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Pixar to Release All New Movies in 3D

emcron writes "The Walt Disney Co. said Tuesday its Pixar animation studio will commit to 3-D by releasing all of its movies in the format beginning with "Up" in May 2009. Chief Creative Officer John Lasseter made the announcement in New York at a presentation of Disney's upcoming lineup of animated movies."

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  1. I hate 3D glasses. by morgan_greywolf · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I've always hated 3D glasses. They don't quite fit me right (I have a wide head), and I don't have symmetrical vision (I see better out of my right eye than my left), so they don't work as well for me.

    So let me know when the 2D versions come out? Kthxbye.

    1. Re:I hate 3D glasses. by Max+Romantschuk · · Score: 4, Informative

      So let me know when the 2D versions come out? The FA did in fact state that there will be 2D versions of the movies as well. The real question it what will theaters decide to show? Both, or just the newfangled 3D version?
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    2. Re:I hate 3D glasses. by Steauengeglase · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I had the same feeling until going to a Real D 3-D movie. They have these orthogonal polarized glasses that look and feel a lot like a pair of Ray-Bans. They even design them to easily fit over any other eye-wear.

    3. Re:I hate 3D glasses. by EnOne · · Score: 2, Informative

      What I have been seeing is the trend of having the normal 2D version in 16x9 theaters and the 3D on the IMAX. Superman... Beowulf... it's easier to do this on computer animation films since you already have all of the z-depth values.

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    4. Re:I hate 3D glasses. by retupmoca · · Score: 5, Funny

      ...I can easily move around in your seat... Note to self: never sit next to fluffman86.
    5. Re:I hate 3D glasses. by electrictroy · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Forget 3D.

      I'd like Disney to revive its traditional 2D hand-drawn animation. Even if that means they produce only one movie every 3-4 years, I'd still like to see it revived. Hand-drawn art is gorgeous.

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    6. Re:I hate 3D glasses. by Oktober+Sunset · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The big advantage to them doing 1 film every 3-4 years is they might put a bit more thought into the script, and not churn out the same load of cheap gags and unorigional shit all the time.

    7. Re:I hate 3D glasses. by Trespass · · Score: 3, Insightful

      High quality work is always gorgeous, regardless of the medium.

    8. Re:I hate 3D glasses. by Aaron+Isotton · · Score: 4, Funny

      I see better out of my left eye than my right. Maybe we should go to cinema together.

    9. Re:I hate 3D glasses. by MrSteveSD · · Score: 3, Informative

      Hmm, the thing about 3D vision is that it really breaks down quite quickly over distance. A result of this is that 3D pictures look pretty boring unless there are lots of things in the foreground, like people ridiculously pointing into the camera or throwing things at the audience. So the storyline actually may suffer in order to make the most of the 3D.

  2. w00t! by somersault · · Score: 2, Informative

    The 3D effect is very cool, I saw Beowulf in it. The outdoor night scenes were especially impressive, looking out over hills and such. I still don't know how the technology even works without the red/green separation?

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    1. Re:w00t! by sayfawa · · Score: 5, Informative

      They use polarization separation instead. Two images, each with opposite polarization and with a slightly different viewing angle get to the viewer. Each lens of the glasses only lets in one polarization. For Beowulf they used right and left circular polarization. Which was surprising to me as I thought that circular polarizers cost too much to just be given away to moviegoers, but I guess those things are cheap now.

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    2. Re:w00t! by QuoteMstr · · Score: 4, Informative

      How it works? Light polarization. Each lens has a different polarization, so it only lets through the right light.

      Neat trick: take modern 3D classes, hold them flat in front of an LCD monitor, and rotate them on the axis perpendicular to the monitor. You'll see the display behind dim and brighten as the lenses see it at varying angles.

    3. Re:w00t! by ZorinLynx · · Score: 4, Informative

      This technology isn't "newer", it's been around for decades.

      I have a book published in the late 1930s or early 1940s at home called "The Marvels and Mysteries of Science", which is a very interesting read given our modern perspective. It has a complete section explaining how 3D movies work, including the polarization technique. Definitely nothing new!

    4. Re:w00t! by Animaether · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Depends on which you saw...

      If you saw the IMAX 3D, then you got the standard polarized version (one left projector with vertical polarization, one right projector with horizontal polarization, and matching cheapo glasses).

      If you saw the other one (RealD?), then you got a fancy set of glasses that had to be initialized first to match the current rotation angles for single-lens single projector, which projects both fields at once with rotating polarization. More than likely, you have to give those back (I did; NL). The main advantage is that you don't have to keep your head level... you can rest your head on your SO's shoulder and still enjoy the 3D effect instead of it being lost, muddied or getting ghost images.

      I wouldn't call it 'circular polarizers', btw... tends to get confused with circular polarizers in photography which are just standard polarizers with another layer that 'de-polarizes' the result so that optical autofocus systems and such don't get confused.

    5. Re:w00t! by ahecht · · Score: 2, Informative

      RealD glasses, at least here in the States, are "disposable" plastic glasses which you can keep. They do, however, use circular polarization instead of linear polarization (which is what is used in the cheap IMAX glasses). Since the circular polarization is angle independant, you can tilt your head. RealD is a single-projector system, since they use a liquid crystal filter in front of the projector to alternate between clockwise (right eye) and counter-clockwise (left eye) polarization.

      What you are probably thinking of, in terms of glasses that need to be synchronized, are shutter glasses. These glasses have an LCD filter over each eye that electronically switches from clear to opaque so that each frame is only seen by one eye. Typically they will have IR sensors on them to sync up with the projector, and I've even seen them with built-in speakers for a surround-sound effect. I've only seen them used in the more upscale IMAX 3D theaters in the US, but I wouldn't be surprised if they're using them in regular theaters too.

    6. Re:w00t! by Jupiter+Jones · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Even neater trick: Take two pairs of modern 3D glasses. Hold them both up to a regular light so that the light goes through one lens of one pair and then the corresponding lens of the other pair. Rotate one of the pair, and you'll see the light fade in and out as you change the polarization angle.

      Rotate the one pair so that no light gets through. Basically, you're letting through only half the light with one lens, and what does get past it is polarized to a certain angle. The other lens then blocks all of that remainder, since its polarization is 90-degrees off. You've got crossed polarizers.

      But that's not the neat part. Get a friend (unless you're Zaphod Beeblebrox) to position a third polarized lens between the two. Rotate it to a roughly 45-degree angle from the other two. You'll see light coming through again! This is a big WTF moment when seen in terms of classical physics (but is explained by quantum physics).

      JJ

    7. Re:w00t! by DECS · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The entire point of theaters going to 3D is to entice people away from their HDTVs with something that is unique and compelling can can't be as easily experienced at home.

      That's why Pixar is doing it, and why George Lucas, James Cameron, Robert Zemeckis, Robert Rodriguez, Randal Kleiser, and Peter Jackson "implored the exhibition community to invest in digital projectors" to show their upcoming 3D movies.

      Of course, at the same time Lucas also told Variety, "We don't want to make movies. We're about to get into television. As far as Lucasfilm is concerned, we've moved away from the feature-film thing because it's too expensive and it's too risky."

      If 3D doesn't help get viewers into the theater, there will be fewer blockbuster movies coming out, and entertainment will shift further toward TV.

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  3. 3D or Stereo? by MichaelSmith · · Score: 5, Insightful

    For me it can only be 3D if you can walk around the projection and see other sides as if it was a solid object.


    The linked wikipedia articles talk about ways of making stereo movies from mono movies but I think our brains already do that without the help of extra hardware.

    1. Re:3D or Stereo? by elrous0 · · Score: 2, Funny

      Beer goggles are better anyway.

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  4. And for the DVD release ... by psergiu · · Score: 4, Funny

    And for the DVD release Pixar will ditch the old 2D disks and will release the movie on the newly released 3D DVD Sphere.

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  5. Re:Why? by Tennguin · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I am guessing that the reason is that the format cannot be replicated in current home theater setups. This is a two fold win for the studios as 1. it gives people an incentive to get off their couches and into the cineplex and 2. it makes it close to impossible for pirates to toss up on torrent sites.

  6. Re:Why? by Mprx · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Just because 3d is often used as a gimmick doesn't mean it always has to be that way. It's perfectly acceptable to compose the scenes as though it were a normal movie, without all that objects flying into your face nonsense. The 3d effect will still work, and as it becomes more common people will expect a more subtle treatment. Color was a gimmick once, but now we don't expect every movie to be as colorful as The Wizard of Oz.

  7. 4D for 3D again? by techpawn · · Score: 3, Insightful

    If I wanted the experience so real I could touch it... I'd go outside and touch them. When I go to the movies, I suspend my belief for 2D. Even a live theater gives a flat 2D feel to the stage to a degree. 3-D makes me think the 80's... Next thing you know they'll resell "he-man" and "my little pony"...oh wait

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    1. Re:4D for 3D again? by gEvil+(beta) · · Score: 3, Funny

      3-D makes me think the 80's...

      It's okay. When you were growing up in the 80s, the 3D stuff that was coming out was reminding your parents and grandparents of the 50s and 60s.

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  8. Oblig. Futurama reference: by TripMaster+Monkey · · Score: 5, Funny

    Fry: Wow, the 3-D's great!

    Leela: Mine's not working!

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  9. Why has it taken so long? by Jason1729 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Since they already render the movies in a 3D world, I've always wondered why they don't make 3D versions of everything.

    At least because of this, it should be little trouble (and very profitable) for them to go back and re-render their library in 3D.

  10. Re:Camcorders by gEvil+(beta) · · Score: 4, Informative

    Or you just get a projectionist in one of the non-3D theaters to film it. Just because they're releasing movies in 3D doesn't mean that they'll exclusively be in 3D. In fact, TFA even says so: "...Pixar movies will be released in 3-D and the traditional two-dimensional format..." Not that I'd expect anyone to bother trying to understand what they're commenting on.

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  11. home market is not important to Pixar? by Speare · · Score: 2, Interesting

    What this announcement means to me is that the home movie market is not particularly important to the artistic vision of the upcoming Pixar stories. Very disheartening.

    Home viewers don't have the 3D hardware, and even if they did, the displays are already horribly low-fidelity compared to the professional projection equipment. Encoding stereoscopic information into the already limited datastream just reduces the image quality even more, either in frame rate or color fidelity. Or the home copy of the movie just doesn't encode any stereoscopic view and you lose out on all the uses of 3D that they wove into the artistic cinematic choices throughout.

    An example of this phenomenon is the Christmas movie, "Polar Express." The movie is crafted as a classic 3D experience: nearly every scene uses extensive use of depth, foreshortening and glistening reflective surfaces that really come alive in stereoscopic view. By contrast, watching the monoscopic view on the DVD is like covering one eye with a Dixie cup at the doctor's office.

    And given my esteem for artistic attention to detail in past Pixar movies, this is a real problem in my book. The "depth" of Polar Express is nothing compared to even a Pixar short.

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  12. The real question by Jesus+IS+the+Devil · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The real question on everybody's mind is...

    When will we see 3D porn in theaters?

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    1. Re:The real question by DECS · · Score: 3, Funny

      OMG It's coming right at me!

  13. I have only one eye by spun · · Score: 4, Funny

    3D does nothing for me ever since I lost an eye in a mugging.

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    1. Re:I have only one eye by jacobw · · Score: 5, Funny

      That means that somewhere out there is a mugger with three eyes. He can see in 4D!

    2. Re:I have only one eye by neoform · · Score: 4, Funny

      I have only one eye (Score:5, Funny)

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  14. Re:Future news by ahecht · · Score: 3, Informative

    Nice comment, but (a) 3D movies have no more (or less) flashing lights than 2D movies (b) No one reported seizures in 3D showings of Chicken Little, Monster House, Nightmare Before Christmas, Meet the Robinsons, Beowulf, etc. (c) "Wall*e" is about lovelorn robots, "Up" is about a geriatric superhero (d) Obama FTW

  15. more info by truespin · · Score: 2, Informative
    more to be found http://www.cinematical.com/2008/04/08/breaking-disney-pixar-announce-upcoming-slate/
    • Up will follow WALL-E for Pixar, featuring the voices of Ed Asner, Christopher Plummer, John Ratzenberger and Jordan Nagai.
    • Tinkerbell will go direct-to-DVD, followed by three sequels. So four Tinkerbell films all together.
    • Rapunzel is back! Not only that, but the classic story will be done in full CGI.
    • King of the Elves is another film coming from Disney animation in 2012, and it's based on a Phillip K. Dick story.
    • Toy Story and Toy Story 2 to be released in 3-D in 2009 and 2010.
    • Toy Story 3 hits theaters on June 18, 2010
    • Newt will be Pixar's film in 2011, and it comes with this description: "What happens when the last remaining male and female blue-footed newts on the planet are forced together by science to save the species, and they can't stand each other?
    • Cars 2 coming in 2012!
  16. Bwana Devil in 3D! by Detritus · · Score: 2, Funny
    Oh joy, they can release Bwana Devil again in 3D!

    It seems like every few years someone releases another film in 3D, and they all suck.

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  17. The meaning of 3D by LS · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It's pretty obvious here that the meaning of 3D is stereoscopic, but it can be confusing to just throw around the term 3D. It can have three meanings in this case:

    1. The movie is rendered using 3 dimensional data onto a 2 dimensional plane. yes I know all pixar films have been computer generated, but the less informed might think they might actually do hand drawn cartoons.

    2. The movie is rendered/filmed from two perspectives, and viewed for a stereoscopic effect

    3. The image is actually projected out into 3 dimensional space. This sounds unlikely, but there are actually some 3 dimension display technologies already available that allow for viewing from from any angle.

    Anyway, you get my point, let's be specific when we use the word "3D".

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  18. Re:Why? by mwvdlee · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Basically, this whole news release amounts to nothing more than "We're going to render each frame twice". With the second frame's camera slighly offset to the left (since most people have right eye dominance).

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  19. Circular versus orthogonal polarisation. by DrYak · · Score: 4, Informative

    you have to sit perfectly still at the correct angle for them to work. Great for a 5 minute clip, terrible for a 90 minute movie. The glasses and movies at Disney are absolutely top notch...if you ever go you have to see Mickey's Philharmagic Orchestra, It's Tough to Be a Bug, etc. The old polarised glasses use linear polarisation.

    The filter that separates left/right pictures only works if you head is perfectly aligned (vertical). If you tilt the head, the polarisation of the pictures relative to your glasses will be tilted instead of vertical/horizontal and you'll see "ghosting", i.e.: each eye see both left/right frame instead of the correct one.

    Modern glasses use circular polarisation.
    Now the filter works whichever is the angle of your head. Clockwise and anti-clockwise polarisation remain the same even if you tilt your head.
    Now the problem would be that the /parallax/ of the source will be wrong (if you completely tilt your head 90Â on the side you eyes will need to have top and bottom view of the scene, whereas the screen will be still emitting left/right).
    But, you will still have a lot less problems because your eyes won't be receiving 2 image at the same time.

    The worst glasses are the old anaglyphs (red/blue) : Only the intensity line up between your eyes, the colors are different for each eye and the result looks weird. Some people can use it and see 3D (I do), but most people only get a headache.
    The only advantage of the anaglyph is that the movie work with existing technology. It's just frames with weird-colors. Whereas the other needs polarised filters on the projector(s)

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  20. Re:That 3-D aftertaste... by smellotron · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I don't think to myself, "you know, this movie is good, but it would be GREAT IN COLOR!" I thought Robin Hood was great, but that's because it had a great, compelling story.

    Color is just sugar coating. It's in the same league as sound. Maybe it can show you something you've never seen before, but it doesn't really expand the story.

    Fixed that for you.