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Before the Big Bang: A Twin Universe?

esocid writes "Until very recently, asking what happened at or before the Big Bang was considered by physicists to be a religious question. General relativity theory just doesn't go there — at T=0, it spews out zeros, infinities, and errors — and so the question didn't make sense from a scientific view. But in the past few years, a new theory called Loop Quantum Gravity (LQG) has emerged. The theory suggests the possibility of a "quantum bounce," where our universe stems from the collapse of a previous universe. This may be similar with beliefs of Physicist Neil Turok of Cambridge University who has theorized about a cyclic universe, constantly expanding and compressing."

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  1. Re:Fallacy of the Big Bang Theory by deepthoughtless · · Score: 0, Redundant

    Hubble telescope can look at the sky in two opposite direction...and it did. Two opposite direction, you know....exactly opposite. In one direction, it looked into 12 to 15billion light years ago and see many galaxies. In a piece of the sky 1x1 degree it saw over 10,000 galaxies.... The light from this galaxies took 12 to 15 billion light years to reach our telescope. Then the Hubble looked into the opposite direction and saw exactly the same thing.... Exactly... Now put your mind to work... 12 to 15 billion light years ago....the galaxies in two opposite directions were already....24 to 30 billion light years away from one another! This mean the age of the universe exceeds 30 billion light years..... If you use this logic to compute the size of the universe 12 to 15 billion light years ago, it just won't work. You know why? Because Big Bang is bull crap! If Big Bang is true, then you should see a light barrier where there will be total darkness once the boundary is crossed. This boundary is where the photons have already flew past us if it was emitted beyond this boundary. OK....it is hard for you to understand. So bear with me... The speed of light is uniform and always the same... So if there was big bang, the initial batch of photons should have flown by us long time ago because the speed of expansion is less than the speed of light. Therefore we should never be able to see the early moment of big bang because the photons emitted then were all gone past us! How can you see something when there is no photons to be seen? It is like you driving a Tata, I am driving a BMW.We start at the same place. You are the galaxy and I am the photon. First you and I were together...but the moment you move away from the center with the big bang, I passed you and then you will not see me again. Therefore, looking into the past to see the early stage of the galaxy is itself a fallacy based on a phony concept. The galaxies have to be there 12 billion years ago so we can see it now. At this very moment...you look at all direction you can see 12 billion light years away and still can see billions of galaxies. This means that 12 billion years ago there were these galaxies at those locations giving out light. So there were galaxies that were at least 24 billion light years away ( the one from opposite direction) that were giving out lights 12 billion years ago. So, the universe was at least 24 billion light years in size 12 billion light years ago. If you look into 15 billion light years ago..the universe, from one direction to the other, was at least 30 billion light years in size... The funny thing is...the further we look into the past, the universe was found to be bigger in size...It has to be per my logic. So..the more into the past, the bigger was the universe...Exactly opposite to the big bang that says we start at one point! Also,The scientists say the universe was started from a point no bigger than a bar of soap. This point of extremely hot energy exploded and formed the space and time continuum as we know of today. But facts tell us otherwise. OK..the scientists tell you that, the further you look into deep space, the further back in time you are looking into. You see, it takes time for the photon to travel to you from its source. Therefore, the further into the deep space you look, the further into the past you are looking into because it took the photon more time to travel to you. And, if the big bang is right, the further you look into the past, the higher is the temperature. Yet this is not the case. Also, the further we look into the past, the bigger the universe has become. Big bang predicted a much denser and hotter universe. If the big bang is correct, then you look close to the beginning of time...the universe could be like one big fire ball. You see, the Big Bang theory said that if you can look at the beginning of the universe, you should see nothing but very high temperature. Good luck to you if you want to look for a very high temperature region. Looking around