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EU Fines Microsoft $1.3 Billion

jd writes "The EU has slammed Microsoft with a fine of €899 million ($1.337 billion at current exchange rates) for perpetuating violations of the 2004 antitrust ruling.The fine is the sum of daily fines running from June 21, 2006 to October 21, 2007. It is the first company ever to be fined for non-compliance. The amazing thing is that the EU now expects Microsoft to comply and 'close a dark chapter' in their history. The EU has opened new investigations into Microsoft's practices and gave a lukewarm response to the company's turning over yet another new leaf last week."

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  1. Re:1.3 billion by mallardtheduck · · Score: 5, Informative

    As I understand it, fines issued by the EU go to EU member states.

    I also don't understand why the size of the fine "clearly" indicates that people are lining their pockets. This is not the largest fine ever issued. (ExxonMobil was fined $5 Billion for Exxon Valdez, later halved, but so far not paid.)

  2. Re:And what if not? by asuffield · · Score: 5, Informative

    The EU will simply take the money by force. Microsoft has assets moving through the EU, in the form of their revenue from sales of their products. The EU will walk in to the retail outlets and take that revenue until they have their money - the money from every copy of Windows and every xbox sold will go directly to the EU, and Microsoft will never receive it. This is the standard method that courts use for extracting fines from recalcitrant corporations - you don't ban their products, you just take their products.

    And they'll keep doing it for as long as it takes.

  3. Re:Well... by Teun · · Score: 5, Informative

    The dollar doesnt fluctuate, it drops.
    Today it hit the lowest ever value against the Euro.

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  4. Re:Even as an MS fan, good... by CaptainZapp · · Score: 5, Informative

    Now, I'd like to see the EU start to use the same stick on large companies that also feel that they are above the law

    They do again and again. It's mostly, but not always price fixing. Other examples include Volkswagen that threatened their Italian dealers to pull the dealership when they sold to customers not living in Italy.

    Fines are usually very hefty and companies usually comply. Micropsoft risks to fall really flat on their face if they try their usual stints here.

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  5. Re:Unfair? by apathy+maybe · · Score: 4, Informative

    Repeat after me,
    "You are not allowed to use a monopoly in one area to try and leverage an advantage in another area."

    That is why different rules apply to Apple and various X/GNU/Linux distributors as apply to Microsoft.

    Microsoft has an effective monopoly in the desktop OS market, and by bundling Windows Media Player (and MSIE for that matter...), they are creating a situation where people might use it to create WMP files (especially as that is the default).

    You might say that it isn't a big deal if people rip CDs to WMP, but then they want to play them on a portable media player, they have to make sure that it plays them. The company that makes the media player is giving a kick-back (patent licencing?) to Microsoft, and thus Microsoft is leveraging its monopoly in the desktop OS to give it an advantage in another market.

    That is just one example of why they shouldn't be allowed to do it, but there are plenty of others.

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  6. Re:Even as an MS fan, good... by K-Mile · · Score: 5, Informative
  7. Re:1.3 billion by Teun · · Score: 5, Informative

    I'm curious as to where that money is going to be going. 1.3 billion? Clearly some people are taking advantage of the situation in an effort to line their own pockets. A stupid remark, you should be whipped.

    From the EU website:
    The penalty payment is paid into the EU Budget. It does not increase the budget, but reduces the contribution from Member States and so from taxpayers.
    So in deference to us paying the Microsoft tax Microsoft is paying (a small part of) EU tax, brilliant :)
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  8. Abusive modding by Dilaudid · · Score: 4, Informative

    Why was above comment modded flamebait? Here's a graph of the value of the dollar in euros. Looks like it's dropping to me. http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?s=USDEUR=X&t=5y.

  9. Re:Unfair? by peragrin · · Score: 4, Informative

    MSFT has complied with that part of the order. It took MSFT 3 years to comply with other parts Like licensing CIFS/SMB to third parties without the cost overhead. That is how SAMBA got the file formats.

    Because MSFT dragged their feet in complying they were fined some 2 million euros a day. This is that fine. this has nothing to do with windows media player as MSFT already took care of that part by releasing a media player free version of windows.

    Also as a side effect this is 1.3 billion less dollars that MSFT will have to buy Yahoo with. Some 6% of the cash MSFT has on hand.

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  10. Re:Well... by alexhs · · Score: 5, Informative

    Nitpicking with an AC...

    Euro an ECU are not the same thing, but when the second replaced the first one, its value was chosen to be initially the same. Look for the ECU and Euro wikipedia pages.

    Also coins and notes are available only since 2002.

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