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What's The Perfect Balance For a Budget Laptop?

cheapbob writes "Recently HP officially unveiled a budget ultraportable laptop aimed to compete with the likes of Asus Eee PC. According to Compal, one of Dell's assemblers, Dell is also going to enter the budget ultra-portable market soon. All of these devices lack many of the features associated with larger-sized laptops, such as optical drives and large amounts of storage space, yet demand for them is very high. Initial reviews of these devices unsurprisingly expose them to be underpowered and lacklustre. What's the appeal? What do you think is the perfect balance of features and price point for a budget laptop?"

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  1. 4 hours commuting a day... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I commute two hours each way, by train bus and subway. Those of us who spend hours in transit every day can't even understand why someone would need to ask the question about what the appeal is.

    1. Re:4 hours commuting a day... by droopycom · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Get another job is easier said than done.

      2 hours each way seems a bit high, but at least he is using transit so he is not wasting all that time (thats why he got the freaking laptop!)
      I know people who spend 45 minutes driving to work, one way. Thats 1:30 wasted in traffic.

      In many places, most of the jobs are in the center where rents are very high.
      I know plenty of people who live in San Francisco and commute to San Jose because they want it.
      In Paris, young single people who can afford to rent a small flat would rather live close to the nightlife even if they work in the suburbs.
      On the other hand, family would rather get an affordable house in the suburbs even if there job is in the city.

      Your not even thinking about couple, whose jobs maybe in oposite directions. And its not always that easy to move when you own a house, or when your children are going to school.

      Your priorities maybe different...

    2. Re:4 hours commuting a day... by paulthomas · · Score: 4, Insightful

      "Naturally it's better to live in Germany. Unfortunately, I'm American."

  2. The Appeal? by stoolpigeon · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I can't speak for anyone else, but the appeal to me is that the machines can do enough- and they do it for an affordable price. That's the key. It was not long ago - and still is the case - that anything this small and underpowered cost a lot.
     
    The HP review says it does fine doing the basics - that's all most people need. For people who are on the move a lot, lugging around a full size laptop gets really old. People want to connect to the internet anywhere, but they don't want to carry a boat anchor to do it. These umpcs may be small but they are a lot bigger than many phones that would by the way, cost more. So there is the sweet spot. Price and size.

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    1. Re:The Appeal? by tverbeek · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Calling these machines "underpowered" shows a gross misunderstanding of their purpose. They're not supposed to be desktop replacements. They're designed to be "enough" computer for use on the road or in the field. You don't need a supercomputer to run an office suite, web browser, and e-mail client, and these laptops are designed with that in mind.

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  3. What's the appeal? You're looking at it by jeffmeden · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Web two point oh. If you spend all day reading/posting on slashdot, you don't need a whole lot of CPU power (as long as you run adblock plus.) People have less and less use for big local apps, and more and more use for web based apps, so this is where demand is going. If it can post on slashdot, it's good enough for everyday use. If it gets 8 hours on a charge and has multi-band wi-fi and a little hard drive space for MP3s and pictures, it will get the job done for most users, most of the time.

    Finally, if it's cheap enough to not really force a user to chose between owning a portable and owning a desktop (or better equipped portable) and instead they can have both, then you sir have a cash machine!

  4. Re:light and cheap by stoolpigeon · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Comparing these devices to full sized laptops misses the point.
     
    Exactly. I'd like to see a review of a pda that complained about the lack of screen size, power, and inputs/outputs. These aren't laptops - they are something between a pda and a laptop and they do a great job of filling that niche. The demand demonstrates that people have been hungry for something like this that doesn't cost an arm and a leg. I don't even bother trying to use my laptop when I'm actually traveling anymore. For a host of reasons it doesn't work - but one of these would be perfect.

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  5. Re:depends on your salary by stoolpigeon · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Macbook air low end is what? $1799?
     
    The low end on this HP is under $500. I'd say if it takes me an extra hour to get Suse tweaked just right on this box then my time is worth over $1300 an hour.
     
    Even with extra ram, a hard drive and suse - I'm still going to come in a thousand or more under the comparable apple.

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  6. Re:I don't like the direction they're taking by Wdomburg · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Then you're not the market for this particular device, just as simple as that. It's like saying you don't like the direction Honda is taking with the Fit when you want to buy an SUV.

  7. Re:OLPC by hattig · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Back in the days, when we were young wee bairns, those bits of paper our elders bought stuff with were worth a lot more elsewhere in the world than they are now.

    Cheap, small laptops in the next year or two will be very popular though. People will be cutting back. They're not going to buy something fancy, they'll get something that will do the job. As long as it does the full internet, does their email, has information manager functionality, they'll be happy.

    It's not about CPU power in this form factor, unless you do something silly like running Vista on the device. The iPhone shows that you can have a slick, smooth interface, fully featured (um, cut and paste excepted) that works well for the user, on a mere 412MHz ARM11 CPU. I suspect that some tasks (music decoding) are offloaded to the ARM9 on another chip in the system that has acceleration for that. Oh, there's also an ARM7 in that other chip. Probably ARM7s in the wireless controller too. Intel - you really think you can compete when something like an iPhone has so many ARMs to slap you about with?

    Oh, I digress for a bad joke. Anyway, it's about the software and its optimisation. Linux has a grand chance here to shine on the lesser hardware.