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Writers Find Blogging To Be a Stressful Method of Reporting

Andrew Feinberg points out a New York Times story about the stress put upon prolific bloggers to maintain a constant flow of content in order to satisfy both consumers and advertisers in the information age. When breaking a story first can generate thousands more page views and clicks, many bloggers are finding themselves chained to their computers, worrying that they'll miss something important if they step away. Quoting: " 'I haven't died yet,' said Michael Arrington, the founder and co-editor of TechCrunch, a popular technology blog. The site has brought in millions in advertising revenue, but there has been a hefty cost. Mr. Arrington says he has gained 30 pounds in the last three years, developed a severe sleeping disorder and turned his home into an office for him and four employees. 'At some point, I'll have a nervous breakdown and be admitted to the hospital, or something else will happen. This is not sustainable,' he said."

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  1. Reminds me of Maddox by SRA8 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Reminds me of Maddox. I check his page almost everyday for updates and get angry every time he hasn't posted new content. I only abstain from complaining due to fear of having my email posted!

    1. Re:Reminds me of Maddox by PlatyPaul · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Yeah, I know you were being funny (and linking to Maddox which, for the record, is a practice I wholly support), but there's truth to what you're saying.

      When you can see the news any moment, you expect the news every moment. When people read newspapers primarily, it was considered acceptable to not be up-to-date until the next day. Then came radio, then TV news, then internet news sites (with full-length articles), then blogs. Now, microblog services like Twitter are pushing the boundaries of what we consider "up-to-date". When 9-11 happened, I knew people who didn't found out until late afternoon. If the same happened today, it would be a shock if someone hadn't heard within the hour.

      I'm not surprised that it's exhausting to be a news blogger; it's hard enough just being a paper reporter. But, then again: those who love to do it will continue to do it.

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    2. Re:Reminds me of Maddox by TubeSteak · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I'm not surprised that it's exhausting to be a news blogger; it's hard enough just being a paper reporter. I think the problem with bloggers is that so many of them are making solo efforts.
      More bloggers need a sister site or blog-ring which will is updating during their 'off' hours.

      But, then again: those who love to do it will continue to do it. It's funny that society accepts this excuse for workaholics, but not alcoholics.
      It doesn't matter how much you love what you do if it burns you out or ruins your health.
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      o0t!
    3. Re:Reminds me of Maddox by JWeinraub · · Score: 1

      Well I was in classes all morning at university when the attacks occurred. There is no central PA system, so nobody had a clue. On the way to my next class is where a janitor told me about what happened. Even then, it didn't register how tragic the events were because it was all second-hand information, so I just went into my next class. I just thought it was like what happened last time, a car bomb blew up, and little damage was really done.

      Just as class started, somebody came in screaming the WTC just collapses, my wife works there, I'm going to try to call her!!

      The teacher didn't know what to do, so he kept teaching. Half the class was ignoring him, trying to call family and friends, my dad worked near the WTC so I left and called, and thankfully he was all right. But the point is, even with all these technologies, it wouldn't of helped me. Up to the second news is simply stupid really. It can wait until I get to a terminal to read it.

    4. Re:Reminds me of Maddox by Original+Replica · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I think the problem with bloggers is that so many of them are making solo efforts.

      I think the problem is:"The site has brought in millions in advertising revenue...in the last three years...turned his home into an office for him and four employees." Millions of dollars in three years and he's only got four employees and is working out of his home? Get an office and hire some more people you penny pinching fool! Or cash out, put the money in high interest savings, and work part time to supplement the $80k+ a year that $2 million will earn in interest. Look at the decades it takes to gross a few million as a plumber or mechanic or teacher or police officer and then tell me how hard it is to write a blog. Sure it might be more intense it the short term to maintain a highly successful blog, but it it allows you to retire in five years instead of a career of forty years, your sum total of stress and difficulty is going to be far far less in the end.

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    5. Re:Reminds me of Maddox by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      When 9-11 happened, I knew people who didn't found out until late afternoon. If the same happened today, it would be a shock if someone hadn't heard within the hour.

      I don't know what your lifestyle is like, but there are those of us in the United States who spend whole minutes -- even hours -- away from the computer and the television.
    6. Re:Reminds me of Maddox by nmb3000 · · Score: 1

      Reminds me of Maddox. I check his page almost everyday for updates and get angry every time he hasn't posted new content. I only abstain from complaining due to fear of having my email posted!

      The biggest difference is that Maddox doesn't, and hasn't ever, placed advertisements on his site. From what I understand it is hosted essentially for free by Xmission because they rock. His updates have become more and more sparse, but I figure that's what happens when Real Life catches up with you and demands attention.

      I think the guy in TFS should just suck it up like a big boy, then take his millions and go home. Crying about needing to work for a living isn't going to get you very far with most people, especially when you're raking it in like that. The Internet, she is a harsh mistress; you will lose people's attention fast if there's nothing new for them to see. The story is appropriately tagged 'cry me a river'.

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    7. Re:Reminds me of Maddox by doesnothingwell · · Score: 1

      When 9-11 happened, I knew people who didn't found out until late afternoon. If the same happened today, it would be a shock if someone hadn't heard within the hour.

      I don't know what your lifestyle is like, but there are those of us in the United States who spend whole minutes -- even hours -- away from the computer and the television.
      Lets see, catching up on sleep after a long road trip, or watching the World Trade Center buildings fall? To my wife at the time, "Is it going to fall on me right now... I'm going back to sleep"
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    8. Re:Reminds me of Maddox by R3d+M3rcury · · Score: 1

      "[...] there are those of us in the United States who spend whole minutes -- even hours -- away from the computer and the television."

      What is this "away from the computer and television" of which you speak? Your ideas are intriguing and I'd like to subscribe to your blog... :^D

    9. Re:Reminds me of Maddox by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's easy to be a MSM reporter. Only pick stories that fit your agenda and warp the writing to fit.

    10. Re:Reminds me of Maddox by Dan541 · · Score: 1

      I use http://www.changedetection.com/ to monitor his site.

      It's quite stressful not knowing when the update will come then when it does it's over so fast.

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      An SQL query goes to a bar, walks up to a table and asks, "Mind if I join you?"
    11. Re:Reminds me of Maddox by StarfishOne · · Score: 1

      So true, so true! With "millions of dollars" I'd indeed either outsource the thing almost completely or take the cash and enjoy life. $80K a year.. basically you can stop working.

    12. Re:Reminds me of Maddox by e03179 · · Score: 1

      Get an office and hire some more people you penny pinching fool! Or cash out, put the money in high interest savings, and work part time to supplement the $80k+ a year that $2 million will earn in interest.
      ...said the Slashdot poster.
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    13. Re:Reminds me of Maddox by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      yeah exactly - this bloggers 'lifestyle' isn't tough by any stretch - what a whining fcuk

    14. Re:Reminds me of Maddox by electrictroy · · Score: 2, Interesting

      That's my plan. Earn a million, and then slow down and retire (still work, but only part-time).

      If the blogger in the original article doesn't enjoy his life, then he needs to step back and re-examine if it's a life worth living. If the answer is "no" then he should limit himself to just once-a-day updates to reduce the stress, or else quit and find a different job.

      Personally I'd rather work at a "cushy" job like Walmart than be a Blogger. May not pay much, but it's far less stressful. (Only reason I'm not at walmart now is because my office job is just as easy, but pays five times as much.)

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      The government is not your daddy. Its purpose is not to raid middle-class neighbors' wallets and give it to you.
    15. Re:Reminds me of Maddox by Noexit · · Score: 1

      I work for a newspaper. Is it ok if I know what's going on 24/7?

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      Never argue with a man carrying a water buffalo

  2. OK, here's a suggestion by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Troll

    Get a real job!

    1. Re:OK, here's a suggestion by aplusjimages · · Score: 2, Insightful

      So he can be unhappy and get fat working under someone else. Fuck that. This is a real job. He's making a living off of it and has 4 employees. I say get more employees to do the work for you.

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  3. fat and rich by thegnu · · Score: 3, Insightful

    if he's made millions of dollars, can't he just move to a small island off the coast of Mexico and have young women make him ceviche, bring him beer, and blow him for the rest of his life?

    I gained 30 lbs once, and I've since dropped the weight, but I have nothing to show for it. I wonder if we'll get an article here soon about how executives making millions of dollars are stressed out.

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    1. Re:fat and rich by jhoger · · Score: 4, Informative

      I doubt "millions" refers to earnings. It likely refers to revenue. So after a few "millions" in revenue he has to pay tax and any expenses including salary, benefits of staff. It divides up pretty quick. Plus the owner has been drawing salary and dividends in the meantime.

      Plus if you think you can retire on what's leftover there I think that is a bit unrealistic. Say he has 1M leftover. Assuming a risk-free rate of 5% that's $50,000 per year. That used to be a starting California programmer's salary in the late 90's. I don't know about anyone else but I didn't feel rich. You definitely cannot support a family on that supposing he has one. Certainly you won't be renting an island, a chef and prostitutes for $50K/year.

      -- John.

    2. Re:fat and rich by v1 · · Score: 1

      Glad I'm not the only one that questions why this guy is complaining about a few tradeoffs he had to make to become a millionaire.

      So all I need to do to become a millionaire is to lose some sleep, gain a little weight, and use my home as an office for a few years? Hey, I'm cool with that.

      My next question would be, so... if you've made a ton of money, and are starting to feel the backlash, why haven't you handed the torch off to someone else to go retire somewhere and enjoy a relaxing, stress-free early retirement?

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    3. Re:fat and rich by Peter+Cooper · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Assuming a risk-free rate of 5% that's $50,000 per year. That used to be a starting California programmer's salary in the late 90's. I don't know about anyone else but I didn't feel rich. You definitely cannot support a family on that supposing he has one. You most certainly can, as long as you own your own home (no rent or mortgage to pay) and you live in the 99.9% of the world that isn't Manhattan or SF :) Heck, my family's expenses are far less than that and we pay a mortgage and live well.

      The greed behind thinking "I *must* make $100k+ to survive" is one of the many factors sending this industry down the toilet.
    4. Re:fat and rich by scubamage · · Score: 1

      If you have a million dollars and you invest it thats still a pretty hefty sum. In fact, investing it in a stock which gives 1.20 annual dividends will yield more than 90,000$ a year in dividends alone, not to mention regular capital gains. More than enough to live on for the rest of your life and cover your tax obligations.

    5. Re:fat and rich by Otter · · Score: 1
      You most certainly can, as long as you own your own home (no rent or mortgage to pay)...

      Well, yes. If someone gave me a free house, I definitely could live on $50K. And if it had a river of money flowing through the yard, I wouldn't have to work at all.

    6. Re:fat and rich by jhoger · · Score: 1

      To get $1.20 dividend, what's the share price of the stock? Let's say the yield is a relatively high 5%. So to yield $90K, that's $90,000/.05 = 1.8M. Hmm... that's pretty close to 2M, not 1M. With the volatility of the stock market I wouldn't count too heavily on capital gains after retirement.

      Personally I'd consider the "Money Problem" safely solved at $3M or $4M, and I wouldn't be heavily invested in the stock market. Government treasury bonds more likely. Once I make that $4M in retained earnings I'll be working on open source projects full time :-)

    7. Re:fat and rich by __aaqvdr516 · · Score: 1

      that's $50,000 per year. That used to be a starting California programmer's salary in the late 90's. I don't know about anyone else but I didn't feel rich. You definitely cannot support a family on that supposing he has one.

      That's so funny! That's about what I make! I have a mortgage, a car payment, a (disabled) wife, a child, and one on the way! So if by "definitely cannot support" you mean "absolutely can", I totally agree.

    8. Re:fat and rich by scubamage · · Score: 1

      Actually there are a surprising number of high dividend yield stocks which sell for relatively cheap. For instance, Fidelity has averaged about 15$ a share for the past year. If you were to sink a full million in, that would leave you with over 65,000 shares (obviously you'd have to find that many, but this is hypothetical). At 1.20$ per share thats an annual yield of close to 80,000$ from dividends alone (before taxes). Not massive, but easily something an average person could live on.

    9. Re:fat and rich by couchslug · · Score: 1

      "if he's made millions of dollars, can't he just move to a small island off the coast of Mexico and have young women make him ceviche, bring him beer, and blow him for the rest of his life?"

      Your ideas intrigue me and I would like to subscribe to your newsletter.

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    10. Re:fat and rich by SRA8 · · Score: 1

      OK, lets continue. $50k/year after taxes would be ~ 38k (if you live in a high tax state and/or city, even less.) Health insurance for a family is about $1000/mo if you aren't going through a group plan, so now you are down to $26k/year. (And this is all assuming you can actually get 5% yield consistently on your money.) Now, you can easily live on $26k in Charlotte NC or low-cost but still nice areas. There are even cute women if you are single. But forget NYC or SF ($70k is poverty level for living in NYC.)

    11. Re:fat and rich by Peter+Cooper · · Score: 1

      The point is, if you've reached a point where making a million dollars in a year isn't particularly difficult, you'd probably own your own home.

  4. Let me get this straight... by Poromenos1 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The site has brought in millions in advertising revenue, but there has been a hefty cost. Bloggers are complaining that making millions wasn't as easy as they'd like? Cry me a river...
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    1. Re:Let me get this straight... by garcia · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Bloggers are complaining that making millions wasn't as easy as they'd like? Cry me a river...

      I don't think that's the point they are trying to make. I think that what they were trying to get across was that blogging has become just as difficult to keep up with as traditional media but instead of having a team of researchers working around the clock to handle news feeds, fact checking, etc, you have less than a handful of people doing the work that used to take many many more.

    2. Re:Let me get this straight... by phyrz · · Score: 1, Informative

      if you are making millions, rent an office and hire some reporters. no sympathy here.

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    3. Re:Let me get this straight... by kv9 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      this is what happens when normal people start pretending to be geeks. the drama starts. I expect a FOX special report on this pretty soon. "Blogs: The Silent Killers of People Prone to Getting Fat After Sitting on Their Ass for a Long Time"

      I don't hear the Slashdot crew whining about reporting news for over 10 years. I guess they really like what they really do and don't feel the need for guilttripping themselves

    4. Re:Let me get this straight... by Overzeetop · · Score: 3, Insightful

      For that kind of money, he can rent an office, hire a staff (sounds like he has one), and be a real small business owner. Heck, most small companies (i.e. 5 employees) would kill to have a seven figure annual budget, and without physical inventory to turn, no less! Even more, blogging can be run from an $8/SF office space in a small town. Sure, there's lot of time and stress involved - welcome to the world of small businesses. You're growing or you're dying.

      I'd like to feel bad for him, but - as a small business owner with 5 employees and noticeably less than a million dollars in annual revenue - I just can't seem to get the tears going while I browse the 'net at lunch from my office.

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    5. Re:Let me get this straight... by MrShaggy · · Score: 2, Funny

      Next on Fox! "When reporters go wide!

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    6. Re:Let me get this straight... by paintswithcolour · · Score: 1
      If he hires more staff, gets a proper office etc. does he still get to be called a blogger? Or a news agency?

      It sounds a little like blogging is a commercial sham, they know its a bubble market, and live in terror that someone else might find out.

    7. Re:Let me get this straight... by Reziac · · Score: 1

      Which makes it sound sortof like spammers' similar complaints, except in this case, readers seek the spam rather than having it thrust upon them!

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    8. Re:Let me get this straight... by drsquare · · Score: 2, Insightful

      But bloggers copy most of their news from elsewhere anyway, so why do they need all those people?

    9. Re:Let me get this straight... by tomhudson · · Score: 2, Funny

      But bloggers copy most of their news from elsewhere anyway, so why do they need all those people?

      Because one blogger accidently copied his own shit and disappeared in an infinite loop.

  5. I wrote a poem about this once by bigsmoke · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I once wrote a rhyme about this. Maybe you'll like it: http://www.bigsmoke.us/bloggers-block/

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    1. Re:I wrote a poem about this once by DeadChobi · · Score: 1

      I just wanted to let you know that having a redirect to a smarmy, condescending tirade on how IE is the worst broswer known to man is a very bad way to get people to read your website. Especially if the person reading your website is using a computer which he has no control over. Perhaps, in the future, you will consider letting people choose which browser they use to access your website since it most likely consists of code which will render just fine in IE. Unless you do online banking or some other type of service which requires a lot of intricate security code you come off as arrogant when you place such an arbitrary barrier to entry on your website. I hope you'll consider this as the sarcastic tirade that it is.

      Yours truly.

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      SRSLY.
    2. Re:I wrote a poem about this once by Dutch+Gun · · Score: 1
      I launched the page in IE (I normally use FireFox) just to see that. Much more entertaining than the actual content.

      BTW, I thought this was the best part:

      Not only is IE insanely insecure, it doesn't even support the international web standards without which there would be no World Wide Web. Ironic, no? Complaining about W3 standards in a page that blocks users based on their choice of browser.
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    3. Re:I wrote a poem about this once by bigsmoke · · Score: 1

      Well, sorry but the page in question will just err in IE without the message. Hence the warning. :-) The best you'll get in IE is an XML tree because the document is served as application/xhtml+xml.

      I would have preferred to serve a properly negotiated 406 but IE uses a wild card in its default Accept header which makes the server believe that it supports anything.

      So, in short: the code does not render at all in IE. Sorry 'bout the insult. :-?

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    4. Re:I wrote a poem about this once by Fizzl · · Score: 1

      Sorry about dangling to this, but why, oh why did you hve such a weird choice of content formatting when that little riddle could have been easily presented in text/plain? (Except for the larger font for header)

    5. Re:I wrote a poem about this once by bigsmoke · · Score: 1

      Good point. :-) Let's say that this site is very much just a personal toy. ;-)

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      Morality is usually taught by the immoral.
  6. Also in the News by eldavojohn · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Writers Find Blogging To Be a Stressful Method of Reporting Readers Find Blogging To Be Most Ridiculous Form of Reporting News Yet

    Seriously, does anyone get their 'news' from blogs? Granted they can be interesting and helpful, they are often written with no editing and read more like "On the Road" than The New York Times.

    Congratulations on developing income through traffic but it pains me to see people use this as a way to stay informed.

    If you never leave your basement you're not reporting, you're aggregating or spinning.
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    My work here is dung.
    1. Re:Also in the News by Robert1 · · Score: 1

      I don't know anyone who gets their news from blogs. Not a soul. The only times I've ever seen people read them is when actual journalists from established news organizations are at some technology conference of some sort and post as it happens. I can't imagine using a blog or even several blogs as a replacement for the multitude of legitimate news organizations.

    2. Re:Also in the News by value_added · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Seriously, does anyone get their 'news' from blogs?

      I'm sure a small minority do (in the same way that some get their news from the John Stewart Show), but the real question is why those chanting Old Media is Dead haven't yet noticed that news comes from, and will continue to come from professional reporters. You know, the folks that took the time to study journalism and are typically employed by newspapers, news organisations, and a dwindling number of media companies that can still afford them?

      Granted they can be interesting and helpful ...

      Indeed. They do have a contribution to make, but usually that's in the form of commentary, added background or trivia, or even some personal insight. At their best they also provide links to some authoritive reporting, and at worst, incestuous links to other blogs.

      Bloggers complaining about stress should visit a real news room. They might discover that the act of reporting (or the writing part of it) is a lot harder than sitting in a Starbucks with a Mac waxing poetic while contemplating current events.

    3. Re:Also in the News by mmurphy000 · · Score: 1

      Granted they can be interesting and helpful, they are often written with no editing and read more like "On the Road" than The New York Times.

      On a related note, you're missing a "but" or "however" after the comma, highlighting that even the best of us have the occasional problem with grammar. You do get bonus points for citing Kerouac and for capitalizing "The" in "The New York Times" — up until researching it just now, I wouldn't have guessed that "The" is actually part of the newspaper's name.

      If you never leave your basement you're not reporting, you're aggregating or spinning.

      Or, perhaps, just maybe, adding some value. For example, one could be analyzing, to augment some lightly-sourced corporate (a.k.a., "mainstream") media piece with additional data to augment or refute the original. Or one could be researching new material from "your basement" via interviews, polls, and the like. And, of course, one person's "spinning" is another person's "displaying another perspective" — personally, I tend to reserve the term "spinning" when it involves lying or masquerading the truth.

      Do all bloggers do this? Heck no, no more than do all Slashdot posters. It varies by blogger and by subject matter. For that matter, not all #$*($#)@ reporters do a quality job. Too much stuff winds up in print or on TV that is merely regurgitating a PR piece or other slanted bit of original writing.

      All sources of information, whether from corporate-backed outlets or from individual bloggers, come as both wheat and chaff. What the world needs is more experience in telling one from the other.

    4. Re:Also in the News by schnikies79 · · Score: 1

      It's all in the ratios.

      Lets say for argument sake that 1 in every 4 professional reporters are crap, that might be a little low (lets even say it's 1 out of 2) but I'm just making a point. With blogs, about 1 in 50 is half-way solid and the rest is complete and absolute garbage. It's probably more along the lines of 1 in 100.

      The signal to noise ratio makes blogs worthless. Even if you know where to look.

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    5. Re:Also in the News by Oligonicella · · Score: 1

      "The signal to noise ratio makes blogs worthless. Even if you know where to look."

      Which means, of course, you're missing some of the finest on the ground reporting coming out of the Middle East, for instance. The Mesopotamian, Iraq The Model and Micheal's Yon and Totton. No MSM reporting holds a candle.

    6. Re:Also in the News by jollyreaper · · Score: 1

      Seriously, does anyone get their 'news' from blogs? Where exactly do you think you're posting right now?
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    7. Re:Also in the News by DeadChobi · · Score: 1

      I met someone who did use blogs as a way to get updates in science news at an open forum. I couldn't resist pointing out that blogs typically get their news from other blogs who get their news from other blogs who get their news from legitimate news organizations.

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      SRSLY.
    8. Re:Also in the News by DeadChobi · · Score: 1

      This isn't a blog, it's a news aggregation site with a message board. The difference is that the aggregator links directly to the source instead of just writing about what's going on. Oh, and they're honest about being an aggregator.

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      SRSLY.
    9. Re:Also in the News by dave1791 · · Score: 1

      I've got an RSS pull of Arringtonâ(TM)s blog. About every tenth article is worth more than a headline scan for me, but I can see where it has its place. Tech crunch is basically where start-ups pimp their stuff. Arrington writes glowing reviews of web2.0 thingees and his 50k or so readers run off to sign up. In short, if you just have to attach twitter to your mobile phone, then you probably read his blog. The thing is, blogs make good subject specific grapevines for niche markets. Arrington market is too small to be served by a traditional trade rag and his blog acts as a micro news bureau.

      A hobby of mine is MMO/MUDS/Persistent Worlds; specifically designing homebrew, community worlds. Therefore, I read a few MMO design related blogs. The community of bloggers that comments on virtual worlds design includes Damian Schubert, Raph Koster and a boatload of amateurs. These blogs sum up to essay form conversations between amateurs and professionals; the kind of thing that used to happen on the mud-dev mailing list.

    10. Re:Also in the News by dave1791 · · Score: 1

      geez... that formatting got messed up. Considering that I can't just post blind anymore, I should catch these things... /sigh

    11. Re:Also in the News by saitoh · · Score: 1

      Couple of things:

      1) I agree with you that it's sad that people use blogs as a source of real information. People who don't have any formal training or education in journalism sometimes miss how to construct a story in a manner that does not lead the reader in a certain bias-direction (hell, some journalists miss that as well, a journalist I know complains, it seems perpetually, about this). Grammar, spelling, factual presentation. These are things that people seem to be willing to trade in search of a faster availability or other reasons.

      2) Unfortunately there are occasions that I fall into that category. This is (in my case) due to a large segment of our local and tertiary news/happenings going unreported by our daily paper in town (The Times-Dispatch in Richmond or the "Times-Disgrace" as many people call it). What I use to augment the T-D is the local blogs for the various neighborhoods/wards in town. They are not my main source of information for local news, but there are times when they are my only source for a particular piece of information.

      We have a very active blog group in Richmond which was born out of funding from a grant a number of years ago. Some of the oldest have turned into real groups where decisions at council meetings are impacted as a result of getting the word out about a regulation or rezoning that could affect the area.

      Ref: http://fdhub.net/richmond-a-hotbed-of-citizen-journalism/ (ironically a blog, but it contains somewhat legit links that I'm too lazy to comb through)

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  7. Why not just stop? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If it's that big a problem just stop and get a normal job, or, if you've really made millions in revenue pay someone to do the stressful stuff for you.

    Is it really so hard? Have I missed something here?

  8. Bloggers need better technology by elucido · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Bloggers need both better technologies and better business models so that people can make a decent income blogging. It's a decent career but there's just not enough money in it yet to make it worth the pain and stress. We need alternative business models to increase the value of the blogsphere. Anyone got ideas?

    1. Re:Bloggers need better technology by anomalous+cohort · · Score: 2, Insightful

      It's a decent career but there's just not enough money in it yet to make it worth the pain and stress. We need alternative business models to increase the value of the blogsphere. Anyone got ideas?

      Content may be king but in this world, that content is user supplied and nearly anonymous. In order to make money off of content, you either have to be in the distribution side or form a cult of personality. In other words, build brand. In viral fashion, I have blogged on this.

    2. Re:Bloggers need better technology by philicorda · · Score: 1

      Why don't they do their blogging live, in the form of public speeches?

      Then they could charge people to attend, and also make money off merchandise and selling drinks and snacks.

      I mean, people expect other content producers to do this, why not bloggers as well?

  9. i hate to repeat the above posts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Do something else. There is NO REASON to kill yourself over something that most people have no respect for anyway.

    Even most people with internet don't read/trust/use blogs, including myself.

    Seriously, fucking do something else.

  10. 8 solutions by tomhudson · · Score: 2, Funny

    he has gained 30 pounds in the last three years, ,,, This is not sustainable,'

    [_] Go hunting with Dick Cheney - problem solved!
    [_] Dude! If you've gained 30 pounds, sustenance isn't your problem. More like "sustenance abuse."
    [_] Get a bigger chair - it'll sustain your additional weight.
    [_] Get up and go for a walk. There's a reason the dot-com boom had lots of dogs in offices - it forced people to get up and walk their dogs! This got them away from their computers for a bit, so that when they came back, they were refreshed, and more productive.
    [_] Set your site up as Yahoo!'s "ugly sister" for when Microsoft is looking for more "sustenance".
    [_] More typeing and less eating.
    [_] Move to a real office instead of working from home - or LOCK THE FRIDGE!
    [_] Profit from it - start a blog about how blogging makes you fat. Lots of fat people will then take up blogging, as their "excuse" for being fattarded wankers.

    1. Re:8 solutions by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Fattarded wankers FTW!

  11. You're going alone? by Aaron_Pike · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Could it be that blogging is not a solo sport?

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  13. I do: by Overzeetop · · Score: 1

    Learn to live on less than a million dollars a year. That would free up some of that income to capitalize the infrastructure.

    --
    Is it just my observation, or are there way too many stupid people in the world?
  14. Some cheese with that whine? by Dutch+Gun · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Bloggers talk incessantly about blogging... News at 11:00!

    I get a bit tired of people who complain about their job or life, yet never take the steps necessary to alleviate the cause of said complaints. It's your life. Take some responsibility for it. Exercise more. Take a well-needed vacation (and leave the damn computer at home)! Spend some quality time with family and friends. I'll bet that when you look back at your life, you won't regret spending a bit less time at the computer, staring at updating blogs.

    I also tire of how certain media industries talk about themselves as relevant news... I see this happen in the mainstream media all the time (stories about the media), and I find it somewhat annoying. Blogging has the same sort of problem - many bloggers talk incessantly about blogging and other bloggers, since that's the topic they know best.

    --
    Irony: Agile development has too much intertia to be abandoned now.
  15. got enough adverts there, bud? by v1 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Close to 50% of the page space is ads. Very slow loading ads. And annoying javascript popups. Just start moving your mouse around and hover-triggered popups start going off like landmines.

    How can people stand to go there on a regular basis?

    --
    I work for the Department of Redundancy Department.
    1. Re:got enough adverts there, bud? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Close to 50% of the page space is ads. Very slow loading ads. And annoying javascript popups. Just start moving your mouse around and hover-triggered popups start going off like landmines.

      How can people stand to go there on a regular basis?

      Adblock Plus and NoScript, perhaps?
    2. Re:got enough adverts there, bud? by tomhudson · · Score: 1

      Close to 50% of the page space is ads. Very slow loading ads. And annoying javascript popups. Just start moving your mouse around and hover-triggered popups start going off like landmines.

      How can people stand to go there on a regular basis?

      Try this as a simple answer - people don't - or if they do, they don't go back; thus most of his traffic is probably bots or other bloggers doing a circle jerk.

    3. Re:got enough adverts there, bud? by Reziac · · Score: 1

      "Bloggers have learned all they know from reading one another."

      (Apologies to Jack Vance... the original was about critics, but bloggers are much the same thing.)

      --
      ~REZ~ #43301. Who'd fake being me anyway?
  16. Awww diddums... by Colin+Smith · · Score: 1

    There is a simple solution... Do something else...

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  17. Telecommuting is good for business, and us. by elucido · · Score: 1


    Overall I look forward to making money by telecommuting and working from home. Nothing good comes from getting dressed up each morning to go to work and be around people I probably don't care to be around in the first place.

    However, blogging has to actually be making people rich. If a site is bringing in millions in ad revenue, and the individual blogger guy is making under $100,000 a year, of course somethings wrong with that.

    Now, if you make $100,000 a year working from your home, yes it's worth having a nervous breakdown over, but if you make $30,000, then hell no it's not.

    Ideally, bloggers should just get a portion of the ad revenue and get rich along with the website. Either way, if this guy gained 30lbs it's not because of his career, it's because he refused to exercise and eat right.

    If a guy gains 30lbs, and is psychologically stressed out, maybe this guy should become a fireman or construction worker where he can do hard labor every day. And if being a blogger is oo stressful maybe he should go to Iraq and fight for his country.

    Seriously, this article looks to me like a lot of whining. Most people have more difficult jobs than his job. Now, my post is not all about insulting the person in the article. I'll explain my intentions below:

    A. Increase the value of bloggers and the telecommuting community (we should all be able to work from home!)

    B. Maximize the amount of money telecommuters can make.

    I think these should be the two goals of the telecommuting community. Maximize growth and income potential, and increase the value of telecommuting to society overall.

    Getting dressed up to go to work should be a thing of the past. It's better for roads, it's better for the environment. It's healthier, because the average person can be more productive from home than they are going to work, because at work someone can have the flu and infect everyone.

    If you are a libertarian, telecommuting increases your sense of freedom and thus your quality of life. Why do you want to be micromanaged by a boss? The main two concerns are maximizing the amount of money which bloggers make (through technological design, activism, bloggers unions and guilds etc), and maximizing the overall value of the blogsphere and of industries which support the telecommuter community.

    1. Re:Telecommuting is good for business, and us. by iamhigh · · Score: 1

      Really? It seems that would increase the cost of moving the cylinders from workcenter to workcenter... unless we bought those $1M machines for each workcenter for each employee's house.

      Not all of use produce things so easily transported.

      And these are airplane cylinders... not cars. So ease up on the circular logic.

      --
      No comprende? Let me type that a little slower for you...
    2. Re:Telecommuting is good for business, and us. by tomhudson · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Just one minor nit to pick:

      Getting dressed up to go to work should be a thing of the past.

      Part of the problem with many people working from home is it "doesn't feel like work", so they slack off. They work in their kitchen instead of a dedicated room / home office. They use the same computer for work and fun. They slack off on their personal appearance. Etc. Etc.

      Getting dressed instead of sitting in your undies is part of the mental preparation for "Now I'm going to work!" I don't know how many times, when I was working from home, people would call and assume that I had all this "free time". I'd usually let them talk for a minute or two, but if it went longer, I'd tell them to call me at night - I'm working and don't want to "lose the momentum | thought | zone | whatever".

      They'd be miffed the first few times.

    3. Re:Telecommuting is good for business, and us. by schnikies79 · · Score: 1

      First off, I'm a chemist and don't have access to $500k worth of equipment at home, so I couldn't telecommute if I wanted to, but even if I could, why?

      I don't want to be at home all the time. I like to leave the house and I'm generally not productive when at home. I go to work to be at work and I go home to be at home. I would rather never mix the two.

      --
      Gone!
    4. Re:Telecommuting is good for business, and us. by cbart387 · · Score: 1

      That makes sense, I can see how it would be harder to get 'into the zone' otherwise.

      Telecommuting (at least for me) got tedious, doing it on a regular basis. Two summers ago I telecommuted from home for my undergraduate job. It was nice the first couple weeks but it gets old really fast not having coworkers to chitchat, go for coffee runs, etc. It's nice in short spurts, especially if you have to hunker down to get a project done. I wouldn't like doing so as my regular job.

      --
      Lack of planning on your part does not constitute an emergency on mine.
    5. Re:Telecommuting is good for business, and us. by elucido · · Score: 1


      Then they should work retail or some public service job where they have to be dressed up all the time.

      I prefer it when my work feels like play. I don't want to get all worky and dress worky to feel like I'm working. And a lot of people like me really would rather work long hours and perhaps never stop working than to go through rituals every day, including the ritual of being late for work, or needing a cup of coffee in the morning, or putting on the tie and all the bullshit that has nothing to do with the actual work.

      I guess it's a preference, your point is taken.

    6. Re:Telecommuting is good for business, and us. by tomhudson · · Score: 1

      I'm not saying you have to go the "suit and tie" route, but a lot of people get too easily distracted when they're not able to divide their time between work and non-work.

      For many coders, it's different. I know I'm more productive at home than in the office, because I don't need the rituals - "office stuff" just keeps you from "getting into the zone" too many times. The ideal would probably be a "split" - a half-day, once or twice a week, at the office, and the rest as "organize yourself, keep in touch, and if you have a problem, here's everyone else's contact info | email | chat".

      If you enjoy solving problems with code, you'll be like Charlton Heston - "you can have my keyboard when you pry it from my cold dead hands." You won't need the routines to "get you into it" - and you'll still enjoy it 25 years later.

      If the problem-solving aspect doesn't really appeal to you that much, you'll be "up or out" in a decade. The problem is - what to do with those who want to go "up" instead of "out", or how to capture and use the knowledge they've accumulated? Hence the cubicle farms and project managers and reports, etc.

      I guess what I'm saying is that perhaps we need a new style of project management that allows individual coders to telecommute much more, while allowing the people with the "more senior knowledge" to stay in touch, help, motivate, etc.

      For example, instead of telecommuting being an either | or (either you're at home, or you're at the office), why not fix it so that 1 or 2 workers can also meet up at each others' homes once in a while to thrash out a key piece of code on their laptops? It's not like we don't all have high-speed internet, etc., or (hopefully) backups.

      With the low cost of hardware, and so much free software around, there's no reason why every dev can't have a home server to play with, and sync their repository with the office once in a while.

    7. Re:Telecommuting is good for business, and us. by WaltherPPK · · Score: 1

      Not only does getting "dressed for work" mentally prepare a person to actually get down to business, it also symbolizes the development of that person as a whole. Whether or not your job constitutes public appearance, the effort you put into your appearance reflects on your personality. If you are unwilling to look presentable for work, it can give the appearance to others that you are not likely to put in the effort elsewhere in your work.

      While there are exceptions, as with everything, I've generally found that harder, more effective workers at school or work are also more effective and productive in other avenues of their lives. This effectiveness shows in how they organize their personal space and how they maintain their own appearance.

      So, congratulations to those who can make a lot of money being slobs at home. It's not a "sacrifice" to your work to put on 30 pounds and convert your home to an office. Nor is it a concession to the difficulty of your work that you can't otherwise maintain your appearance. If life is so tough, and "not sustainable", find a job you can sustain instead of blogging about how terrible your blogging job has made your life.

      Regarding the phone calls while working from home - why not get a business phone line? Don't give it to your friends. Shut off the home phone when you're "at work" and answer the personal messages later. Let your friends be miffed at the answering machine.

    8. Re:Telecommuting is good for business, and us. by tomhudson · · Score: 1

      Regarding the phone calls while working from home - why not get a business phone line? Don't give it to your friends. Shut off the home phone when you're "at work" and answer the personal messages later. Let your friends be miffed at the answering machine.

      Friends understood after a while that just because I was at home, it didn't mean I wasn't working. I figured it was better to educate them than to erect barriers. On the other hand, I want my daughters to always feel free to call me any time, even at 3 in the morning. They might be adults, but they'll always be my kids ...

    9. Re:Telecommuting is good for business, and us. by mgblst · · Score: 1

      I do the opposite. My only computer (with net) is at work, so I do all my goofing of at work, and now my work is starting to suffer (not really).

  18. hmmm.... by SohCahToa · · Score: 0

    There should be a blog about how stressful blogs are for writers.

    1. Re:hmmm.... by tomhudson · · Score: 1

      There should be a blog about how stressful blogs are for writers.

      Yeah, but only fat bloggers would read them ...

      (hey, sounds like a new meme)

  19. This is a typical case of self control by Overzeetop · · Score: 3, Insightful

    If you are a blogger, set your hours. Sure, you'll violate them once in a while (I'm posting from work on a Sunday...I'm in a crunch time in my business - it happens). But seriously, if you don't post for 14 hours a day, the world will not stop. Provided that you have people to do the shifts to keep the information flowing, people will not abandon the blog forever. Taco doesn't spend 20 hours a day posting dupes - he's hired people to do that.

    This isn't really about blogging, it's about small business. Small, one man shops really are a drain on your life. You fear that if you close too early or open too late you'll miss that one big customer. Until you get big enough to spread the load, that will be the case.

    A note for bloggers - you might want to move. There were two in that story - one in SF, one (I believe) in NY. Note: you're bloggers, nobody cares where you live and you can source from anywhere in the (US/NA/World). Based on the "all day and night at the keyboard" comments, these folks aren't getting their inside scoops from wandering the streets of the big technology cities. Might I suggest somewhere inexpensive, somewhere relaxing from which to blog. Make it within 100 miles of an airline hub if you do a lot of conferences. Office space in small towns is often $8/SF (per year) or less, and really good housing is actually affordable on 40k-50k/yr.

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    Is it just my observation, or are there way too many stupid people in the world?
  20. He's got it easy. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Troll

    Mike's got it easy. I own a small business, with six employees. We do Flash games, web development, and other custom software projects. On Friday I wasn't feeling so well. A bit of the flu, I suppose. Regardless of my health, our work must go on. So there the entire company was, sitting in our 10x10 meeting room with two representatives from one of our larger clients. In short, I shit my pants. It wasn't a solid shit, either. It was diarrhea that ended up dripping down my legs onto my shoes, and then onto the carpet. And in a meeting room as small as ours, packed with nine people in it, it isn't an enjoyable experience. Needless to say, the reps from our client were not impressed. And tomorrow I get to deal with the repercussions of the whole ordeal. Since I clean our office (we can't afford a cleaning firm), I'll probably get to clean up the now-dried stool that has no doubt been sitting there all weekend.

    1. Re:He's got it easy. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Thanks for sharing.

  21. work shifts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This is not sustainable

    Not sustainable? I beg to differ.

    The companies have been racing to produce as much as possible in the shortest time possible since the beginning of industrial revolution.

    First mover advantage is obviously very significant in this industry of information delivery. Which is why you need to build in redundancy and share workload as well as rewards with others.

    Simple but effective solution: divide the day into shifts, and have people work several shifts to overlap and update those just beginning their work day.

  22. This is why you have lots of writers at newspapers by HockeyPuck · · Score: 1

    DUH.

    Blog - 1 man newspaper.

    So of course if he and his 4 man team aren't writing content people aren't getting anything new. Traditional printed material (and their online versions) have lots of authors writing so if one writer (say in sports) goes on vacation someone else is there to tell me the Yankee's blew it again.

    I also wonder what percentage of bloggers actually do field research (ie: get away from the computer) rather than using online only resources.

  23. No, you are wrong about that, money talks by elucido · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Assuming a risk-free rate of 5% that's $50,000 per year. That used to be a starting California programmer's salary in the late 90's. I don't know about anyone else but I didn't feel rich. You definitely cannot support a family on that supposing he has one. You most certainly can, as long as you own your own home (no rent or mortgage to pay) and you live in the 99.9% of the world that isn't Manhattan or SF :) Heck, my family's expenses are far less than that and we pay a mortgage and live well.

    The greed behind thinking "I *must* make $100k+ to survive" is one of the many factors sending this industry down the toilet. Every blogger should want to make $100k. It's good for the internet economy and for the blogging community if bloggers make $100k and up. Doctors, Lawyers, CEO's and other professions make over $100k, and I don't see you saying "It's because those Lawyers make over $100k that the legal system is going down the toilet."

    The more money you have coming in, the better off you'll be, it's that simple, and if you want to live cheap, then you probably wont be able to afford private school for your kids, and you might not be able to afford the best medical treatments or the best healthcare plan.

    And let's be realistic, if you are single, most of the good women prefer a man who makes over $100k vs a man living in the middle of nowhere making $30k.

    What kinda man do most dads tell their daughters to go for? The Lawyer, the Doctor, the CEO, the very sorta man who just happens to be making over $100k.
    1. Re:No, you are wrong about that, money talks by Overzeetop · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Doctors, Lawyers, CEO's and other professions make over $100k Congratulations, we've finally identified that professions with high barriers to entry (intelligence, schooling, well placed parents, etc.) make higher salaries. Blogging requires, um, a keyboard and an ability to type. Oh, sure, there are probably PhDs out there blogging. Okay, okay, I'm kidding - I sincerely doubt it - unless they were useless in their fields to begin with.

      I'll agree with you that they should all strive to make six figures, but the reality is that the supply far exceeds the demand, and the talent pool is relatively shallow on average. I know people working just as hard, for just as many hours, usually at multiple jobs, to barely make ends meet. They do it because they don't have the training or ability to perform work that has a higher value in society. Heck, I could make more as a doctor or a lawyer, but I really like being an engineer and I spent my college money to become one.

      As for finding a mate, they one's who are primarily interested in the size of your wallet are much more likely to leave you if that wallet ever deflates. I recommend finding one who would marry you if you lost every penny you had in the world. You'll be a lot happier than if you make $100k and had someone who constantly griped about not having enough money to live the way he or she likes.
      --
      Is it just my observation, or are there way too many stupid people in the world?
    2. Re:No, you are wrong about that, money talks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      What kinda man do most dads tell their daughters to go for? The Lawyer, the Doctor, the CEO, the very sorta man who just happens to be making over $100k.

      Well, these happen to be the same parents that had SEVERAL exorcisms performed on my girlfriend's autistic brother. And on HER for that matter, after she tried to kill herself because everyone told her her entire childhood she was going to hell becuase she would do stuff like go off into the woods and catch lizards when she was at Jesus Camp rather than listen to the propaganda the counselers shit out 5 times daily.

      So I try not to stick my junk in anybody who takes advice from those people all too seriously.
    3. Re:No, you are wrong about that, money talks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "It's because those Lawyers make over $100k that the legal system is going down the toilet."

      That was easy!

    4. Re:No, you are wrong about that, money talks by Belial6 · · Score: 1

      While I cannot say they don't exist, there certainly are not enough women that don't date and marry for money to go around. Your advice is about as good as telling a kid he should be a pro football player when he grows up. It is possible, and there are lots of examples of it happening, but you are going to end up with a lot more failures than successes if even small percentage of the boys go for it.

    5. Re:No, you are wrong about that, money talks by tomhudson · · Score: 1

      Blogging requires, um, a keyboard and an ability to type.

      The "ability to type" is purely optional. Cut-n-paste from [ other blogs | teh InnerToobs | whatever ] seems to be the norm.

      Scratch a blogger, find a copyright violator.

    6. Re:No, you are wrong about that, money talks by cyphercell · · Score: 1

      "Oh, sure, there are probably PhDs out there blogging. Okay, okay, I'm kidding - I sincerely doubt it - unless they were useless in their fields to begin with."

      Holy crap, that's a mean thing to say. Maybe, some of these PhDs are useful in their field because they are a blogger. Shit man, almost everyone in the tech industry has an online presence of some sort somewhere. Many of them, I'm sure, consider themselves professional bloggers regardless of the amount of income they might derive from the status.

      As for finding a mate, they one's who are primarily interested in the size of your wallet are much more likely to leave you if that wallet ever deflates.

      I think this is a little unfair also. I prefer a woman that works, doesn't mean I'll leave her if she CAN'T work. You're talking about something like a trophy wife or a whore (not that either trophy wives or whores are necessarily this brittle). Many women will stick with the man that made the money, simply because he proved himself worthy of that pay and can probably do it again.

      Also, if you look into the nature of things, "financial problems" are listed as one of the most common causes of divorce. This means I'll be telling both my kids that they shouldn't settle down until they make about 1.5-3 times local minimum wage (works for my area), and I'll tell them to look for someone that makes about the same, then I'll explain that only one of each couple can be unemployed at a time. It's called redundancy, combined with living below your means and an investment strategy, you can almost live out the American dream or even one-up the damned dream.

      --
      Under the influence of Post-Cyberpunk Gonzo Journalism
    7. Re:No, you are wrong about that, money talks by proxima · · Score: 4, Informative

      Oh, sure, there are probably PhDs out there blogging. Okay, okay, I'm kidding - I sincerely doubt it - unless they were useless in their fields to begin with.

      Actually, there are quite a few PhDs out there blogging. They are hardly "useless in their fields", at least the ones I read; they tend to be some of the more high profile people (and the blogs simply give them an even higher profile). Two cases in point for economics: Greg Mankiw's blog and Marginal Revolution, a blog by two George Mason profs with occasional guest bloggers.

      Blogging is actually fairly amenable to the goal of many academics: to share information and debate about it. The biggest downside that I see is that blogging is fairly time consuming. Mankiw turned off comments to his blog because he didn't have time to moderate them, so his blog became more of a one-way street.

      Of course, econ is just one field; I honestly don't know how prevalent blogging is in other fields.
      --
      "The universe seems neither benign nor hostile, merely indifferent." --Carl Sagan
    8. Re:No, you are wrong about that, money talks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh, sure, there are probably PhDs out there blogging. Okay, okay, I'm kidding - I sincerely doubt it - unless they were useless in their fields to begin with. http://www.cosmicvariance.com/

      No comment...

    9. Re:No, you are wrong about that, money talks by Oligonicella · · Score: 1

      "Oh, sure, there are probably PhDs out there blogging. Okay, okay, I'm kidding - I sincerely doubt it - unless they were useless in their fields to begin with."

      You sir, are a pompous idiot. There are plenty of PhDs blogging. Doctors, physicists, constitutional lawyers and others. You lead a sheltered blog life.

    10. Re:No, you are wrong about that, money talks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh, sure, there are probably PhDs out there blogging. Okay, okay, I'm kidding - I sincerely doubt it - unless they were useless in their fields to begin with

      You are very closed minded.

    11. Re:No, you are wrong about that, money talks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You do understand that the parent was referring to blogging not as a hobby, but rather as the primary source of income, right?

      Talk about missing the point.

    12. Re:No, you are wrong about that, money talks by jollyreaper · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Congratulations, we've finally identified that professions with high barriers to entry (intelligence, schooling, well placed parents, etc.) make higher salaries. Blogging requires, um, a keyboard and an ability to type. Oh, sure, there are probably PhDs out there blogging. Okay, okay, I'm kidding - I sincerely doubt it - unless they were useless in their fields to begin with. Yeah, and all painters require is some oils and canvas, anyone can paint, right? Heh. There's a world of difference between what I could make pushing paint across a canvas vs. someone who knows what he's doing. The same goes for writing. There's low financial barriers to entry but there's a huge barrier when it comes to your chops. Stand-up comedians don't even need a keyboard, the microphone is provided by the house. Think anyone can do it and make money at it? Heh, think again. You have to be really, really funny to make it in that business, or be Jerry Seinfeld. (Yes, I said it, I don't think he's funny. Watch the rest of the world disagree with me.)
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      Kwisatz Haderach
      Sell the spice to CHOAM
      This Mahdi took Shaddam's Throne
    13. Re:No, you are wrong about that, money talks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In your haste to identify an error, you've totally missed the point. Yeah, there are PhDs who blog. Do they make it their profession? Not the ones you linked- they have real jobs.

    14. Re:No, you are wrong about that, money talks by sorak · · Score: 1

      Doctors, Lawyers, CEO's and other professions make over $100k Congratulations, we've finally identified that professions with high barriers to entry (intelligence, schooling, well placed parents, etc.) make higher salaries. Blogging requires, um, a keyboard and an ability to type. Oh, sure, there are probably PhDs out there blogging. Okay, okay, I'm kidding - I sincerely doubt it - unless they were useless in their fields to begin with. Um...P.Z. Meyers, Phil Plait (the Bad Astronomer), Dr. Steven Novella (NeuroLogica)...Those three exceptions just came to mind.

    15. Re:No, you are wrong about that, money talks by darthflo · · Score: 1

      There's a world of difference between what I could make pushing paint across a canvas vs. someone who knows what he's doing.
      Ever heard of abstract modern art?
    16. Re:No, you are wrong about that, money talks by Peter+Cooper · · Score: 1

      While I cannot say they don't exist, there certainly are not enough women that don't date and marry for money to go around. Where do you live? This sounds like something someone stuck in a bubble either around LA or Manhattan would say. It's a mythical generalism at best. I'd wager that 99% of the world's female population don't date and marry "for money," (especially since most Western women now have their own career plans anyway) and since there are generally more women than men on the planet, there are plenty to "go around."

      Having a man who isn't a complete waste of space IS important, of course, but money is only one indicator of that. Intelligence (literal and emotional), looks, personality, social connectivity, and health/body are all more popular for women to respond to when choosing a mate (especially the latter).
    17. Re:No, you are wrong about that, money talks by Otter · · Score: 1
      Um...P.Z. Meyers, Phil Plait (the Bad Astronomer), Dr. Steven Novella (NeuroLogica)...Those three exceptions just came to mind.

      I can't evaluate an astronomer's productivity, but a look at PubMed certainly suggests that "useless in their fields" is a pretty good description of the other two. (As far as research goes, anyway, although Novella's location would imply that he's at least a good physician.) What makes you think otherwise?

    18. Re:No, you are wrong about that, money talks by sorak · · Score: 1

      Um...P.Z. Meyers, Phil Plait (the Bad Astronomer), Dr. Steven Novella (NeuroLogica)...Those three exceptions just came to mind.

      I can't evaluate an astronomer's productivity, but a look at PubMed certainly suggests that "useless in their fields" is a pretty good description of the other two. (As far as research goes, anyway, although Novella's location would imply that he's at least a good physician.) What makes you think otherwise?

      What makes you think the number of papers published is a good indicator of "usefulness"? If someone decides that they would rather teach, work in the field, actively promote science to the public, or write a daily blog, then does that make them useless? If you want to make that claim, you really should find something they have gotten wrong.

    19. Re:No, you are wrong about that, money talks by Overzeetop · · Score: 1

      I'm sorry you missed the implied humor. Then again, we're not talking about people who blog "on the side," but rather about people who blog 18-20 hours a day as their JOB. Of course there are bloggers who are PhDs, but I would still say that you would find their numbers, as a percentage of the professional bloggers for whom blogging is their _only_ profession and at which they spend more than 18 hours a day trying to keep up with the news stories a diminishingly small fraction.

      Or, did you perhaps not read the f'n article before posting?

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  24. So what else is new? by plopez · · Score: 3, Insightful

    A number of professions live under the 'publish or perish' gun. University professors, freelance journalists, freelance photographers, ad copy writers, script writes etc.

    Nothing to see here, move along....

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    putting the 'B' in LGBTQ+
  25. What nonsense by gelfling · · Score: 1

    95% of all 'professional' blogging is bloggers quoting and pasting other bloggers, to either agree violently with them or talk shit about them.

    1. Re:What nonsense by tomhudson · · Score: 1

      95% of all 'professional' blogging is bloggers quoting and pasting other bloggers, to either agree violently with them or talk shit about them.

      And the other 5% is "google is ..."

      Get them together and get ready to puke. I have NEVER seen a group more obsessed over PageRank, google, and "recognition".

    2. Re:What nonsense by Reziac · · Score: 1

      And since they all do so incessently, there is SO much shit to quote and paste, the work never ends!!

      --
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    3. Re:What nonsense by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've been to a few political conferences in DC that gave out "blogger" passes -- mostly to a bunch of snot-nosed little brats wo didn't look as if they had ever followed a train of throught through to its logical conclusion in their lives.

      How "blogging" has now become a "job," when in the past people with livejournals were either goth, gay, or something else that entitled them to an ass-kicking by the same people who now read this shit is beyond me.

      Bloggs need to die.

  26. You're a naive idealist. by elucido · · Score: 1

    Learn to live on less than a million dollars a year. That would free up some of that income to capitalize the infrastructure. The global economy is never going to be fair or become more efficient. The strong(rich) always exploit the weak (poor), and the only thing you can do is make sure you aren't the weak(poor) by trying to make as much money as you can make in your lifetime.

    I don't know about you, but I want my time to be worth the absolute maximum amount of money possible. I value my time, and I love my life, and I don't want to waste my time and my life making somebody else rich. I want to make myself rich.

    And women prefer powerful men. If you want a "good" woman, assuming you don't have one already, having money and power helps, unless you plan on being a fireman, cop, or work for a non profit and then perhaps you get women through status. But the simple fact is, the more money you make, the better able you are to protect your wife and kids.

    Proof? Look at Africa, no money, and as a result no security. Look at this country, look in the ghettos and trailer parks, no money = no security. The more money you have, the more security you have, because society decides our worth by our salary.

    Don't you think you're worth more than this?
    1. Re:You're a naive idealist. by CableModemSniper · · Score: 1

      So, um don't be a blogger. Get into a profession where you can make a ton of money and not be tearing your hair out from stress. If the goal is to get money, don't lock yourself in a box by saying, "I have to be a blogger, so to make sure I make oodles of cash safely, let's fix blogging."

      --
      Why not fork?
    2. Re:You're a naive idealist. by elucido · · Score: 1


      Well yeah if you don't like being a blogger and can do something else, then why blog?

      But if you like being a blogger, and it's the main thing you are good at, then you better fight to protect your turf.

    3. Re:You're a naive idealist. by Miseph · · Score: 1

      Hate to burst your bubble, but no woman I would describe as "good" is more attracted to a guy with money than, say, a guy who's likeable and isn't a douche. At least I give you credit for observing the warped nature of our social values, though I'm perplexed by your apparent embrace of it and exhortations to participate in a clearly unfair system.

      To each his own, I suppose.

      --
      Try not to take me more seriously than I take myself.
    4. Re:You're a naive idealist. by esper · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I want my time to be worth the absolute maximum amount of money possible. I value my time, and I love my life, and I don't want to waste my time and my life making somebody else rich.

      I'm with you so far...

      I want to make myself rich. ...but we diverge here.

      I want my time to be worth as much as possible not so I can be rich, but so I can live comfortably while selling as little of my time as possible because "I value my time... and I don't want to waste my time and my life".

      Given the opportunity to work as much as I like at $2500/day (and, yes, I have worked at that rate, though not consistently), I would prefer to work 40 days/year and make $100k rather than 5 days/week every week to get the $650k or so that works out to. I can live more than comfortably on $100k, including plenty of room for saving for leaner times, so why waste my time and my life to build up a pile of cash that I have no actual use for?

    5. Re:You're a naive idealist. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hate to burst your bubble, but no woman I would describe as "good" is more attracted to a guy with money than, say, a guy who's likeable and isn't a douche.
      I agree: she's equally attracted to both. If the likeable non-douche guy also has the same amount of money, he has a leg up. Very very few women would like a guy without any money regardless of employment status. "Got no money? Got no car? Got no woman, and there you are." Money dries up and the woman (no matter how good she seemed) will take a walk.

      At least I give you credit for observing the warped nature of our social values, though I'm perplexed by your apparent embrace of it and exhortations to participate in a clearly unfair system.
      I think the GP participates because what else is there? One either participates in society... or not. Perhaps one can find a likeable non-douche woman who doesn't require as much money as others, and heaven forbid, can budget her money.

      No one wants to hear that. But it's the truth. I'm writing as AC because people won't believe it until it's too late (if they ever wake up to it).

    6. Re:You're a naive idealist. by Zerth · · Score: 1

      I don't know about you, but I'd much rather work 5 days/week at $650k/year for 4 years and live off the 100k/year interest thereafter.

  27. The Slashdot Model by francisstp · · Score: 1

    We need alternative business models to increase the value of the blogsphere. Anyone got ideas? You may not realize it but you're contributing to one of these alternative models right here!
  28. I'm shocked by Yvanhoe · · Score: 2, Insightful

    You mean that gaining money through blogging means it has to be stressful like a real work ? really I'm shocked, I thought it was free money !

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    The Wise adapts himself to the world. The Fool adapts the world to himself. Therefore, all progress depends on the Fool.
  29. Blogging is stressful? by tao · · Score: 1

    Wow, this is interesting. I better blog about it...

    1. Re:Blogging is stressful? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I find it less stressfull because I get to put my pointless shit out in the open

  30. REBUTTAL by thegnu · · Score: 2, Funny

    Certainly you won't be renting an island, a chef and prostitutes for $50K/year.

    Certainly you've never been to Mexico. ;-)

    I never said chefs and I never said hookers. The exchange rate on personal relationship is way better in Mexico anyway.
    --
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  31. Naive thinking. by elucido · · Score: 1

    If you are a blogger, set your hours. Sure, you'll violate them once in a while (I'm posting from work on a Sunday...I'm in a crunch time in my business - it happens). But seriously, if you don't post for 14 hours a day, the world will not stop. Provided that you have people to do the shifts to keep the information flowing, people will not abandon the blog forever. Taco doesn't spend 20 hours a day posting dupes - he's hired people to do that.

    This isn't really about blogging, it's about small business. Small, one man shops really are a drain on your life. You fear that if you close too early or open too late you'll miss that one big customer. Until you get big enough to spread the load, that will be the case.

    A note for bloggers - you might want to move. There were two in that story - one in SF, one (I believe) in NY. Note: you're bloggers, nobody cares where you live and you can source from anywhere in the (US/NA/World). Based on the "all day and night at the keyboard" comments, these folks aren't getting their inside scoops from wandering the streets of the big technology cities. Might I suggest somewhere inexpensive, somewhere relaxing from which to blog. Make it within 100 miles of an airline hub if you do a lot of conferences. Office space in small towns is often $8/SF (per year) or less, and really good housing is actually affordable on 40k-50k/yr. If they move out of San Francisco and out of New York, then there will be less women to choose from, from which to marry. What if they like the women in San Fran and New York?

    I'm sure most bloggers wont be marrying professional women but if you actually WANT to, then the big city is the place to find these women and this could be the main reason some of them live in these places.

    I don't rule out the possibility that the guy living in San Francisco could be gay, but once again, you completely ignore the fact that there's a very large concentration of physically attractive single women in these areas that probably wont be found in the less densely populated places like North Dakota, Idaho, or Montana.

    The problem with living in small towns is, it's hard as hell to find a mate in a small town. Thats the main reason most people leave the small town for the big city in the first place.

    Your post wasn't completely wrong, you are right on it being more efficient to live and work in a small town. And if these guys have wives, maybe they can do that for a few years. But most people aren't going to want to find a wife in Idaho, and most people aren't going to want to raise kids in Idaho either.

    1. Re:Naive thinking. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There isn't a large concentration of single women in San Francisco, or anywhere in the California Bay Area. Most of the women here already have husbands or long-term boyfriends. The demographic of this area is predominantly male, and women in this area aren't stupid -- a predominantly male populous means they can pick-and-choose at their whim ("I didn't like his hair yesterday, so I dumped him", as they know they'll meet someone else within 2 weeks tops). This also means that heterosexual men in this area will work extra hard to keep a girlfriend, because competition is insane here. A lot of guys turn into recluses, simply because they get tired of trying to search for a needle in a schlong haystack.

      Said demographic works in favour of male homosexuals. Every gay friend I have says "I LOVE it here! I'm so glad I moved here" "Why?" "There's so much meat to choose from!" I've yet to hear a single gay man complain about not being able to find a decent partner in this region.

      If you're looking for chicks, San Francisco/Bay Area IS NOT the place to go. Try the South instead, or the midwest.

    2. Re:Naive thinking. by 0kComputer · · Score: 1

      You'd think that given the high homosexual male numbers in that area, the result would be just the opposite; that straight women have a smaller pool of hetero males to choose from. Either way, I wouldn't know, I've been married for 5+ years now, I'm totally clueless at the singles game.

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      10.
    3. Re:Naive thinking. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's true, you would think that, but sadly it doesn't work that way. Tech-savvy kids and young adults still relocate here because it's the one place in the United States where you're pretty much guaranteed a large selection of work. Plus, let's not forget the California stereotype: palm trees, beautiful women, warm weather, sun, etc...

      What you end up with is a significantly large male population with a bad male-to-female ratio. Keeping that ratio in mind, even if you do meet a single woman, what're the chances you'll be her type, or that she'll be yours? When people tell me "I'm thinking of moving to the Bay, what do you think?", I always give them the same advice: "that's nice to hear, I just hope you're OK with being single for a very long time".

      This is not the region to go if you're looking for women, but it is one of the best regions in the United States for tech work. Chances are, said bloggers relocated here for exactly that reason, hoping that large metro area == large selection of women. Bzzzt, ain't the case. Instead, the Bay is one big meat factory.

  32. I'm not talking about building airplanes. by elucido · · Score: 1


    But even in the case of building airplanes, the design could be done at home.

  33. 30 pounds = 13.6 Kg by Cinnaman · · Score: 1

    That's 13.6 kilos for those in metric countries.

    A revolving team of reporters contributing to a blog would probably alleviate the stress. Even just maintaining a personal blog can be stressful if you feel that you (alone) should post regularly to maintain other's interest.

    1. Re:30 pounds = 13.6 Kg by tomhudson · · Score: 1

      That's 13.6 kilos for those in metric countries.

      No, it'd be more like 2.5 kilos - people in metric countries don't gain as much weight as Americans.

  34. You must have a small penis. by Overzeetop · · Score: 1

    I don't mean that in a negative way - there's nothing wrong with a small penis. But you seem very concerned about finding a woman who will have you, and you seem to feel that cash is the only way to "score" a good woman.

    And you don't need to move to Bumfuck, Idaho. Find a city with 50k-200k people and you'll have a pretty good selection, but still be where you can afford to live on a 5 figure salary. The outskirts of Charlotte or Greensboro, NC come to mind, or even larger like some of the 'burbs around Raleigh. Even better, and closer to my 50-200k number, find a town with a major college. Blacksburg and Charlottesville, VA, or Amhearst, MA, or Ithaca, NY. All small towns with great primary and secondary schools, affordable housing, and lots of hot chicks.

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    Is it just my observation, or are there way too many stupid people in the world?
  35. Hasn't programming been like this forever ? :-D by OneInEveryCrowd · · Score: 1

    "They work long hours, often to exhaustion."

    When I got started in programming in the late 1970's I used to hear similar things about the health risks. A programmer who worked across the street had to be hospitalized for a nervous breakdown after many months of 100 hour (no paid overtime) work weeks. I went to a party with my coworkers where their wives cornered me in the kitchen and told me to "get out now".

    Since it looks like computer related jobs haven't changed a bit in 30 years, I'll bet the next New York Times article on the subject concerns blogging ruining marriages.

  36. Wow shock by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Person who runs his own company has been found to have earned much but worked his ass off and has become fat and with little spare time.

    More news at 11.

  37. Bit Melodramatic? by ek-sistence · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The first few paragraphs of this article are so melodramatic that you might be able to convince me it came from The Onion rather than the NY Times. Was the writer bored; felt like being a little dramatic? Did all the editors have the day off? Either way, nice job, NY Times, you've at least amused me.

  38. Re: Lawyers by TaoPhoenix · · Score: 1

    Brilliant.

    You're insulting Staples Inc's lawyers.

    Watch them send you a friendly warning letter.

    (Somewhere, on the 17th floor of the Staples Building. Terrance in Counsel says to himself ...)

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  39. Ever heard of shifts? by jonadab · · Score: 1

    There's this thing called a 'shift'. I think it was a military invention originally, but the principle carries over well to other industries. It's really cool. Basically, you get at least three people, and you *take turns* being the one who has to be available at all times -- for a few (usually eight) hours at a time, and then the next guy relieves you and takes the next shift, and you're free to go home and sleep and stuff.

    It seems to be really catching on. Might be the next big thing. You should try it.

    --
    Cut that out, or I will ship you to Norilsk in a box.
  40. Stop mangling submissions. by afeinberg · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Dear Slashdot Editors,

    Please stop mangling my submissions. I did not submit to you the NYT article. I submitted the commentary to the NYT article which I wrote as a tech/public policy blogger reacting to the story. I find the way you guys now strip out submitters content and simply link to the "mainstream" article insulting and really makes me want to contribute to the discussions less and less. Why is my contribution less valuable than the NYT article? I think my commentary as an informed reader adds much to the discussion, and could have done quite a bit to improve the quality of comments here.

    Is there a reason you no longer link to other people's submissions, only their mainstream media material?

    I have been a Slashdot reader since 1998-1999. I read less and less. This is why. While I took the time to format, edit, and submit a story containing links to both the original NYT article and my own commentary you found it OK to strip out my entire submission and bury it in your worthless "firehose" and instead simply use me as a tip-off instead of a contributor to a community which I have been on for over ten years. Check my UID.

    Is original (ie, not from "news sites") content no longer relevant on Slashdot? Hey Malda, Bates? Remember me? When did your site become a news aggregator instead of a place to discuss ideas, not just rehash articles from mainstream press? I don't feel like part of a community right now. I feel like I'm doing work just so someone else can take the credit. I spent a good amount of time writing that post that I linked you to, and you all but ignored it.

    Why?

    Andrew Feinberg
    Angry Slashdot Veteran

    1. Re:Stop mangling submissions. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think you should consider switching to decaff.

    2. Re:Stop mangling submissions. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think they're trying to avoid having to tag articles "ohshititsroland." (Only with 'roland' replaced with someone else's name)

    3. Re:Stop mangling submissions. by afeinberg · · Score: 1

      I drink Diet Coke.

    4. Re:Stop mangling submissions. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Time to switch to Diet Coke Caffeine-Free?

    5. Re:Stop mangling submissions. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Blame Roland.

    6. Re:Stop mangling submissions. by tomhudson · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Hey, it proves they actually do edit the articles (sometimes).

      As to your question of "why" - the answer is obvious - you aren't the original source. You're also not the story. The real story isn't "what Andrew Feinberg thinks about bloggers dropping dead", it's about bloggers dropping dead.

      We've all (okay, many of us) submitted stuff and seen it mangled. Big deal. You didn't see me complain when they ran a copy of my poll, stripped of my text,on the front page. And no, I didn't submit it - someone else must have. They didn't ask if they could use it (and it was 100% original, not a blog posting about an article someone else wrote), but I didn't go crying about it - I was glad to be able to contribute something people thought was worthwhile.

      You want to ear respect? Don't whine. I remember one time when a print reporter misquoted something I said - it came out in print the exact opposite, and she remembered what I had really said (this was in the middle of an election campaign). She promised to print a retraction, and I said "Don't bother - if anyone asks, I said it, and it was just a stupid slip of the tongue." From that day on, I was gold.

      People make mistakes. People have honest differences of opinion. Editors edit. Shit happens. You can always blog about it, if you feel the need to vent. Just stop with the whining - it comes across as very unprofessional, low uid notwithstanding.

    7. Re:Stop mangling submissions. by MMC+Monster · · Score: 1

      How about water.

      Do you think your body knows how to metabolize aspartane or whatever the artificial sweetener is in diet coke.

      Evolution has allowed the human body to recognize dehydration and treat it by making us thirsty.

      All the artificial sweeteners (including high fructose corn syrup) confuse that mechanism. Now when you are dehydrated you get hungry instead and end up taking in more calories rather than zero-cal water.

      (Sorry for being way-off topic, but this has been a sore point for me for the last year :-) )

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    8. Re:Stop mangling submissions. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      1. Because there are readers who don't want to wade through four-five layers of blogspam "me too" to get to the article itself.

      2. Your commentary fits better as a post here on /. than on your blog.

    9. Re:Stop mangling submissions. by PCM2 · · Score: 1

      Do you think your body knows how to metabolize aspartane or whatever the artificial sweetener is in diet coke.

      Obviously not. Why do you suppose Diet Coke has "zero calories"? Aspartame gets broken down to a minor degree in the digestive system, then excreted.

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    10. Re:Stop mangling submissions. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      awwww, poor baby didn't get his ad clicks. Baby needs his soother.

    11. Re:Stop mangling submissions. by maxume · · Score: 1

      That's not correct. Aspartame is 180 times sweeter than sucrose/glucose/etc, so a smaller amount tastes similarly sweet, even though equal masses of sugar and aspartame contain the same amount of energy:

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aspartame#Properties_and_use

      So while there is ~40 grams of sweetener in a can of regular Coke, there is much less than 1 gram of aspartame in a can of Diet Coke, and they are allowed to pretend that it doesn't carry any Calories, even though it has 1 or 2.

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    12. Re:Stop mangling submissions. by khallow · · Score: 2, Funny

      Do you think your body knows how to metabolize aspartane or whatever the artificial sweetener is in diet coke. No, but then it doesn't know how to do anything.
    13. Re:Stop mangling submissions. by afeinberg · · Score: 1

      Actually, I don't have any ads. What I would like is for my submission to be treated with respect. This wouldn't have happened back in the day. Why submit something that I wrote when it'll just be picked through for the mainstream article?

    14. Re:Stop mangling submissions. by afeinberg · · Score: 1

      Tom,

      If I felt like Slashdot was just a news aggregator, I wouldn't care. But it used to be where viewpoints were shared and yes, other people's blog posts on articles were linked. If you look at the original story, I submitted both the original and my commentary. They should have included both.

      As I've said before, this wouldn't have happened in the old days.

    15. Re:Stop mangling submissions. by quintessentialk · · Score: 1

      I am unsure whether this is honest complaint or parody...

    16. Re:Stop mangling submissions. by quintessentialk · · Score: 1
      Alright, the consensus seems to be 'honest complaint.' I agree with what tomhudson said. Removing the extraneous commentary and drilling down to the original source is what the editors SHOULD be doing for the stories, and it is horribly frustrating when they don't. If I want commentary, I'll read the comments. Often, I do, though usually for entertainment rather than insight.

      With due respect to afeinberg, I think his complaint greatly overstates the value of news commentary (anyone's news commentary, not specifically Feinberg's). This is especially true of blogs based on mainstream media sources, stories which are already written for the layman public and don't often benefit from the extra layer of interpretation. That's why I mistook the comment for parody. It's a stereotype, I know, but nothing typifies bloggers in my eyes more than

      1. Overestimating the importance of blogs in particular and news commentary in general
      2. Complaining about how much work blogging is
      3. Complaining about being censored, kept down, denied access, etc., by 'the man'
      4. Complaining about the lack of respect bloggers receive.

      The news story this discussion concerns confirms that stereotype; unfortunately, Mr. Feinberg's comment does too, so I thought it satirical.

      That said, it's just a stereotype. Many blogs are valuable, and some indignation is justified. In this case, though, slashdot worked. Post the news, not the spin.

    17. Re:Stop mangling submissions. by tomhudson · · Score: 1

      I guess you missed all the complaints about Roland Piquepaille and links to primidi.com. There were accusations of kickbacks, etc., so now they just go with the actual source, to keep everything above-board.

      Hope that clears it up for you. Of course, there's nothing to stop a submitter from posting their comments somewhere in the thread, or linking to them elsewhere ...

    18. Re:Stop mangling submissions. by Raenex · · Score: 1

      As a Slashdot reader, I really don't care about your blog post rehashing the real article. It's also annoying when there's more than one link in a summary without a clear reason -- and a blog rehash is not a good reason.

    19. Re:Stop mangling submissions. by Fizzl · · Score: 1

      You can't be serious. _I_ don't want links to some shitty blog. I want to to get to the actual researched article.

    20. Re:Stop mangling submissions. by Fizzl · · Score: 1

      Oh, wait. Sorry. I now understood that they totally mangled your actual submission. That's not nice. Thou I still fully support unwrpping blog posts from article links.

    21. Re:Stop mangling submissions. by SilentChris · · Score: 1

      Sorry. All I heard was "get off my lawn!"

  41. HUMOR - PLZ MOD ACCORDINGLY by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    When 9-11 happened, I knew people who didn't found out until late afternoon.
    Heh-heh, those dumb Europeans.
  42. Kettle... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Seriously, does anyone get their 'news' from blogs? Didn't you just get this 'news' from Slashdot, Rob Malda's blog?
  43. Guilt by kylemonger · · Score: 1
    Maybe it's not work-related stress, maybe it's guilt. Guilt that's he's making a lot of money from merely regurgitating news about people who are actually doing productive work.

    Or maybe it's fear, the fear of a man soaring over a city a year and a day after he first learned that he could fly. Fear that the ability will disappear as mysteriously as it appeared, and without warning he will plummet to his death.

  44. Re: /. work shifts by TaoPhoenix · · Score: 1


    Actually, I've mapped the few hours of story arcs on /. a few times, and several of the editors have accounted for 18 hour spans of news.

    People with "Programmer's Ethic" work well from home, but other posts are correct that the types of people who subconsciously need the flow of people around them begin to drift when working from home.

    This is where non-time metrics can sometimes be fun if they're not too tightly calibrated. "I don't care what you do with your time so long as you post 137 stories on /. per week".

    If that means a 3 hour break on Tuesday from 11 AM till 2Pm with a large pizza, large Hunan Chicken, 4 Liters of Dew, a bowl of wings, and 7 friends, go for it. Then after the "American Siesta" you can go back to work from 2PM until midnight.

    Blogging is really starting to allow non-traditional working hours. It might take a couple decades more, but eventually the Brick&Mortar world will begin to notice that it's no fun anymore for every business to be open only from 8:15AM until 4PM if their customers are working from 6:45AM until 4:45PM.

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  45. Money talks. by elucido · · Score: 1

    I don't mean that in a negative way - there's nothing wrong with a small penis. But you seem very concerned about finding a woman who will have you, and you seem to feel that cash is the only way to "score" a good woman.

    And you don't need to move to Bumfuck, Idaho. Find a city with 50k-200k people and you'll have a pretty good selection, but still be where you can afford to live on a 5 figure salary. The outskirts of Charlotte or Greensboro, NC come to mind, or even larger like some of the 'burbs around Raleigh. Even better, and closer to my 50-200k number, find a town with a major college. Blacksburg and Charlottesville, VA, or Amhearst, MA, or Ithaca, NY. All small towns with great primary and secondary schools, affordable housing, and lots of hot chicks. It's not penis size that counts, it's wallet size.
    Women by nature are more attracted to powerful men.

    And it's a fact that there aren't a lot of good women on earth, so if you go to a small city you'll just have less of a selection of a scarce commodity.

    Would you go to the desert in search of water? No of course not. College towns are a good option, but college towns are near big cities, and most people don't stay in them beyond 4 years.
  46. Dear Bloggers - Quit by b4dc0d3r · · Score: 1

    Most blogs out there are not adding anything new. If you're one of those, quit.

    Maybe you have some dedicated fans who comment on things, but why not move those commentators further into the mainstream so that we can have more diverse insights into the news stories? This is slashdot, and there are technically-minded people here, so there is a bias of self-selection. There are celeb blogs, political blogs, random blogs, auto enthusiast blogs, and all sorts of stuff I'd rather not mention. All with the same problem - the news gets to them, but not past them into the wider audience. And certainly the comments don't either.

    If you're adding value by breaking new stories, or adding information/details to existing stories, then concentrate on adding value, not satiating your masses. If you're not adding value, please quit and reduce the amount of duplication on the intartubes. And quit whining, it's not becoming.

    1. Re:Dear Bloggers - Quit by Dan541 · · Score: 1

      Why? the whole point of a blog is to just post.

      I dosen't matter if the blog has any value it is just a writing pad

      ~Dan

      --
      An SQL query goes to a bar, walks up to a table and asks, "Mind if I join you?"
  47. Then he is is not doing it right! by Jane+Q.+Public · · Score: 2, Insightful

    If he is drawing millions in revenue (since millions is plural, and it is three years, we will presume that is at least 1 million per year), and he has only 4 employees, AND his office is in his home... he is doing something wrong if he is still stressed and in ill health.

    First: four employees, if they are competent, should be enough to keep a blog going by themselves, relieving him of said stress. If not, he needs better people.

    Second: if this is not parts of California or New York, he should be able to find those employees for an average of $50k each, making $200,000. Hire them right out of college; they will be ecstatic to be making that much.

    Double that figure to cover things like office overhead and business expenses (he's in his HOME, and it is an INTERNET business!) and so on. Don't need very much in the way of benefits, either, in an office of 4 employees. That's $400,000.

    That leaves $600,000 for him.

    Okay, I have not figured in taxes and so on. But that should not make more of a difference than around 30% to 40% one way or another. I could live on an income of $360,000 a year. In fact I would probably be having a lot of fun.

    And if I wasn't, I would hire a goddamned manager for $80,000 to $100,000 of that, and go play with my $260,000. Maybe invest in another company with my money and now completely SPARE time, and do the same all over again... $520,000 / year, and still no stress.

    This guy needs a clue.

    1. Re:Then he is is not doing it right! by rant64 · · Score: 1

      You're right. The story is not about blogging. It's about greed.

  48. Blogging is hard? No, creativity is hard, period. by jollyreaper · · Score: 1

    I like to cook. People tell me "Gee, you should become a professional chef." Heh, wrong idea, sparky. There's a huge difference between whipping up a meal for a few friends and putting out that kind of quality for a dinner seating 200. Likewise, there's a huge difference between doing a little bit of amateur writing for fun versus doing it for a living.

    I like to write. I would be terrified to do so in a professional capacity. It takes me sooo long to write anything I'm satisfied with and sometimes the muse doesn't hit for weeks. When you hit the Big Leagues, there's no time for whining, crying, or saying you lack for inspiration. "We need content and we need it now. Give it to us or we'll find someone else who can."

    I have nothing but sympathy for the bloggers out there who are trying to make a living at it. They're joining the ranks of creative types throughout history who have long suffered from trying to strike a balance between art and commerce. I know I can't be that good that consistently for such a long period. When I look at the ridiculously large writing staff of quality shows like the Daily Show and Colbert Report, I think "Damn straight, it takes that many people to make it happen." I'm in awe of smaller creative teams who manage to crank out the quality time after time after time. I've got a story I'm working on right now where my head is slamming against the wall. I have a good start, a good ending, but everything I'm trying to write in the middle is just falling short. I know it's crap, anyone else reading would know it's crap, but I have the luxury of not showing it to anyone until I have it fixed. If I had a deadline, out the door it would go, crap and all. That's a scary thought.

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    Kwisatz Haderach
    Sell the spice to CHOAM
    This Mahdi took Shaddam's Throne
  49. Enough with the word blog already! by b1gp0pp4 · · Score: 1

    Yes, it's lost all meaning. Blog, bloggers, blogging, blogosphere. I've got blogophobia.

    --
    A whopping 120 characters to take your mind off topic. Tested in MS Word.
  50. I agree with that by elucido · · Score: 1


    But when you have a wife and kids, then you'll have to pay for private school, and college, and whatever the kids need to be as successful as you are, and the wife will expect that because it's a mans job to provide for his family.

    That's what being a man is all about.

  51. Women want security. by elucido · · Score: 1

    Hate to burst your bubble, but no woman I would describe as "good" is more attracted to a guy with money than, say, a guy who's likeable and isn't a douche. At least I give you credit for observing the warped nature of our social values, though I'm perplexed by your apparent embrace of it and exhortations to participate in a clearly unfair system.

    To each his own, I suppose. No woman wants to raise kids with a bum. A woman wants a man who can make her feel safe, because the world is a scary and dangerous place. Women also want a shoulder to cry on when times are tough, so ideally women want BOTH likeable and rich.

    However when women have to choose between the rich/powerful/strong asshole, and the weak/bum/jobless asshole, which asshole is she going to choose?

    Most of us are either very likeable and very poor (myself included), or rich jerks. The majority of women still go for the rich jerks over the likeable poor fellow which proves that despite what you say, women DO have needs and DO want providers.

    And I see nothing wrong with the system, it's a man's job to provide for and protect his family. And a woman should choose the man who is best able to protect her and her kids, because that's the rational choice, and it's natural.

    The only reason it can be a problem is when the rich guy also happens to be a complete asshole who treats women like shit, but he's so rich and so powerful that he still manages to keep a good woman.

    So in essence, good women are attracted to power, and in my opinion, a good woman deserves to be with a man who is both srong AND good, rather than a man who is weak and good. It's just the rational decision.

    1. Re:Women want security. by monquito · · Score: 1

      You seem to be getting all of your ideas on relationships and society from television shows about fictional towns in California and/or books written before the 1960s. I'm sure there are women for whom net financial worth is a high value or the only value, but unless these women are also rich and powerful or on their way there and want someone with similar ideals to their own, they are basically legal prostitutes--not what I would consider a "good" woman. A relationship should not be reduced to an exchange of goods and services, nor does it need to be.

  52. Define blog. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I get news from Slashdot and Digg mostly. Very rarely do I browse news.google.com.

    What's a blog? Quite frankly, there's little difference between a blog (some lone nut posting stories, with tons of users commenting) and sites like Slashdot and Digg (a bunch of nuts posting stories, with tons of users commenting).

    Hell, any way you get your news, you're going to get bias, misinformation and downright bad reporting. I'd rather have CowboyNeal's bias than some paid shill from the NYT's bias. :P

  53. Re:Blogging is hard? No, creativity is hard, perio by david_thornley · · Score: 1

    Not to mention that creative jobs don't pay much (unless you're in something like the top 1% of the top 1% or so), because so many people want to write, or paint, or act, or sing, or blog, or whatever. Nor is there any security. (A friend told me this is why so many actors do drugs: they make a lot of money, have absolutely no assurance that they will ever work again, and want anything that will give them even a slight edge so they might have work next month.)

    Anybody who can make millions blogging has got to be worried about what happens with just a little slack-off. Take a little time off, and it's frighteningly possible that the advertising revenues will drop into the thousands, permanently.

    Not the lifestyle for me.

    --
    "When you have eliminated the unacceptable, whatever is left, however improbable, must be the truthiness" - Holmes
  54. Not only heart attacks. Blood clots also. by anomic_event · · Score: 2, Informative

    Physical inactivity and long hours at the computer have many physically unhealthy aspects.

    Another aspect, unreported in mainstream press asfaik, is the prevalence of blood clots that long hours at a computer can create in people. This once was only associated with long airline flights. Now it is occurring in programmers and others who sit in front of a computer for long periods of time.

    More information at Long hours at computers may cause blood clots.

  55. Can we make a bargain, God? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    God can have that stupid asshole Michael Arrington and his whole staff forever if we can just get one more year with Russell Shaw. Deal? We'll even throw in NYT idiots who post sensationalist bullshit.

  56. So you got a 24h job... by Kjella · · Score: 1

    ...that on top of that can be done from anywhere in the world. Hire one guy in Europe working 8-5 CET = 11PM-8AM PST and two on the west coast working alternately 8-5 PST and 5-11 PST (shorter for being evening hours) and you got the day covered. Throw in one more guy on the east coast alternating between working early for CET guy and late for PST guys and you'll have a normal schedule with time off on weekends etc. Seriously, is this anything more stressful or complicated than say servers with 24h watch, guard duty, services like hospitals etc? This is not rocket science, people do this in plenty jobs around the world. This is just whining.

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    Live today, because you never know what tomorrow brings
  57. You mean you missed the gossip and coffee? by elucido · · Score: 1


    In that case you have an unusual personality from the typical slashdot computer geek.

    Myself, I don't like gossip, I don't care what my coworkers had for dinner or whats going on in their lives. I don't want to have to drink coffee.

    What if some of us want to just wake up and work from the moment we wake up until the moment we fall asleep and then repeat that for weeks or months at a time, taking breaks only for food, sex, and showering/shaving etc.

    What if we want to live like a hermit and focus on nothing but our work, the beautiful code that we produce might be more interesting to us than the words which come out of coworkers mouths.

    1. Re:You mean you missed the gossip and coffee? by cbart387 · · Score: 1
      Yeah. I mean I definitely do have anti-social tendencies. Loud crowded places tend to put me on edge. Even so though, I do get satisfaction from interacting with others... at least in a more intimate setting. Also, unlike most slashdotters (I'd imagine), I don't play videogames, I'd rather be outside biking or playing tennis. So I'm in the odd position of not fitting very well into a stereotype.

      What if we want to live like a hermit and focus on nothing but our work, the beautiful code that we produce might be more interesting to us than the words which come out of coworkers mouths. That's fine. I wasn't trying to pass judgment. Neither is better or worse, it's just a preference.
      --
      Lack of planning on your part does not constitute an emergency on mine.
  58. Take a sleeping bag to work by elucido · · Score: 1

    First off, I'm a chemist and don't have access to $500k worth of equipment at home, so I couldn't telecommute if I wanted to, but even if I could, why?

    I don't want to be at home all the time. I like to leave the house and I'm generally not productive when at home. I go to work to be at work and I go home to be at home. I would rather never mix the two. Why do you need downtime from work? Why don't you just live your job?

    Take a sleeping bag with you to work, sleep at work and then you don't have to pay for a home you probably never spend much time in anyway.
  59. Boundaries by Torodung · · Score: 1

    Really, this seems to me to be evidence of the results of tearing down boundaries between the public and the private, work and home, and the overall limitations placed upon personal space in modern work processes.

    Basically, we're going to find out that there is a downside to telecommuting, etc. People need more than a cubicle. They need a place to be alone.

    Every person needs to a way to get away from their work. I can still remember those old AT&T ads, back when AT&T was more than just a rebranded SBC, and their famous question "How would you like to do your work on the beach?" My answer was a uncategorical: no.

    I want to smell the salt air when I go to the beach. The admonition is clear: Turn off your cellphone, and assorted gadgetry, and take a break, or you will break.

    --
    Toro

  60. "Feeding the Beast"... by jddj · · Score: 1

    ...is what my brother A., an editor at the major daily in a midsize east coast city calls it. You've sold ads, no matter what happens there's going to be a paper printed over night, so you'd better get busy and fill it with news. Doing so gets extremely difficult when everyone who makes interesting things happen goes on vacation in August.

    It's quite fatiguing for newspaper pros, and they have a lot of resources to back them up - wire copy not the least of it ("wire copy": that's "old-school RSS" for you younguns).

    Bloggers coulda' learned this in J-school. Some of 'em did.

    The consequences are the journalism equivalent of the effects of the devolution of power that's occurred in every other facet of the "digital revolution".

    • Designers "get to" set their own type now, and that means they "have to".
    • Authors now "can" publish their own books, and for many, now they "have to".
    • Bands "are free to" use alternate distribution channels for their music, and increasingly this means they bear their own promotional burdens.

    It's the same with the recording, photographic and video industries, graphic arts, virtually every other trade that's suddenly put the means of production in the hands of the proles: "you wanted the power, now go to it, buddy!"

    1. Re:"Feeding the Beast"... by lorelorn · · Score: 1

      Freedom is not free. Quit complaining that the prison door has been wrenched from its hinges and start living.

  61. huh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    my one grandfather drove tanks around in france in the early to mid 1940-s. my other grandfather drove submarines around the pacific, same timeframe. my uncle was a forward artillery spotter in nam, and my dad flew cobra attack helos there as well. i have a few buddies at work that were in gulf war one and/or two. and i'm sure even being a police officer is a far, far, far more stressful job than being a %*(#*$& blogger. it's a bunch of whining if a keyboard commando is complaining that their job is stressful. grr. posted anonymous cause i suppose this is flamebait.

  62. Blogging Yourself To Death! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So, it has come to this. The NYT has stooped to the levels of yellow journalism.

    You know, on second thought the NYT is right. We should salute and honor our favorite bloggers who sacrifice their time (and err ... health?) to keep us, the faithful readers, informed.

    Michael Yon, Bill Rogio, Michael Totten, the entire staff at IraqSlogger.com, and all the *smart* liberal and conservative bloggers out there - I salute you!

  63. Why? Two words: Roland Piquepaille by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Notorious 'splogger' who still gets stories on /. from time to time.

    He even has a Greasemonkey script created to 'strip out' his /. stories.

    Because of Roland and the anger /.ers have at him and his 'stories' surely lead the editors to a 'horse's mouth' approach when editing stories: only stories from well-known for-profit media outlets will be linked to--who cares what Joe Schmoe has to say on the matter (even if he does have a low /. UID) :P ....

    Face it...Slashdot has (already) sold out. They know their 3rd party ads are being blocked (I do as I'm not a CTO who would be interested in them) so they let the 'slashvertisements' that come their way through that tout the latest and greatest tech gadgets. I ignore those 'stories' as well....

  64. Insight over News by fabianv · · Score: 1

    I think the main problem is that people have a fixation on getting the latest news instead of writing insightful content that could be relevant for months to come. Thats one thing I dont like about news blogging.. there is usually a ton of blogs saying the same thing.

  65. Stressful reporting? by SnowDog74 · · Score: 1

    Tell that Bob Woodruff.

  66. Re: the next _day_? by ThinkOfaNumber · · Score: 1

    When you can see the news any moment, you expect the news every moment. When people read newspapers primarily, it was considered acceptable to not be up-to-date until the next day.

    The next day?! It was only 132 years ago that the overland telegraph was completed from Adelaide(ish) to Darwin (only 3200km). Before the overland and undersea telegraphs, news would come via ship from England to Perth, Pt Augusta, then Sydney many months later.

    When the telegraph to Sydney was completed (before the Darwin telegraph) reporters would travel to Perth, hop on the ship to write up their news stories, and then wire them to Sydney when they arrived in Pt Augusta. This would save a few weeks!

    When the undersea cable was completed from Java to Darwin, the overland cable wasn't quite ready by a stretch of a few kms. To save the large penalties involved for late completion, horsemen would transcript the message to paper, ride the gap, and re-wire them the rest of the way!

    Even with this uncompleted section, news times dropped from months to just days.

    Fast forward a hundred or so years, to a small island in the Indian Ocean where I used to live in the early 90's. One weeks TV and news coverage would be recorded from the ABC (Australian Broadcasting Corporation) and then flown to the island for viewing the following week. When the plane was delayed due to weather etc. we would be without any news for a week. When it finally arrived we could choose whether to watch the oldest news first, or the latest news first. We'd often get news of a cyclone coming our way the week after it had passed!

    Fast forward again to 9-11 as you mention, and my brother rang me up after the first "event". I turned on cable tv to watch the rest of it live from many different angles.

    When Steve Irwin died, I got an SMS within minutes of the story breaking and I could confirm early reports minutes later on the internet.

    What will we be complaining about in another 100 years?

  67. Blogs were meant to be by AP31R0N · · Score: 1

    Online diaries to share your daily drama with friends and strangers. That's it.

    If you are writing something for a living, it's not a blog entry, it's an article. Journalists write articles or stories. Analysts write articles and reviews and white papers. Angsty kids write blogs. Using a blog like interface or posting daily, does not make it a blog. The nature of the content makes it a blog.

    There is a tendency to over- and misuse buzz words. Blog is one of the worst culprits.

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  68. bloggers = writers by monquito · · Score: 1

    I understand that there is stress involved with having to keep up with a reader base that expects content 24 hours a day, but I agree with all of the people who suggest hiring more staff to meet the demand if you can afford it. But I still think bloggers should just be happy that they are getting paid for what they do at all. Most aspiring/freelance writers would happily take the "stress" written about in this article in exchange for earning MILLIONS (or even anything more than $20-30K/year) in exchange for what they do. Don't forget that if you are blogging full-time and performing no other job, you are not a doctor or a professor or a lawyer or an engineer, you are a writer. Let's look at the average salaries for journalists, shall we? I think the current system is as fair as it can be. Hm, Michael Arrington apparently reviewed the PayScale website. Maybe he should have actually used it.