blow not only against the RIAA legal machine, but also against "thought crime" of all sorts (such as the argument that selling guns facilitates murder). So even as significant as it is by itself, it is a FAR more important decision than it appears.

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  8. Re:kinda dumb by Reziac · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Perzac'ly... whereas the RIAA was contending that "You have a vagina; therefore you are a hooker. Hands over your head!!"

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  9. Where to now for the RI, "after the Gold Rush"? by NonCow · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Forgetting the RIAA for a moment, step back a few light years and think about the long history of music. In terms of centuries, this desparate troughing that the RI (recording industry) has managed over the last half century is like a burst of activity in the gold fields, then something fundamental changes and for some reason the Gold Rush ends. If the RI wants to stand in the middle of the deserted gold fields screaming "poor me", then so be it, but if a fundamental aspect of "gold production" has changed, then, sorry, but it's *over*. You (RI, RIAA et al) have to look for something else to do "after the Gold Rush", rather than try to sue the consumers for not buying *your* Gold anymore.
    So what about claims that the MI (music industry) is dead by association? This seems to be another illogical grab for air in a bid by the RI to survive. The MI has existed since the first huddle of cavemen got together, beat drums in time, and feasted with a dancing tribe. Music and the MI preceeded the RI gold rush and did quite well about it thank you very much. Musicians are artists and art is most often a matter of the heart searching for and finding expression. Cash is all well and good, but at the end of the day if payment for music is extinguished altogether, music will prevail irrespective. Art is not extinguished by poverty, so neither is music. Only greedy troughing is extinguished by poverty.
    Here's a tip: I play in a band. We're not too bad at what we do. We put smiles on faces every show and most of the time we cover our up front costs. We never cover our "hours" put in, and we don't care, because it's Art, and we all have day jobs anyway. And guess what? There's no greedy corporation troughing from *our* Art.

  10. Re:So uhm... why is this different? by NewYorkCountryLawyer · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Hi Ray; You've mentioned a couple of times in this discussion that in the Capitol v. Thomas case the judge was wrong or made an error. That's strong wording, leaving me (a /.-er) with some questions. Is this "error" your opinion, or a legal fact? And if it's fact, is there an appeal in the works and/or can they appeal? Do judges bear any responsibility for making such errors? ...just trying to understand how something this basic can get two completely different rulings: it seems pretty clear to me that only one of the two rulings can be a correct interpretation of the law. I guess you could, theoretically, say it's an opinion, and that the RIAA has a different opinion. But the RIAA has no legal basis for its opinion, while I have a clearly worded statute, unanimity among all of the leading scholars, and decades of legal precedent to support my opinion. So when does expression of a solid opinion based on law become 'fact', and when does an opinion based on nothing become a 'lie'? You be the judge, but there is a point at which the expression of a frivolous opinion is so outlandish as to become false and misleading.

    Meanwhile, on the facts, the RIAA is always lying.

    As to how the judge made the error in the Thomas case, it's obvious:

    the RIAA lawyer was willing to say misleading things to the judge,

    Ms. Thomas's lawyer wasn't sufficientlyl prepared to rebut them, and

    the judge made the mistake of changing his mind in the heat of battle, instead of sticking with the decision he'd made beforehand when he and his staff had had enough time to do the requisite legal reading.
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  11. Re:So uhm... why is this different? by NewYorkCountryLawyer · · Score: 5, Insightful

    So are judges in any way responsible this kind of error? Of course the judge is responsible. Judge Arterton had no help from the defendant's side at all; the defendant probably never even got the summons and complaint. But she took it upon herself to do the research, instead of just rubber stamping the RIAA's phony presentation.

    And isn't lying something lawyers should get disbarred for? Yes.
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  12. Re:Spread those mod points wider! by NewYorkCountryLawyer · · Score: 3, Insightful

    even the ones which are just single-word answers benefit from his experience I'm happy for my comments to be modded up or down, or neither, based entirely on their substance. I don't want points for my experience or reputation. I don't think I should be punished for brevity any more than I should be rewarded for verbosity. I speak to the Slashdot community pretty much the way I speak to the judges. I assume (a) you are busy people with no time to waste and (b) if I don't give you a straight answer to a simple question, you will assume -- correctly -- that I'm trying to conceal rather than reveal the truth. (Also, I'm kind of busy these days, having an army of clones to fight in court.)
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  13. Re:What about Obama? by yfarren · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Posts like the parent REALLY piss me off. Anyone who moderated him anything other than "TROLL" should... consider themselves.

    The focus of the poster is to say "you dont matter". Not only that, but to say thathe is being RATIONAL in making that claim. An individual absolutely does matter in National Politics. Anyone who says otherwise needs to learn some math, and some basic economic theory.

    Basically, the value of your vote is the total value of all votes, divided by the total number of all votes.

    So to say your vote has a tiny Percentage of effect, so small as to be ALMOST un-noticable, is true. There are, in a national election, some 90 million voters. So your individual vote has a worth (and it actually is a little different than this because it does vary state by state) of ~ 1/90,000,000.

    However, the Federal Budget is roughly (depending on what you take into account) some 3 TRILLION dollars. How that money get allocated is decided by the people you do or don't vote for.

    So, just a rough number to think about, your vote is worth 3 TRILLION/ 90 MILLION. Roughly 33 THOUSAND dollars.

    Now, you can argue about different things in that number, and whittle it up and down depending on how you look at it (entitlements, not being able to choose a canidate who exactly matches you, etc.). But to claim that it is RATIONAL to say your vote is worthless is just stupid.

    Anyone making such a claim is being stupid (or simply trying to discourage voters, which the republican party does a lot of, actually), and certainly shouldn't be modded anything other than troll (the effect of people encouraging others not to vote is that there is a disproportinate representation of wealthy people voting. The wealthy, tend to believe that their vote counts. And they turn out. And Vote. And it does. This is one of the reasons that while the country tends to identify as Democrats (by close to a 60/40 margin) The VOTING population breaks about even. This is one of the reasons that we have an embargo on Cuba (they Cuban Ex-Pats almost all vote).