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Sun Hires Two Key Python Developers

Posted by kdawson on from the money-where-their-mouth-is dept.

sspringer writes to let us know about Sun's continuing push to support scripting languages other than Java on its Java virtual machine. Sun just hired two key Python developers: Ted Leung, a long-time Python developer at the Open Source Applications Foundation, and Frank Wierzbicki, who is lead implementer of the Jython project. They will both work on Jython, which enables Python to run on the JVM. Last month Sun's CEO said the company wants to "take the J off the JVM and just make it a VM."

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  1. Re:To the fools thinking Java didn't make it... by SanityInAnarchy · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    And what about Java-the-VM? Best thing that happened to computing these last 20 years...

    Without checking, I'll bet you $10 that Sun didn't invent the concept of a VM.

    Not a single buffer overflow in the VM since it exist

    You don't need a VM to do that.

    I mean, really, what does your language offer you? Can I easily turn on and off remote profiling of running apps written in your favorite language? Really? How easy is it?

    Depends on the app, but I think Ruby Waves will do that and more.

    Can you run "eval" in Java? Can you open existing classes and monkeypatch them, tweak them to your bidding?

    So back to the point: there are still fools today that think that 'Java is dead', or that 'Java didn't cut it' or, pathetically, that 'Java is slow' (these trolls needs to be hit with a cluestick)...

    Actually, I think that .NET is a better Java than Java. And I hate Microsoft, too, but those are the facts.

    Well, I've got some news for you: <inane rambling list of things Java is run in>

    By that logic, C must be the fucking grail!

    you cannot buy a Blu-Ray player without having a JVM (it's part of the Blu-Ray specs)

    Part of a certain version of the specs. I'm fairly sure there were early players which did not have a JVM. The one that Blu-Ray does have is not anywhere near a full-fledged desktop JVM.

    Talking of GMail, what does Google think of Java? That it's so convenient they want you to use that instead of messing with ugly EcmaScript for AJAXy-like development

    Wow. Between EcmaScript and Java, I'll take EcmaScript every time. The fact that you choose Java tells me that either you are a fan of static typing, or you have no idea just how powerful EcmaScript is. (I'll give you a hint -- the guy who invented it wanted to do a LISP interpreter, but his boss told him to write some C-like script. So he wrote a LISP interpreter with C-like syntax -- and that is EcmaScript.)

    I should also mention: I worked on HD-DVD. Anyone I talked to about it who had worked with both said they preferred working with HD-DVD. I wonder why that is?

    I will say that aside from the storage/bandwidth issue, HD-DVD was ahead technologically for most of the race. (That said, as a user, I mostly just want to watch the movie, so more storage and bandwidth makes a lot of sense.)

    GWT anyone?

    Yeah, I hate it.

    GWT depends on browser identification. It actually serves you an entirely different script based on which browser you're running. If it doesn't recognize your browser, it serves you a non-AJAX version.

    In my mind, that is broken by design, yet many people consider it to be a feature. And because of this broken design, I have to keep a Firefox window open for no reason other than to run my Google Apps.

    most sites you visit

    Excuse me? Are you kidding me?

    The top two languages, according to a casual Google search, are PHP and ASP, in that order. So Java is at best third, unless we can find some actual statistics to pin it on. The only sites I ever notice a JSP page on are various corporate websites which are basically HTML brochures. The only site I actually use that I know is running Java is Gmail.

    Now, if you're wondering why you got modded down, let me take you on a brief tour:

    Re-read this. A thousand times: no buffer-overflows.

    Quoted in a context where it's actually inaccurate, yet you're arrogant enough to insult our intelligence.

    You can install a whole f*cking JVM without needing to be root... Wild.

    Well, f*cking amazing! I can do that with really any language

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