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Google Sued Over Privacy Invasion On Street View

mikkl666 writes "A couple from Pittsburgh has sued Google because a photo of their house appeared on Google Street View. They are demanding in excess of $25,000 to make up for the 'mental suffering' and the diminished value of their home. Their street is apparently marked with a 'Private Road' sign, and they claim that putting a photo of their property online is an 'intentional and/or grossly reckless invasion' of their privacy. Google, on the other hand, claims that this lawsuit is pointless since anyone can ask them to have pictures removed without legal action. We've previously discussed some of the privacy concerns surrounding Street View."

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  1. lol.. by 4D6963 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I just love it when people grab any occasion to try to sue as much money as they can from large (and rich) companies, no matter how ridiculous it sounds. A chance these companies also have dozens of lawyers for whenever that happens.

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  2. Opt out? by dnoyeb · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I don't like opt-out memberships. The ability for companies to get away with opt-out usually comes from legislation. Not simple company choice.

  3. Re:Diminished Value? by jrumney · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Presumably they see some of the value in their house being in the fact that it is on a "private" road. Google's images demonstrate how little that is really worth, thus lowering the value of their property.

  4. Re:I don't like that defense by Smidge204 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    First, it appears that no attempt to request the images be removed was made.

    Second, doing shit like this only makes it worse. If there really was any concern over privacy then this is by far the worst thing you could do to protect it.

    Third, I would love so hear how taking pictures of a property devalues it. At best you can charge them with trespassing since it was private property - a criminal charge which would probably be more effective at changing Google's policies than a civil suit - but you can't get any cash out of a criminal charge.

    In other words, this has all the seemings of someone who decided to look up their own house on Street View and thought "free money!"
    =Smidge=

  5. Re:I don't like that defense by tkrotchko · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It's more like

    "There is no damage".

    Boom. End of sentence. I would say there is no expectation of privacy from outer space or from the street. It's not reasonable.

    As for "Mental Anguish", I suffer a lot of mental anguish every day that I'm in traffic. Who do I sue? And only $25K for mental anguish. Either they didn't have a lot of anguish or they don't have a lot of mental.

    As for the diminished value of their house, it sounds like they're looking for Google to reimburse them for the downturn in the market that has cut housing values from 1/4 to 3/4's (depending on where you live).

    Overall, this is the kind of lawsuit that makes you think the world is overpopulated. On so many levels.

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  6. Re:I don't like that defense by goldspider · · Score: 4, Insightful

    My generation has really taken to heart the old adage "It's easier to beg forgiveness than to ask permission". Just another symptom of our society's growing sense of entitlement and disrespect of others' personal property and privacy.

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  7. Re:Diminished Value? by Dan541 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Should they not seek to prosecute Google for trespassing then?

    ~Dan

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  8. Re:I don't like that defense by Troed · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ... but you do treat the outside of your house with the expectation that others (random people) will look at it and admire it/you.

  9. Re:Diminished Value? by STrinity · · Score: 5, Insightful

    After seeing the map, I think the owners have a point -- the private road is essentially their driveway, and they have a line of trees screening their house from outside view. These people want privacy, and Google violated it. I don't know if it's worth $25,000, but on top of the incident where the Google Street View van drove onto a military base in contravention of Google's rules, I think this is a sign that the people taking the pictures are inadequately trained and lack common sense.

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  10. Darwin Effect of 'Diminished Value' by Geodesy99 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I did a project more than a decade ago with EMTs and other first responders about vehicle INS systems ( before GPS became ubiquitous ). The drivers jokingly ( or maybe not ) noted that the eventual real effect of people that had overgrown vegitation, concealed drives, locked gates, non-existent or faded curb numbers, missing or angled house numbers and unlit or burned out porch lights was that response time effectively doubles or triples with a corresponding effect on medical survival rates. As society becomes more dependent of spatial technologies like StreetView, a similar counter-survival friction will occur as Fedex, Dominos, and EMTs are delayed by uncertain spots in their data. So that EMT's opinion was that eventually these 'hiding' people would be selected against and be left in the shallow end of the gene pool.

  11. Re:I don't like that defense by nahdude812 · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Photography in the US is permitted in public places, and does not require permission in advance. From The Photographer's Bill of Rights:

    The general rule in the United States is that anyone may take photographs of whatever they want when they are in a public place or places where they have permission to take photographs. Absent a specific legal prohibition such as a statute or ordinance, you are legally entitled to take photographs. Examples of places that are traditionally considered public are streets, sidewalks, and public parks.
    Google is going above and beyond by offering to remove any objected photos, at their expense, and without the need to raise legal action.

    Roads are considered public places. I don't know whether roads marked as private are considered public or not (it takes more than the posting of a sign to make something so), this probably depends on the municipality, and whether or not the road itself is actually private property (and as such they'd have to pay themselves for plowing and other maintenance). In that case, Google's mistake might have simply for their driver to have failed to notice the sign labeling it as private. In such a case, I think you'd have to prove Google knowingly and willingly chose to act in the face of knowledge that what they did was incorrect. Because this is such an unusual circumstance (very very few roads are private which don't have some sort of gate on the end) that the burden should be on the owners to protect themselves from unwitting violation of their atypical case.

    Regardless, these people are exposing themselves to a serious Streisand Effect by trying to make such a public issue of the complaint. If instead they had emailed Google and requested the removal, Google would have quietly complied, and no one would have even noticed. Guaranteed, if they see other people looking at their home as a way to devalue it (which I cannot see), then any publicity they generate for themselves will be far more damaging than the mere existence of an image mixed in among millions of others.
  12. Re:Diminished Value? by kyct · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I don't know about the legal status of a "private road" but if I'm on public property, I can take a picture of your house as long as it can be seen from public property. It's not against the law. The only things that are exempt from this are government and military locations.