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Pentagon Hid Magnitude of Data Loss From Recent Breach

blueton tips us to a brief story about recent revelations from the Pentagon which indicate that the attack on their computer network in June 2007 was more serious than they originally claimed. A DoD official recently remarked that the hackers were able to obtain an "amazing amount" of data. We previously discussed rumors that the Chinese People's Liberation Army was behind the attack. CNN has an article about Chinese hackers who claim to have successfully stolen information from the Pentagon. Quoting Ars Technica: "The intrusion was first detected during an IT restructuring that was underway at the time. By the time it was detected, malicious code had been in the system for at least two months, and was propagating via a known Windows exploit. The bug spread itself by e-mailing malicious payloads from one system on the network to another."

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  1. Not stolen! by Subm · · Score: 5, Funny

    This is Slashdot. The data wasn't stolen. It was copyright infringed.

    When will everyone learn the difference?

    The solution is obvious: sic the Mafiaa on the attackers.

  2. army net security is indeed ridiculous. by r00t · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Sysadmins must apply patches IF AND ONLY IF they are army approved.

    Sounds decent so far, hmmm?

    The army has some committee that regularly decides which patches to approve.

    Still not too bad, hmmm?

    The committee approves patches for things that are being actively exploited.

    Ponder that one for a moment. It means that every security hole will be exploitable on the army networks. Every security hole gets a chance, since "not exploited yet" means "not a problem".

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    Me Chinese,
    Make Cheap Shoe
    Take You Secrets
    Laugh At You

    Me Chinese
    Let You Think
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    Bring You Drink

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  4. Additional information by Profane+MuthaFucka · · Score: 5, Funny

    It's not the Chinese People's Liberation Army. It's the People's Liberation Army of China. The Chinese People's Liberation Army is a bunch of wankers.

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    Fascism trolls keeping me up every night. When I starts a preachin', he HITS ME WITH HIS REICH!
  5. M$CROSOFT SUCKS by EdIII · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Here's the thing.... even putting the hyperbole in the title aside, Microsoft really does suck , and at so many many many levels.

    I am in my 30's and I have been using Microsoft all my life, since I was about 9 years old (I started using computers when I was 7). I build their machines, I repair them, I even program them too. I also attempt to provide security on them as well. So I have been involved with Microsoft about as long as some people have been married. So I believe that I am entitled to get drunk occasionally and rant about the "Ex" for awhile. I earned it, so to speak.

    Have people noticed that Microsoft is like a little sickly Boy in the Bubble? You have to protect him at all times.

    You have to put up a router and a firewall at a minimum to protect your little herd of MS machines. Keep them safe from the big bad wolves and all that. Of course, these days you also need to have some really good routers with IDS, gateway anti-virus, etc. to do it even better. But that is not enough. Those little guys can get into trouble just "looking" out on the Internet. So you need anti-virus, anti-phishing, anti-spam, anti-spyware, anti-malware, etc.

    When the Internet first started coming out, I remember telling people it would be cold day in hell before I hook my computer up to an unknown network in which anybody could send packets to my machines. Obviously, I had to get over that "shyness" and learn to adapt or die. However, since then, I have had to invest enormous amounts of time and energy and cold hard cash into preventative measures to keep my own Microsoft OS's from being hijacked by any asshat on the Internet.

    There is billions being made, that's with a B folks, in 3rd party solution providers that specialize in providing the security solutions just to cover the fact that Microsoft can't code security if their "life depended on it".

    Now that the Pentagon is using them, it would seem that in a roundabout way, Microsoft's life IS depending on it.

    We can bash Microsoft all we want, and talk and talk and talk about it. What it really comes down to though, is that Microsoft just may not be a secure enough environment for our National Security apparatuses to be using. If we have to work that hard at it, with that many vendors, and have that many points in which someone can screw up and leave machines vulnerable, then we need another solution .

    On another side note, where the HELL are those super secured networks I keep hearing about that my tax dollars paid for huh? Apparently, the Pentagon's networks must be in really bad shape too. You would think that trillions of dollars could provide some pretty secure networks, communication infrastructures, and operating systems.

    All that "bashing" on my part aside, Microsoft may make a decent OS for the little guy. The mom and pops at home with their families. Let's face it, it is easier to use then Linux, otherwise Linux would have a greater market share. Let's just not use it inside the Pentagon OK?

  6. Hitting us where we're centralized by NetSettler · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It reminds me of the Doonesbury comic years ago about Reagan's SDI shield, that was going to protect us from Soviet missiles by a single, always-perfect shield of protective devices. The comic was drawn in crayon, as I recall, with the voice of a little girl explaining that the world was beautiful because SDI was protecting us. Then in the last frame it said something abrupt to the effect of "Oops, one got through. Bye."

    What makes this story so scary isn't just that something got broken into, it's the thing in the back of all our minds that says "my goodness, is that the place where All Knowledge of Everything is centrally stored?" Bad enough when someone breaks into your computer and gets all your bank accounts or passwords, but when someone breaks into The Government and gets all knowledge of launch codes, defensive systems, registries of guns in the US, files on who sympathizes with who, files on who calls who, etc. ... well, that info collected with the intent of defending us might suddenly be a liability.

    That's why things like the telecom phone tapping, national IDs, etc. are so troublesome. The mere centralization of information at all for any reason is a risk that the Bush administration has been ignoring, working instead (for all we know, none of this being auditable) to pile all of everything in one fragile place. The founding fathers kept trying to decentralize things and minimize what in modern computer terms we'd call "single point of failure". They distributed power in a way that made it hard to just break in and take control, right down to making sure there was not a single head of government. It's too bad that in all the puffery we hear spouted about Constitutional original intent, the modern Republican leaders don't show more care about that kind of original intent.

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    Kent M Pitman
    Philosopher, Technologist, Writer

  7. Re:Windows strikes again. by SethJohnson · · Score: 5, Interesting



    2) Decent firewall alerting you to connections to chinese IP space,

    Duhh.. these guys weren't amateurs. They wouldn't have been communicating directly with the compromised hosts. There'd be like three or more hops of compromised boxes between them and the Pentagon. Not to mention that the intrusion might have originally been thanks to a viral botnet where the controllers recognized some interesting IPs within their herd. Then used the command-control structure to issue specific commands to those boxes to further infiltrate the Pentagon. Probably was always outbound connections uploading data and grabbing new marching orders (encrypted in both cases).

    Seth

  8. Re:Safe? by thatskinnyguy · · Score: 5, Insightful

    We are supposed to protect ourselves except we all kinda forget that part of the Constitution.

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    The game.
  9. Re:Windows strikes again. by Hemogoblin · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Speaking as someone who has worked as an Immigration Officer with the Canada Border Services Agency, I can say that our immigration laws are quite fine, thank you. In addition, our antiterrorism laws are quite robust, and I would argue that the United States' laws are needlessly draconian. Thank you for your time.