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Controversial Section of PRO-IP Act Cut

I Don't Believe in Imaginary Property writes "Rep. Berman (D-CA) has removed the controversial section 104 from his PRO-IP Act. That section would have multiplied the already excessive statutory damages for infringement in the case of compilations, making the damages for infringing upon the copyrights of a single average CD rise into the millions of dollars. This change came after proponents of the amendment were unable to cite even one case where the statutory damages recovered were insufficient. But don't let the article fool you into thinking that the PRO-IP Act is no longer controversial now that this one section is gone, the act still creates copyright cops who are authorized to seize people's computers."

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  1. Re:Time for the old Dead Man's Switch by palegray.net · · Score: 2, Informative

    You could always TrueCrypt encrypt the contents of your drive to guard against seizure efforts without hampering your own use of the system.

  2. Re:Time for the old Dead Man's Switch by QuantumG · · Score: 2, Informative

    When it comes to complying with a court order to turn over computer files, turning over encrypted computer files is not complying with the order. It's really not that hard.

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  3. Re:Time for the old Dead Man's Switch by hedwards · · Score: 5, Informative

    Passwords, pass phrases and keys are, for better or worse, considered to be protected by the 5th amendment.

    Unless law enforcement or the copyright holder can crack the security on it, there is no way that they can compel a person to hand over the files at this point.

  4. Re:Time for the old Dead Man's Switch by QuantumG · · Score: 3, Informative
    Do you have any case law to back this up or are you just talking out of your ass? Seriously, the courts see it no different to requiring you to hand over the keys to a filing cabinet. You're free to refuse, at which time you are in contempt of court and will be spending the remainder of your life in jail, except for every 30 days, when you will be brought before the judge to be asked if you are now ready to hand over the keys.

    or the copyright holder Huh? What do you think we're talking about?

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  5. Re:Time for the old Dead Man's Switch by Cairnarvon · · Score: 4, Informative

    http://www.news.com/8301-13578_3-9834495-38.html

    So yes, case law does back it up.

  6. Re:Good example. by calebt3 · · Score: 2, Informative

    Rep. Berman (D-CA) has removed the controversial section 104 from his PRO-IP Act.
  7. Re:War on Copyright by wk633 · · Score: 3, Informative

    1% of adults, not of the general population. Not that it affect your point.

  8. Civil Asset Forfeiture by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Informative

    From my understanding, the PRO-IP Act wants to not only create a whole arm of the government to do the RIAA/MPAA's dirty work, but they want to expand civil asset forfeiture to copyright enforcement as well.
              With Civil Asset Forfeiture, your property, NOT YOU, is accused of a crime. Since your property is not a person, it has no rights. Thus you have to prove your property's innocence. It can be a very long, drawn out, and expensive process, and even if you win, you probably still won't get your property back. Civil Asset Forfeiture is currently used to take property in "drug" cases. (Or when the drug enforcement agencies need more money. You see, they are funded by what they take.) If you want something to make your blood boil, just google Civil Asset Forfeiture for all the details. You can read about case after case of abuse of these laws. Basically it boils down to this: You have property, cash, a ranch, a nice car, whatever. The police arrest you on a bogus charge and let you go 24-48 hours later. They keep your property. It just must have been involved with drugs.
              Now, they want to take our computers, and expand this system to copyright infringement. My guess is that somewhere between 95% - 99% of computers have at least one copyright infringing file on them. This means that they can be seized. Translation: If this passes, the copyright cops can take any computer, anywhere, anytime. One might not have an infringing video or music file on the system, but what about an email? a screen background? etc. The owner might not face any convictions, or even have charges brought against them, but they sure won't be getting their computer back. This could also be expanded to just about any storage medium -- a usb flash drive, an iPod, a hard drive, a cd, anything. It would be a great way for law enforcement to search electronic media, or computer systems. Instead of searching someone's computer, just accuse it of a copyright violation, and seize it. Then they can search it all they want, and when they're done, sell it off to make a little cash.
              Now consider what data even simple, non computer savvy people have on their computers. What does that say about their lives? Could it cost them their job or their livelihood? For example, an author is working on his next book. His computer is seized on some bullshit copyright charge, and he never gets it back. Like many people, he did not back up the system, or the cops took his backups too. No more book.
              We all know what a success the War On Drugs has been, so expanding it to the War on Copyright Infringement must be a great idea.

  9. Re:Time for the old Dead Man's Switch by Wordplay · · Score: 2, Informative

    Passkey-as-testimony was covered a couple of parents up; the precedent's been set. This subthread is from QuantumG suggesting that the same protection doesn't apply to civil court.

    Re: DNA vs. passkey, the generality seems to be that in security terms, "what-you-are" or "what-you-have" factors are evidence (they can be taken with a warrant) but a "what-you-know" factor is testimony and cannot be forcibly extracted from you (Fifth Amendment).

  10. Re:Time for the old Dead Man's Switch by vuffi_raa · · Score: 2, Informative

    The main point of TrueCrypt (as I understand it) being that it's impossible for the prosecution to provide any evidence that what they see isn't everything you've got. No evidence you aren't complying = no leg to stand on. providing encrypted files is compliance so long as you have the decryption key provided as well or can show an attempt to provide the key- the fact of the matter though is that if all of your data is encrypted the cost for discovery in a civil case would be so high that it would be ridiculous to pay for it (that would be the burden of the litigant and not the defense- defense would only have to provide the data post discovery in compliance with the submission by the litigant (or opposing counsel) so you could theoretically turn over the drive and it would be up to whoever is suing you to decrypt the drive- in the realm of e-discovery there are only certain vendors that handle encryption and that would be in the forensics and not in your standard lit support vendor/service beaurau, so the cost would be generally high per piece of media. Following this the review process would be pretty high as well considering the price point that we charge at our company usually comes out to $1-3 per doc give or take (depending on the client, population, etc.) after all is said and done and that is 1/2 to 1/3 of the standard rate for edoc reviewing at most companies (we have a damn fine stat on recall and precision as well) so imagine that you have a couple of terabytes of data at home which isn't hard considering you can drop a terabyte in your desktop nowadays, the cost that would be incurred during the discovery process alone would be pretty high for say, the RIAA to sue someone who not only will never have the $ to pay on a suit, but also may or may not even have any files that are incriminating. When it comes down to it the economics on consumer IP cases make zero sense, unlike corporate B2B, where you are actually looking to recover losses on a product base and are assured a return on a ruling or settlement.