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The Man Who Guards Clinton's Wikipedia Entry

Timothy found a profile in The New Republic of Jonathan Schilling, a 53-year-old software developer from New Jersey who works to keep Hillary Clinton's Wikipedia entry clean and fair throughout the election season. "After he started editing her page in June 2005, Schilling became consumed with trying to capture her uncomfortable place in American culture, researching and writing a whole section on how she polarizes the public... [T]he attacks on Hillary's page mainly take the form of crude vandalism... It's different on Obama's page, where the fans — no surprise — are more enthusiastic, the haters are more intelligent, and the arguments reflect the fact that Obama himself is still a work under construction... The bitterness of the fights on Obama's page could be taken as a bad sign for the candidate. But it may actually be Hillary's page that contains the more troubling omens. Few, if any, Hillary defenders are standing watch besides Schilling. In recent days, the vaguely deserted air of a de-gentrifying neighborhood has settled over her page..."

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  1. Re:I find it interesting... by mh1997 · · Score: 5, Informative

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bellwether A bellwether is any entity in a given arena that serves to create or influence trends or to presage future happenings.
    and the very next sentnece reads: "The term is derived from the Middle English bellewether and refers to the practice of placing a bell around the neck of a castrated ram (a wether) in order that this animal might lead its flock of sheep." Which is what the parent stated.
  2. Re:Losing my faith in politics by hansamurai · · Score: 5, Informative

    So yeah considering Wikipedia as some kind of "omen" of general consensus among voters just makes me think of the jokes (from SNL i think?) around when WP was created like: "Wikipedia this July will celebrate America's 600th anniversary of independence thanks to General Hello Kitty's heroic strategies in the war with China." That actually sounds funny, so it can't be SNL. Probably the Onion.
  3. Re:Losing my faith in politics by Flying+Scotsman · · Score: 5, Informative
  4. Re:Self-appointed dictator? by dkleinsc · · Score: 4, Informative

    The campaign page has a few more of the criticisms, but you're right that her biography page is carefully missing anything negative.

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  5. Re:Losing my faith in politics by ArcherB · · Score: 3, Informative

    John McCain is the enemy. First, John McCain is not the enemy. America has many enemies. Osama Bin Laden would be a fine example of one. John McCain is not an enemy of America. For that matter, he's a true American hero. I'm not saying that qualifies him to president any more than it did John Kerry, but don't take an American hero and call him the "enemy". That's just hateful, partisan rhetoric. Enough of the hate speech already.

    John McCain wants us to stay in Iraq for 100 more years. Typical of the left. Lying about their opponent and declaring them the "enemy". HERE is a video of what he said.

    Notice he didn't say that he WANTED to be in Iraq for 100 years. He said he would do what it takes to protect America.

    He then went on to note that we've had soldiers in Germany, Italy, Britain, Japan, South Korea and other places for over 50 years. If you are going to bitch about American soldiers being station over seas, you should start with these places where US forces have been stationed over 10X longer.

    So please, stop lying about McCain. I didn't even finish the rest of your McCain rant. If you can't be honest about what he said in the first two sentences, you've lost all credibility over the rest.
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  6. Re:Losing my faith in politics by KevinKnSC · · Score: 2, Informative

    According to the story, Cain was a farmer, not a shepherd.

  7. Article Date???! by kc2keo · · Score: 2, Informative

    Published: Wednesday, April 09, 2008
  8. Re:Losing my faith in politics by morgan_greywolf · · Score: 3, Informative

    But people still perpetuate the nonsense that Gore claimed he invented the Internet. But he did claim to have invented in the Internet. It's just that later he clarified his misstatement and spoke about his real accomplishment, which was to provide the funding for the transition from the old Internet infrastructure, centered around NSFNet and Milnet to the new consumer- and ebusiness-centric Internet infrastructure centered around commercial networks. Which is very laudable, but the oringal misstatement is so obviously humorous that it gets repeated. I even repeat, tongue-fully-in-cheeck, now and then.

    As for the SBVT thing, I didn't actually pay attention, because, IMHO, John Kerry's military service record was really irrelevant to his presidential candidacy. If something that happened that long ago really mattered, many U.S. presidents, including Ronald Reagan, Bill Clinton and George W. Bush would never have been elected. (Reagan once did porn, Clinton smoked pot and dodged the draft, Bush snorted coke).

  9. Re:Losing my faith in politics by Shakrai · · Score: 2, Informative

    The South Koreans (at least all the ones I know) don't want us in South Korea

    Which ones are you talking to? When I was in Korea I didn't see any hostility towards our troops and the few people that I talked to were either supportive of us or neutral about it. I didn't meet anybody that seemed anxious for us to leave.

    The Japanese don't want us in Okinawa

    Maybe that's why we are planning on leaving Okinawa and moving our forces there to Guam? We aren't occupying them -- it was a basing agreement that they signed willingly back in the day.

    soldiers habitually raping 12 year-old girls might have something to do with that

    "Habitually"? I can think of three cases in the last 15 years. That's "habitually"?

    I imagine the Germans would like us to leave straight away

    Think again. Our forces in Germany are a great economic benefit for those areas where they are stationed. A lot of Germans (in and out of Government) were disappointed when we announced that we'd be pulling upwards of 50% of them out of the country.

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  10. An Intellectual "Car Wash" by The+Angry+Mick · · Score: 2, Informative

    Nothing gets rid of the mud quicker than an intellectual "car wash". The more people become aware of sites like Media Matters and Fact Check, the less likely they'll be to buy into the bullshit.

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  11. Re:Losing my faith in politics by ArcherB · · Score: 2, Informative

    You're right. Maybe I should have said "far left". You can not deny the raw hatred that comes from the far left of this country. Granted, I'm sure there is just as much from the far right (the KKK for example), but Republicans tend to distance themselves from that level of politics. I don't see a whole lot of Democrats calling Code Pink, ANSWER, MoveOn.org, Air America, Huffington Post, Daily Kos and so one what they truly are. You may want to look at yourself. This attack is laughable and shrieks of parody. I have. I have never compared Clinton to Hitler. Unfortunately, it's not just the "FAR" left that does it. Take a look at MSNBC's highest rated commentator comparing Bush to Hitler. At Huffington, you see comments like the following:

    * "Like her evil husband, she has lived far too long. Here's hoping the hag suffers for several weeks, then croaks in the tub."
    * "The old bat will probably steal everything in the hospital room."
    * "I feel no pity for the b---- who took delight in watching thousands die of a horrible disease and watching the poor having to eat out of dumpsters because of her husband's political beliefs." They are speaking of Nancy Reagan when she was in the hospital.

    You don't see me carrying signs calling for the forced sterilization of Democrats.

    You don't see me comparing Democrats to Nazis. ...
    Or calling for war against the US.

    Other quotes from Huffington Post:
    (talking about Dick Cheney)

    I'm embarrased that this guy hasn't had a heart-attack yet. The kind that end's life.

    Get a rope for Dick..

    hang cheney for war crimes this week.
    hang cheney for treason against america this week.
    hang cheney. And that is just page 1.

    And that is just after about 2 minutes research....

    Nope, sorry. I never called Clinton Hitler. I never called for the overthrow of our government when a Democrat was in office. I never accused our soldiers in Bosnia of war crimes. I've never hoped for the miserable death of anyone on the left side of the aisle (or their families!). Sorry, but I'm nothing like these people. Maybe you should remove your partisan colored glasses when you read Huffpo or any of the other left wing sites to see what I'm talking about. What I've offered here is just an sampling of the hate coming from the left. All of it is over the line and none of it is justified.

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  12. Re:Losing my faith in politics by Foobar+of+Borg · · Score: 2, Informative

    (1) put Saddam in power
    Care to show some proof? I haven't found anything that said we put him in power.
    You're joking, right? Or are you really so willfully ignorant? This is something that has been so well established you would have to be totally immersed in your own little dream world to have not noticed it. But, here are a couple of quick links: here and here.

    (2) invaded in the first Gulf war
    Last I checked, Kuwait was not part of Iraq, as much as Saddam may have wanted it to be. If we had actually invaded, Saddam wouldn't have been in power after that.
    *Boggles* Man, you really are a clueless one, aren't you? Saddam invaded Kuwait. We invaded Iraq in 1991. We did not invade Baghdad, take out Saddam, and completely conquer the country, but we did invade Iraq, set up things like No-Fly Zones, and occasionally conduct bombing campaigns (which generally did not get into the American press).

    3) imposed strict sanctions, a no-fly zone, and bombed the country from time to time (and *why* did any of you stupid fuckers for a minute think there was the slightest chance he would have WMD? are you just stupid, or what?)
    As did the UN and several other countries. Also, supposedly Saddam wanted others to think he had WMDs.Link

    invaded again without any thought of the consequences
    you mean, without thinking that foriegn fighters would be coming into the country with outside support?
    You seem to have missed the part about it being Americans who were always pushing for the harshest sanctions and the part about it being American and British forces that were always bombing Iraq.

    As for the foreign fighter, WTF is your point? There are domestic insurgents as well, as there have been from the beginning. Not counting on foreign fighters coming in as well as al-Qaeda (another American product since we set them up, armed them, and trained them to fight the Soviets) who were not even in Iraq or had anything to do with Iraq before the war is just another of many examples of Cheney et al sticking their heads in the sand (or trying to get us to) and insisting that we would be greeted as liberators. Anyone, including myself, who had been paying any attention to what was going on in Iraq before the war knew already that WMDs and "greeted as liberators" was a load of horse shit. How can a country that we keep bombing the fuck out of for over 10 years possibly have a WMD program and why would they greet us as liberators?

  13. Re:Losing my faith in politics by Necrobruiser · · Score: 4, Informative

    But the 15th Amendment refers to the voting as a "right".
    "The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of race, color, or previous condition of servitude."
    So the Constitution basically says that it is a right and it can be taken away, just not for the reasons listed.

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  14. Re:Losing my faith in politics by GungaDan · · Score: 2, Informative

    And don't forget that you don't have a right to vote to determine your state's electors - unless your state legislature gives you that right. It is up to the state legislatures to designate electors, and there need not (by Federal law) be any voting involved in its doing so.

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  15. Re:Losing my faith in politics by CrimsonAvenger · · Score: 2, Informative

    No US soldier ever died of hostile fire during the Germany or Japan occupations.

    This is true. Note, however, that in 1945 this was not the expected result. The Army fully expected that Germans and Japanese would be killing American soldiers for years to come.

    And we occupied them anyway. And based on what my father has said on the subject, the only reason we're having problems that way in Iraq is that the Rules of Engagement we're operating under give every advantage to the enemy.

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  16. Re:Losing my faith in politics by ArcherB · · Score: 2, Informative

    That's odd, I've never made any statements similar to the random comments you extruded from various random websites. Sorry, but MSNBC's primetime show is not exactly some "random website". Oh yeah, the same guy also did commentary for NBC Football. Not exactly someone outside the mainstream.

    Yet you just made a statement upthread claiming that I and ALL of the other commentors over at DailyKos Hate America, and unless the Democratic party as a whole rejects DailyKos, they too Hate America. No, I said that many of the comments at Daily Kos and Huffpo are hate filled and bigoted. I also pointed out that no one on the left seems to mind. Besides, I wouldn't exactly call Markos Moulitsas some commentor on the Daily Kos. He's the founder! What was he said? What did the FOUNDER of daily Kos say when talking about Americans whose charred bodies were mutilated and hung from a bridge in Fallujah?

    That said, I feel nothing over the death of merceneries [sic]. They aren't in Iraq because of orders, or because they are there trying to help the people make Iraq a better place. They are there to wage war for profit. Screw them. Of course, not all liberals agree with him. Juan Williams slammed him. However, there are WAY too many that think it's OK to say stupid shit like that. There are those out there who defend that kind of hate filled garbage. Congratulations! You are one of those people.

    I just don't see the logic in all of this. It's hard to logically justify such hatred. That's why so many people on the FAR left vilify their opponents. That's why you hear so much "Bush is Hitler" talk. It's the only way they can justify such blind hatred.

    And besides, don't you think it's possible that someone could do a search of right-wing websites and find similar comments? What would such a summary say about you? If you could find it, I would be the next to denounce it. I looked it up, why can't you? While I'm sure there is hateful things said from the right, they are not nearly as prevalent and others on the right are the first to slam them down. Also, you don't find these hate filled people from the right getting over a million hits on their blogs like the DailyKos.

    (I was going to link to another story at Kos where the writer was hoping for America to be invaded, conquered and occupied, just so we'd know what it felt like and would become peace loving hippies. I figure, that has worked so well in Israel and the Palestinian territories that it has to be worth a shot. However, the story "can't be found", however, it has tags and 102 comments! I guess some things are too vile for Kos... Oh wait! It's an election year!)

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