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The REAL Reason We Use Linux

Vlad Dolezal writes "We tell people we use Linux because it's secure. Or because it's free, because it's customizable, because it has excellent community support... But all of that is just marketing BS. We tell that to non-Linux users because they wouldn't understand the REAL reason." The answer to his question probably won't surprise you.

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  1. It would be good... by Port1080 · · Score: 5, Informative

    If the editors didn't strip away the story link from the article when they posted it, yes?

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    1. Re:It would be good... by Peeet · · Score: 5, Informative

      Thank you for posting that. For those of us too lazy to even click on the link, the reason is "Because it is fun." Good afternoon, good evening and goodnight.

    2. Re:It would be good... by bondsbw · · Score: 5, Insightful

      For those of us too lazy to even click on the link, the reason is "Because it is fun."

      It really makes sense. Don't get me wrong, having the freedom to tinker with the kernel is nice. Having the ability to see the source code to ensure safety is great. But the majority of users don't actually use Linux (or any computer OS) for those purposes... they aren't a means to an end.

      I personally use Linux third to Mac OS X (at home), which is second to Windows (at work). I like understanding the different systems, because that's how I can keep up with the extreme pace of the software development industry. But I almost never use Windows at home, and here's why: competition.

      I want Microsoft to feel the pressure of competition. They have been feeling it for the past couple of years. And what do you know, it works! Firefox has caused the IE team to push towards open standards compliance. Love or hate OOXML, it's easier to work with than older formats (due to pressure from OOo and iWork). And there are many reasons to hate Vista, but it is more secure than older versions of Windows, it has much more advanced compositing, and a host of new things that are good for the future, even if they hurt now.

      So, I care more about the future of the computing world... the future of my career, a future of openness by major corporations that enables someone little like me to start and run a business. And I'm doing my part to make sure that happens.

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    3. Re:It would be good... by x_MeRLiN_x · · Score: 5, Insightful

      In a lot of people's experience (including mine), it's reality. Linux does have it's professional uses, but using it as a workstation is not viable for most people. Most people who pass on the opportunity to use Microsoft's software usually have an irrational hate for Microsoft itself and put that above what would be the best tool for the job.

      Maybe Microsoft does use stooges to spread their marketing online, but I doubt they'd bother to do it on Slashdot (it's a lost cause), and even if they did, so what? You have no evidence, so stop throwing around accusations because someone has a difference of opinion.

    4. Re:It would be good... by AGMW · · Score: 5, Insightful
      I am not saying XP is simple but at least it has ease of use on its side.

      Hmmmm. Not sure I agree with you there. I'd agree it has familiarity on it's side, but it is a myth that Windows is somehow inherently easier to use!

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    5. Re:It would be good... by Ibn+al-Hazardous · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Irrational? Hardly!

      The fact that I use Linux more or less exclusively makes people a lot less likely to ask for support on MS/MacOS related problems. Maybe that makes me asocial, but so what? Before I gave up on MS, my time did not belong to me, whereas now it does. If the phone calls in the middle of the night, it won't be one of my brothers having trouble installing a new sound card anymore. It'll be something that does actually matter in the middle of the night!

      So I use other software that does the stuff I need, and my OS is also my hobby, and I'm not in the unpaid computer support business anymore - what's irrational about that?

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    6. Re:It would be good... by HockeyPuck · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Having the ability to see the source code to ensure safety is great. I don't agree with this. I would bet that very few users go through ANY source code at all. Editing .conf files or running 'make xconfig' not constitute 'going through the source code'. And those that do, probably wouldn't be able to know what's going on.

      Let's say you're running a webserver (apache) which connects to a postgre database. Do you check all the code in apache+mods? filesystems? DNS? NIS? FibreChannel drivers?

      How is trusting Redhat/Debian/Suse to make sure their distribution is safe any different from trusting AIX or HPUX? I don't want to have to be the one at my company that audit's 1m lines of linux code to 'make sure it's safe' we just trust our distribution.

    7. Re:It would be good... by Kent+Recal · · Score: 5, Informative

      DOS != unix.

      You're not re-learning DOS when you switch to linux.
      Instead you're learning a true unix shell. Which gives you
      access to a large library of insanely powerful, time-tested
      commands that can be combined in an uncountable number of ways.

      Those not only enable you to solve a large number of problems
      (actually whole categories of problems) quicker and more reliable
      than any GUI could but they further enable you to automate your
      solutions for re-use.

      What may seem "inconvenient" at first is your first
      glimpse at the power of UNIX.

      Don't discard it so quickly because it's only white text on
      a black screen and "looks like DOS". It's not DOS.

    8. Re:It would be good... by ozmanjusri · · Score: 5, Insightful
      The problem with your stance is your emotionally charged world view concerning something that is intrinsically neutral

      A service provider who consistently provides poor service, overcharges, commits fraud, and lies about competitors is not intrinsically neutral.

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    9. Re:It would be good... by Anonymous+Drunkard · · Score: 5, Informative

      Our house has been running Ubuntu since Breezy. My children (now aged 9, 12, and 15) found it very easy to adjust to; in fact, my then-13 year old was bragging to her classmates about how Linux rocked. She is a heavy OpenOffice user, being saddled with homework and all, but she also uses it for her music, photos, and other media apps.

      My two younger children don't really use word processing yet - they spend their time on various interactive sites (Gaia, Club Penguin), and yet they are fully capable of customizing their environment. My 9 year old worked out how to create gradations and such in his background, and is teaching his older sister.

      The kids also appreciate the fact (as do I) that if, for whatever reason, they need to be migrated to a different computer, all we have to do is copy their $HOME directory and recopy it onto their new disk. Presto, all their email, bookmarks, chat logs, documents, and custom settings are instantly there.

      My oldest is amused because she can recharge her cell phone (Motorola Razr V3) by plugging into the USB port; likewise, all her friends' digital cameras are instantly found and their photos made available simply by plugging them in, and her MP3 device has similar instant functionality. Her windows friends all have to find (or buy) and install special software just for this.

      Our experience, especially with our children, is that Ubuntu is easy for a child of relatively average intelligence to grasp and use. Plus, if they only have user accounts without root privileges, those who are curious (and please show me a child who is NOT curious) can customize their environment to their hearts content without screwing any settings up.

      It's been about two years of solid win in this house.

  2. The answer won't surprise anyone! by 7-Vodka · · Score: 5, Funny

    Here it is in all it's glory:





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  3. The REAL reason we use Linux by thewiz · · Score: 5, Funny

    Penguins?

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    1. Re:The REAL reason we use Linux by dattaway · · Score: 5, Funny

      I never needed a reason to use Linux, but its hard to argue with penguins!

  4. I do not know about the rest of you l33t people by zappepcs · · Score: 5, Insightful

    but I use Linux because I don't want to pay MS for anything. ever. again.

    Sure, I pay donations to those software projects that I use, but it's affordable, and upgrades are free of DRM, spyware, and other nasties that I don't want to have to pay for. For me and my family, Linux works just as good if not better than MS products. That is why we use Linux.

    Fun? The Internet is fun no matter what OS is on the machine you are using. Paying to use a program seems rather ignorant at the prices MS charges. On Linux I never get a genuine advantage check BS window. Thats fun.

  5. It does what it needs to do by GreatDrok · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I don't know about all this fun stuff. I use Linux because it does the job I need it to. More to the point though, when something goes wrong it is pretty simple to track it down and fix it. Heck, I have repaired systems that have become seriously mangled where with Windows you wouldn't have much choice but to start over.

    I switched to Linux from UNIX (Irix at that time) and did so because that is the environment I need for my work. These days I use OS X for much the same reason. Whatever MS does to Windows, it is still a very closed system. If closed floats your boat, fine, but don't try and say that closed gets you a more reliable and cost effective system.

    Actually, UNIX is fun I guess ;-)

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  6. Because it works! by spaceyhackerlady · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I find Linux to be a congenial programming environment, where I can noodle together scripts and programs to get things done. It provides lots of sharp tools that make things easy.

    It doesn't get in the way like certain other OSs I could mention. It doesn't squander system resources on non-essentials (ditto), and I can tune it to allocate resources where they are needed. Oh, and did I mention? It just plain works!

    ...laura

  7. 'All powerful' root? by IBBoard · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Ever tried stopping a process in Windows and the OS wouldn't let you?

    Yes, and I've also had Linux do the same thing. It didn't give an error, but no matter how many times I "kill -9"ed it the process never paid attention to the command and carried on churning away. I guess that's the process rather than the OS, but it's still not always "all-powerful root".

    I think a more accurate list (from my view at least) is:

    1. Linux gives you complete control
    2. Linux is free (as-in-speech)
    3. Software install is easy
    4. It has less potential problems with web dev for a Linux server
    5. No DRM! You own the hardware, you own the software, you own the data.

    Oh, and the penguin is more cuddly than some flag or some annoying animated critter ;)
  8. It's the people, stupid. by rubenerd · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Granted I'm a FreeBSD guy [insert comment about why BSD is dying here] but I think the arguments are basically the same as for Linux. I agree with most of TFA, but I enjoy using FreeBSD and other Free software for another important reason: the people.

    Despite the fact commercial products can cost hundreds or thousands of dollars, their technical support services nearly always suck: they're slow, obscure, vague, answered by people who don't know what they're talking about or are reading off a sheet of paper that assumes everyone they reply to is an idiot, or at the very worst you don't get an answer at all. Just speaking from my own experience.

    Now granted there are plenty of jackarses on forums for Free software and the like, but on the whole I can post a question and generally get a useful response and in a fraction of the time. Plus if it's for a particular piece of ported software, generally I can either contact the port maintainer or the creator of the software directly and get helpful answers. I've NEVER got that from commercial software vendors. That's what makes the difference.

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  9. Reason #2 by PPH · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I can relate to this. Linux not being widely used.

    Some years ago, I was in engineering and involved in 'fixing' a system built by our IT department. They had sunk about $300 million into a system that was just barely functional. We (engineering and manufacturing) were supposed to supply them with appropriate requirements so IT could start over (yet again) building another piece of crap.

    We convinced our management that we should hammer out requirements by building a functioning prototype. As our IT department maintained a stranglehold over all things Windows, we chose to build on Linux and a few surplus Sun desktops with Perl, Apache and a few COTS packages. Keeping the IT dept. and Windows out of the picture allowed us to get a working demo of the shop floor interface up and running within a few weeks and half a dozen people completed the 'prototype' in about 6 months.

    When our system was up and running, it actually outperformed the one running on the Windows backend. When management saw it, they just gave the order to pull the plug on the legacy Windows system and place ours into production.

    Part of my job after the project completion (about 10% of my time) was to administrate 6 hosts that made up the new system. When our IT department made a pitch to management to take over administration, they quoted an recurring maintenance cost for their proposal of $50,000 per host per month. Management fell off their chairs laughing and I suggested that they pay me 6 * $50,000 per month.

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  10. Re:In related news by Ethanol-fueled · · Score: 5, Funny

    I accepted your challenge and went down the the local Starbuck's twice today: One with my Linux laptop(with a penguin sticker on it), and once with my Mac laptop. When I was there with my Linux laptop, I was hit on by all kinds of women saying, " aww, how cute, it's got a penguin on it. Then I fired up compiz and received plenty of ooohs and ahhhhs from the crowd. I returned a couple hours later with my Mac laptop and I was hit on...by scores of well-dressed, effeminate men. Being a heterosexual male, I promptly sold my Mac laptop and stuck with the angular, responsive laptop with a sense of humor.

    In yo face!

  11. Re:And this is why Linux is still laughed at... by Eivind · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Me too, at work anyway.

    Which is why it irks me to no end, when I log in as administrator on a Windows-box and tell it to please terminate a given process, and it does not. Not until you've told it to do that three times and waited for minutes anyway.

    Or I tell it to delete a file, and it tells me I "can't" do that, because the file is "open". I don't want to fiddle with that shit. I know what I'm doing, I want the OS to get out of my way and just bloody do what I tell it to do. Which Windows won't.

    And yes, I am -fully- aware of the WHY. The underlying reason is a weakness in the "file" metaphor used on Windows, but that's not much of an excuse. (on unix a "file" is a chunk of bytes with zero-or-more names. On Windows a "file" is a chunk of bytes with -precisely- ONE name) (okay, that ignores character and block-devices and fifos, but don't be nitpicky here...)

    I want to be able to install a update, yet NOT reboot anytime during the next 4 hours. Yes, I'm fully aware that program FOO may then fail to work properly until I finally do reboot, I STILL don't want to reboot now. And I'd much prefer if the OS could refrain from nagging every 15 minutes about that....