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Japanese ISPs To Cut Net Access For File Sharers

Posted by Zonk on from the would-be-nice-to-surf-the-net dept.

modemac writes "Four major Japanese telecom organizations, which represent 'about 1,000 major and smaller' domestic ISPs, have agreed to forcibly cut the Internet connection of filesharers. They're specifically targeting users of the 'Winny' program, trading copied gaming software and music. The article states that a new set of ISP guidelines will be drawn up on how to cut off users who 'leak illegally copied material onto the Net.'"

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  1. Filesharers by TFer_Atvar · · Score: 2, Insightful

    You're reading this HTML file right now. Guess they'd better cut me off for sharing it with you.

    1. Re:Filesharers by eiapoce · · Score: 4, Insightful

      "under my umbrella" - Now you are guilty of downloading lyrics. Your connection will be terminated soon. (This is the world we are gonna live if we don't educate the masses on the risks of corporations messing with laws)

  2. Lets hope this really happens by SmallFurryCreature · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Lets hope this really happens, let hope that ISP's in Japan really are this stupid and the Japanese citizens do the only thing that is logical. Cancel their service since it is no longer of any use to them so that ISP after ISP goes tits up.

    At least in holland a lot of ISP's are happy to advertise with 'download music fast' without having any music service whatsoever. Copyright infringement is one major reason to get one of the more expensive subscriptions, if everyone just went with the cheapest most minimal subscription, you know the one that is plenty for email, the web, gaming etc etc, then ISP's will really feel it in their revenue.

    On the longer term, lets hope the japanese ISP's learn very quickly that they opened the flood gates. If they can monitor this, expect everyone to come out. Just block winny? Don't count on it, every P2P program will be on it, and why just P2P, why not home run MMORPG servers, why not material that the goverment doesn't want you to host. Why not check every email for illegal material? Congrats, the ISP's in japan just become the enforcer for everyone with a gripe about the internet. There is reason the old telecoms never ever wished to do that with telephone services and they claim they have to keep a line open unless they get an outside complaint even if it is bloody obvious a phone line is only used for criminal activity. You do NOT want to become the police of your customers.

    Lets hope that this turns sour for the Japanese ISP's very quickly, because if this doesn't go totally wrong for the ISP's in question, we will get it elsewhere.

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    1. Re:Lets hope this really happens by mad+flyer · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The problem is winny users are totally unable to setup their ssoftware properly resulting in huge publication of sensitive datas. Quite often by police officer on their "home" computers.

      So cutting winny will do more good than harm... And maybe they will try to understand that software used by dirty foreigners called bittorrent...

    2. Re:Lets hope this really happens by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      As a content creator, yes I hope it DOES happen. Because I'm sick of self righteous pricks helping themselves to the fruits of my hard work and paying fuck all in return. Especially the pompous ones that come onto slashdot and try and define stealing hollywood movies as some kind of fucking civil rights issue.
      grow up. As someone who believes in copyright, you sir are a disgrace to it, need to grow up, and get a real job.
      You want money? Sell your art. Want more? Make more art and sell it too.
      Not enough money? Get a better job. You don't hear anyone crying over the walmart worker for not making millions due to their career choice.

      Copyright specifically says your work of art belongs to the public to further the arts and sciences.
      Those works of art belong to us, after a short time. Until that short time is up, we will keep hold of what is owed to us, since we clearly can not trust you to hold up your end of the deal anymore.
      DRM, trying to claim and define 'limited' as 70 years after you die, are all proof positive you have no intention of keeping your end of the copyright deal in good faith. Don't bitch when we don't either.

      Deal with it
    3. Re:Lets hope this really happens by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I create plenty of content as well. I do it for the love of putting it out there in the hope that others will get some joy out of it or that it will create more time for some. Apparently, if it is really worthwhile content, society will reward me and I will live forever.

      Shut up you greedy fuck and start smelling the shit your clearly shoveling.

    4. Re:Lets hope this really happens by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      So, let me sum up.

      Blah blah blah.

      You, as an artist, anger me. I would do without the product you're selling, but it's easily copied and I want it, and therefore I will take it, not pay you, and use a lot of flowery language to make *you* seem like the bad guy.

      Blah blah blah.

      My ability to easily take the fruits of your labor without recompense is *your* problem, and my doing so is in no way an indication of a moral failure on my part. I want free music because Sonny Bono was a dick and Mickey Mouse should be free.

      "We the people are sick of being ripped off."

      Because the record labels just held a gun to your head and forced you to buy all those albums, didn't they! N*Sync beat you up and took your wallet, didn't they! So this is what it's come to? You want music and someone's offering it for a price, you pay the price, and somehow that magically turns into "ripping you off?" I really hope you were waving a flag and standing on a spindle of CD-Rs while you typed that.

      Typical slashdot bullshit. First, everybody justified piracy because "I'm sick of buying a whole album for only two good songs!" Then iTunes let you buy only what you wanted. Then it was "I'm sick of paying money for music with DRM that keeps me from doing what I want with it!" So then they dropped DRM. Now it's "I pirate music because paying for things that I want is 'getting ripped off!'"

      Just admit it already. You don't need music, you *want* music. It's out there, but it's not free, and you take it because you don't want to pay for it. Period. If you're so outraged at those cruel, horrible conditions that you're forced to endure to get what you want - $.99 and no DRM? YOU FUCKING BASTARDS! - then DO WITHOUT IT. Either that, or stick to all of those awesome open-source bands out there that would rather die than - UURGH! - accept that dirty, filthy *money* for what they do, because otherwise you're no poor, downtrodden hero. You're just a cheapskate. Dress it up in all the fancy language you want, this isn't the civil rights campaign you want it to be.

    5. Re:Lets hope this really happens by penix1 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Copyright exists for one reason and one reason only. That reason isn't to guarantee you and your relatives an income for all eternity. Copyright has been so distorted that the original goal of releasing into the public domain is unheard of these days.

      Personally, I feel that if you value it so much, you can keep your precious crap. I want to see a bullet proof method of copyright enforcement implemented so that free sources can finally flourish. Do you honestly think the likes of Microsoft or Adobe would have half the "market share" (whatever that means) that they have today if all piracy came to an end? I don't. The same can be said for the pap that is peddled for music from the labels.

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    6. Re:Lets hope this really happens by dissy · · Score: 2, Insightful

      When I pay you $15 or $20 for your CD, why should I have to pay you again just to get that CD onto my computer or iPod?

      You only made that music once. I paid you once.

      What did you personally do that makes you deserve being paid a second time just so I can play my music on another device?

      But thanks, glad to know the artists care :{

    7. Re:Lets hope this really happens by Gideon+Fubar · · Score: 2, Insightful

      That's entirely untrue.. It's just that most of the Japanese material is animated and has English subtitles.. ;)

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  3. Re:That will only work... by rucs_hack · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I personally think that 99.99999% of the reason ISP's are coming round to the idea of punishing file sharers is that doing so will cut their costs, thus extending the profitable lifetime of their current levels of infrastructure. After all, they need to make room for this new media on demand thing.

    I don't for a second think it's because they are concerned about copyrights. I doubt they'd admit this though.