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Ads With Your Name On Them

eldavojohn writes "The NYTimes is running an interesting blog piece on the answers Microsoft, AOL, Yahoo, & Google gave to the question: Can they show you an ad with your name on it? The results: 'Microsoft says it could use only a person's first name [which it doesn't consider personal information]. AOL and Yahoo could use a full name but only on their sites, not the other sites on which they place ads. Google isn't sure; it probably could, but it doesn't know the names of most of its users.' Now whether or not they would use this information is a different story. AOL has no plans to, Yahoo is open to it, and Microsoft has implemented a technological barrier preventing it (despite behavioral and demographic data being served to the ad companies). Although Google might use name information at some point, they don't now do so; nor do they use behavioral or demographic data."

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  1. Sounds scary by flaming+error · · Score: 5, Insightful

    But the real problem isn't that they can *show* who you are, it's that they *know* who you are.

    Showing it would just be disclosing our already existing vulnerability.

    1. Re:Sounds scary by FLEB · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Bingo. Although I don't think there's a solidly backable one-way-or-the-other legal or ethical stance on this (realistically, it's not much of a "privacy violation" at all), I just can't see it being an effective method of advertising. It just creeps a person out when someone they don't know jumps in and starts acting like an old chum, especially when it's clear that they know nothing about you except your name off a list.

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  2. Coming Soon ... by daveime · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Well now that the EU have approved the Google / Doubleclick merger, expect ads VERY soon with your name on them ... and possibly a lot more.

    1. Re:Coming Soon ... by daveime · · Score: 1, Insightful

      I've gone from 0 offtopic to -1 troll in a matter of minutes ?

      I know I'm new here, but can someone explain how a comment about the Google / Doubleclick merger could possibly be offtopic, when the topic is about whether Google (and others) would serve ads with your personal details on them ???

      As for troll ? Erm, well ...

      Do you just get a handful of mod points and play pin the tail on the donkey with them ?

  3. Cheers by TheMeuge · · Score: 3, Insightful

    A. Let's go ahead and tag it "sometimesyouwanttogowhereeverybodyknowsyourname"

    B. Google certainly can show me my name in the ad. Certainly it knows which gmail account I use, and the name on that. It also knows what billing name I used for my Google Checkout purchases. Similar ways of identifying users apply to the other companies. What worries me, is seeing my name on an ad served by somebody I did NOT share my name with.

  4. Screw them... by apathy+maybe · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I don't care if they have ads (that I can't see) addressing me with names that aren't mine.

    I do however, care about those people who are less technologically capable, and less privacy conscious being tricked into clicking on ads because they think it is from a friend or whatever (when reading emails especially).

    Just because I rarely give out my real name on the web, doesn't mean that there are people who use their real name for everything and don't mind giving it to everyone.

    And that's the problem. This won't matter for most people on Slashdot, but it will matter to at least minority of people. And the people with knowledge should promote that knowledge, we should fight against this sort of thing.

    (Actually, I suspect that there are a number of people who would get rather angry being addressed by their name when looking at ads. Imagine your TV saying "Hey Joe, I've got a great new beer for you to taste!" or "Hey Joe, I've got a great new computer bit", most people I know would get angry at that. Meh, now I'm starting to ramble.)

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  5. Re:Mobil card ms are NUTS... by Your.Master · · Score: 5, Insightful

    How can ms claim a person's GIVEN name is NOT personal? Sound's like they've got too much duroquinone in their brains. The NERVE of them to assert a thing. This is the problem with secondary sources, they make the slightest change in wording and people interpret it so differently.

    Microsoft does not say that your first name is not personal information. Their policy prevents the spread of personally identifiable information, which they define as information which could be used by theirselves or others to connect data (including your first name) to you, the individual. Now, using your first name might be a little dodgy in that you might be the only person in the world with the same first name. But generally speaking, you cannot match a person to their data with only first names.
  6. Re:Mobil card ms are NUTS... by Mox-Dragon · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Women or anyone who might be targets of stalkers should especially take great offence to this. Why? Well, some asshole/creeper could follow a mark to their car, then note the license plate. Then the creeper can proceed to obtain more information by following the person and getting their address. Next, rummage any accessible mailbox or driveway mail or deliveries and note th presumed name.

    Yeah, but it seems like this is the sort of thing that won't be influenced by somebody hearing your last name in a store. I mean, if they're going through your trash, they're probably going to find some piece of mail with your last name on it.

    Safeway could someday become "Dangerway".

    Really?

    So, now, i use a valid Safeway card with a borked name, and I ONLY use cash so as to not commingle my real and shopper names.

    Really?

  7. Re:Mobil card ms are NUTS... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful
    the same way that you using david in your /. does not reveal anything about you. and that is because no one can say "david" ALWAYS means this particular person.

    also your claim that safeway could be "dangerway" is entirely unfounded.

    rummage any accessible mailbox or driveway mail or deliveries and note th presumed name. what did safeway give out that the asshole/creeper could not get from the name on the mail? and he doesn't even have to make any serious effort for rummaging.

    liking to be anonymous while shopping, I cannot argue on that since it is a personal preference. other than that your comment is full of FUD.
  8. Re:Mobil card ms are NUTS... by xdotx · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Merriam-Webster defines Paranoia as: "a tendency on the part of an individual or group toward excessive or irrational suspiciousness and distrustfulness of others."

    Maybe give that some thought?

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  9. Re:Mobil card ms are NUTS... by tupshin · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Speaking as (probably) the only person in the world to have my first name, I am compelled to consider it personally identifiable information.

    -Tupshin

  10. The Evil Scale as an economic indicator by martin-boundary · · Score: 2, Insightful
    It's interesting that the Evil Scale on this issue is now

    1 (Least Evil): Microsoft (implements tech. barriers)
    2 : AOL (no barriers, no plans)
    3 : Yahoo (no barriers, shows interest)
    4 (Most Evil): Google (no barriers, no comment, lots of extra available data)

    If we assume that companies think Evil is a negative for business, this suggests that Google and Yahoo are getting complacent, while Microsoft is working pretty hard again to woo customers and improve its market position.

  11. Re:Mobil card ms are NUTS... by McFadden · · Score: 2, Insightful

    After a shopper's membership card is scanned, and the goods are bagged and the customer is ready to go, the drone cashier will usually pipe (pretty much for ALL in earshot to hear), "Thank you, Mr/Mrs/Ms (last name)". THAT bugs the SHIT out of me. So, I would interrupt them -- as they say "Thank you" -- with "NO LAST NAME/DON'T SAY MY LAST NAME."

    Safeway could someday become "Dangerway"....
    Overreaction much? One wonders how you manage to step outside your house each day without the protection of your tinfoil hat. Personally I don't give a fuck if someone addresses me by my first, last or any name. Why? Because it's my name. That's why I have it.

    There's a lot to be said for just living life without the need to have a panic attack about every possible bad thing that could (but almost certainly won't) happen to you. Getting riled up about people using my name, isn't something I feel the need to raise my blood pressure over. Good luck with your next medical.
  12. Re:Mobil card ms are NUTS... by 1u3hr · · Score: 2, Insightful
    the creeper might, after following the mark,.... Blurting names also confirms the name of a mark who conscientiously and carefully LIED to her follower about her name, only to be f*scked over by her emerging stalker.... THAT's why it matters. We don't have the luxury of knowing who is our freak and our stalker.

    If you actually did have a stalker, they will find your name out pretty quickly.

    Have you ever had a stalker? Do you know anyone who did? I was under the impression that non-celebrities were stalked by jilted boyfriends, ex-husbands, and such; people who already know everything they need to know about you. The deranged psycho who comes out of nowhere and targets you "just because" no doubt exists, but like terrorists, the number of people affected is much, much smaller than the number who walk around in a state of fear due to imagining they are a target.

    Apologies if you actually have been stalked by an anonymous psycho.