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High Expectations For Google Android

Several readers have pointed out recent articles discussing the development and features of Google Android. Silicon.com has what is essentially an FAQ for Android, providing the relevant basic information about it. Apcmag questions whether Google can meet the high expectations most enthusiasts have for the platform, and The Register discusses Google's claims that it will be competitive with Apple and worth the wait. We discussed a preview of Android last month. Quoting The Register: "Google mobile platforms guru Rich Miner acknowledged that for the moment, Apple may have an advantage. After all, Steve Jobs and company have actually shipped a piece of hardware, while the first Android handset won't arrive until 'the second half of this year.' But Miner also told the crowd that Stevo hasn't treated developers as well as they deserve. 'There are certain apps you just can't build on an iPhone,' Miner said. 'Apple doesn't let you do multiprocessing. They don't let your app run in the background after you switch to another. And they don't let you have interpretive language in your iPhone apps.'"

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  1. Re:First post? by MightyMartian · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Competition will be good. Perhaps the Feature Nazis at Apple will be forced to loosen the strings a little bit.

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  2. My take. sure to be modded down by The+End+Of+Days · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Using my many years of reading Slashdot as a gauge, the enthusiasm for the Android handsets, and lack thereof for the iPhone, that are evident on this site lead me to believe that Android will flop and the iPhone will take over the mobile market. Large-scale market trends always seem to defy the common wisdom brokered by the denizens of this site.

    Of course, I'm not making a prediction. Just a hunch, based on self-selected observations. My take means nothing, ultimately.

  3. Re:First post? by rdhatch · · Score: 5, Interesting

    That would be wonderful. You are right...competition is good. Along those lines...it is interesting that in many ways OS X (and the iPhone for that matter) have made it to the desktop and consumer market and become extraordinarily successful by utilizing open source software that was originally designed to run with Linux and other unices to compete with Microsoft all while the powers that be at Apple have been VERY strict about what goes in to the OS, what makes it to prime-time, etc. In my opinion, Apple has done a great job at both releasing very competitive products (with open source underpinnings and features) and maintaining a balance between the potentially chaotic open-source world and the "real" consumer world in their products...something that Linux unfortunately has failed to do thus far.

  4. Re:They're really stretching by PotatoFarmer · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It's interesting to note that iPhone doesn't allow interpreted code... while Android doesn't allow native code. Which one of these is more "open"?

    From what I've seen so far, the limitations in Android are mostly technical, whereas the limitations in the iPhone SDK are mostly business. From that perspective I'd say that Android probably has a higher ceiling.

  5. Re:First post? by 2nd+Post! · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Apple has released more features and functions to developers and consumers than Google has, courtesy of a shipping iPhone in four countries vs none, a shipping SDK, and multiple firmware revisions. I would be hesitant to proclaim Android capable of grinding Apple into the dirt until after an Android phone exists.

    So Apple has three things working in their favor:
    1) Resources
    2) Developers
    3) Customers

    Google, thus far, only has hype :)

  6. Re:They're really stretching by sogoodsofarsowhat · · Score: 5, Informative

    Why do people keep mis-stating the facts.... The SDK from Apple default is no-background running a simple flag set allows you too.... If your gonna spew hate, at least get your facts straight... Oh wait this is /.

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  7. Re:First post? by KH2002 · · Score: 5, Informative
    Yes, the new iPhone SDK reveals some really critical shortcomins vs. Android.

    The lack of background processing in 3rd party iPhone apps will hamstring whole classes of new apps. The best summation of iPhone SDK problems I've seen is here:

    Apple's iPhone SDK Prohibits Real Mobile Innovation

  8. Re:First post? by -noefordeg- · · Score: 5, Informative

    I've got a 16GB iPhone right here... And I want to beat the crap out of Steve/Apple.

    At work earlier today this happened:
    Usually I bring along my iPod. At the office I plug it into the USB of my MacBook and just use iTunes to play music from the iPod. Well, today I brought along the iPone (with all my music on) and what happened? You can't play music from the iPhone! I can't do anything in iTunes, transfer movies/music from my office MacBook.
    As I was about to go home, I had to bring with me some rather large files. Usually I just use Finder and drag the files over to the iPod. Does my iPhone show up in Finder? No!
    Is my iPhone broken?!

    It's not a small computer. It's a pretty black box, with very limited use. Yes. It has a great interface and good screen. But there the good things seem to end.

    "As a computer, it can also browse the web, take notes, watch videos, listen to music, check your stocks, check the weather, take pictures, and email."
    What videos? Only those you get from YouTube or the ones you transfer from the one special chosen Mac?
    What if you want to transfer videos/music from another computer?
    Can it watch my chosen stocks and notify me when they hit a certain limit? Can the stock-program do this in the background?
    Where is MSN for iPhone?
    Browse the web with which browser? Opera? Firefox? Lynx?
    SSH? I often use SSH clients from my computers to log into and manage my servers. A computer should do this. Does the iPhone?

    All the things you mention my previous phone could do too.
    It's a rather new Sony Ericsson. Difference was the screen and the UI on the iPone, -and- the SE's ability to transfer files with IR, BlueTooth and USB, use exchangeable SD cards for storage, ability to use mp3 files as ringtones, or just play ordinary mp3 files.

  9. Re:First post? by not+flu · · Score: 5, Insightful

    A larger point however is that the iPhone doesn't do any of those things without jailbreaking. With the exception of the iAno (which I admit sounds cool), pretty much any ol' symbian phone should be capable of everything else you mentioned.