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Upgrade Trick Still Present In Vista SP1

Chris Blanc writes "The new Service Pack 1 version of Windows Vista allows end users to purchase the 'upgrade edition' and install it on any PC — with no need to purchase the more expensive 'full edition.' The same behavior was present when Vista was originally released, but the fact that the trick wasn't removed from SP1 suggests that Microsoft executives approved the back door as a way to make the price of Vista more appealing to sophisticated buyers."

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  1. Re:Not just Vista by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    I think the point is that vista doesent even ask for previous media, it just installs no questions asked

  2. Re:Sophistication by Zakabog · · Score: 3, Informative

    I don't think you get it, this is like a car dealer with two identical cars on the lot, one's an upgrade and costs half as much as the other but to legally buy it you need an older version of the same car. The thing is, the dealer isn't checking if you have the older car so you can buy the cheaper one and save on money.

  3. Re:Not just Vista by gEvil+(beta) · · Score: 4, Informative

    I think the point is that vista doesent even ask for previous media, it just installs no questions asked

    That's nice of them, because I do have a fully licensed version of XP MCE that came with a machine I bought a few years ago. However, it was an HP, so I only have the crappy "Restore" discs that it let me make, which includes all the crapware they were paid to include. I'm fairly certain a Windows upgrade disc wouldn't accept these as "genuine" media that's eligible for upgrade, even though they should be. It's nice to know that I can install Vista onto a fresh HD without having to deal with first installing XP and all the extra crap, only to blow it away with the upgrade.

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  4. Re:What does the EULA permit? by mbge7psh · · Score: 5, Informative
    From the EULA:

    13. UPGRADES. To use upgrade software, you must first be licensed for the software that is eligible for the upgrade. Upon upgrade, this agreement takes the place of the agreement for the software you upgraded from. After you upgrade, you may no longer use the software you upgraded from. Buying the upgrade version when your not entitled to it doesn't make you copy any more legal than a pirated copy.
  5. Re:Sophisticated Buyers by k3vlar · · Score: 4, Informative

    Ignorance and blatant disregard for how something works seems to be what the internet is for in todays society.
    Yes, that is what the internet is for.

    On a related note, I've used Vista, extensively, and don't like it. I don't bash it at every opportunity, but I do discourage its use for the following reasons
    • - UAC is still the most aggravating privilege prompt I've used
    • - Vista, compared with Ubuntu or OS X, runs extremely slowly
    • - Control Panel, and other OS dialogs have been obfuscated and made extremely convoluted for no apparent reason
    • - (Subjective) I dislike the Aero user interface
    So there are three valid, and one personal reason that I prefer to use Ubuntu and OS X for my computing needs.
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  6. IP35 by Simian+Road · · Score: 3, Informative

    Ever tried installing Ubuntu on an IP35 chipset? I did last week and it was a real ass.

    First had to switch the Sata connections over on my motherboard from the lower 1-4 ports to the5-6 ports, then turn on AHCI in the Bios. Then it won't boot from CD whilst AHCI is on so I turn it back off. Finally found out that I needed to use the alternate install disc and add the -irqpoll setting to get it to even begin installing. Once it was installed it wouldn't boot into Ubuntu properly so I had to turn AHCI back on (which makes it work fine!). Although this has the downside of making me unable to boot from CD, the CD still works in the OS and now that I have everything working I don't care about booting. The slight downside (or upside depending on how you look at it) is that XP then stopped working because of the AHCI. One final reset back to normal Sata, tweak the registry, switch back the bios and I was done.

    I'm not hugely tech-savvy but I was quite happy at getting it to work in the end. Just don't tell me that Ubuntu is easy to install!

    ***Puts on Flame-proof coat***

    1. Re:IP35 by HooDee · · Score: 3, Informative

      Off topic stuff, but...

      Yes I have. Asus P5K-E Wifi (Intel P35 chipset), 8800 GTS, 4GB, C2D E6750. AHCI on all the time.

      After very easy installation everything works just fine "out of the box". Yes, even the built-in WLAN adapter, sound card, graphics card, compiz effects. etc etc.. The version I tried was 64-bit Ubuntu Hardy Heron Alpha version something.

      I did have a blank screen problem after booting from the installation cd, but it was very easy to fix. Just remove the splash -keyword from boot params in the boot selection menu.

      After installation + doing dist-upgrade the splash problem was gone too. Apart from the initial blank screen problem installation was amazingly easy.

      Sorry for my crappy English. I've been lurking around here in Slashdot for a long time now, way before I even created my account, but I tend to stay out of the discussions because of my lacking English writing skills, but this was something I think needed correction / another experience.

  7. Re:no need to purchase the more expensive... by geekoid · · Score: 3, Informative

    Um, violating a contract isn't illegal.
    It's a violation of an agreement and thus actionable through civil channels.

    Not even taking into account the fact that not following a one sided contract may not even be actionable in a civil court.

    But, you sit there on your high horse, make ad Hominem attacks, and continue to keep your brain in idle. The rest of us recognize you for the ass hat you are.

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  8. Re:I'll accept it in your stead by Technician · · Score: 4, Informative

    The default install of Ubunto 10.whatever-it-is fails on VMware Fusion because Fusion presents the virtual disk as scsi and the front-end to Grub in the installer doesn't get it.

    For a non-standard install, download and install from the Alternate ISO. It fits nicely on a bootable DVD. You can skip Grub if needed. The live install CD was not intended for power users.

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  9. Re:I'll accept it in your stead by ZsoL · · Score: 3, Informative

    The default install of Ubunto 10.whatever-it-is fails on VMware Fusion because Fusion presents the virtual disk as scsi and the front-end to Grub in the installer doesn't get it. Well I guess you should provide it with an IDE virtual disk using the options of VMware Fusion...
  10. Re:Its easy unless something goes wrong by Curtman · · Score: 3, Informative

    Why are you installing if you have a previous version of Ubuntu installed already? Change your repo's and apt-get dist-upgrade.

    There's even an easy way.