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Nanoclusters Break Superconductivity Record

KentuckyFC writes "A couple of years ago, two Russian physicists predicted that metal nanoclusters with exactly the right number of delocalized electrons (a few hundred or so) could become strong superconductors. Now an American group has found the first evidence that this prediction is correct in individual aluminium nanoclusters containing 45 or 47 atoms. And they found it at 200 K (abstract). That's a huge jump over the previous record of 138K for a high-temperature superconductor. There are a few caveats, however. The result is only partial evidence of superconductivity and the work has yet to be peer-reviewed. But its mere publication will set scientists scrambling to confirm. And 200K! That's practically room temperature in the Siberian winter."

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  1. still a little chilly by HawkinsD · · Score: 3, Informative

    Maybe not room temperature, even in Siberia: by my advanced calculations, 200 K = minus 100 F (or -73 C).

    But still very exciting.

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    1. Re:still a little chilly by locofungus · · Score: 4, Interesting

      The definition of the kelvin scale is 0K is absolute zero and 273.16K is the triple point of water. These two points are by definition.

      Now the triple point of water is 0.01C

      Hence the melting point of ice is 273.15K

      Note, therefore, that a change of 1K only equals a change of 1C to the limit of experimental error.

      Tim.

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    2. Re:still a little chilly by __aagctu1952 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Maybe not room temperature, even in Siberia

      O RLY? ;)

      But yes, if this actually works in practice it's indeed exciting - while a room temperature superconductor is the Holy Grail of materials science, a 200 K superconductor is a great leap forward. A critical temperature of 200 K would make it possible to cool it with ordinary dry ice (CO2 sublimates at around 195 K) instead of LN2, which is much more expensive and difficult to handle.
    3. Re:still a little chilly by RealGrouchy · · Score: 4, Funny

      Now if they can make a superconductor at 640K, that should be enough for anybody!

      - RG>

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  2. Re:GODDAMIT by fructose · · Score: 5, Funny

    Not everyone lives in a "-ium" country. And IUAPC swings both ways. Get used to it.

  3. Re:GODDAMIT by EricR86 · · Score: 4, Funny

    If you prefer the slang version it's "GODDAMMIT" or "GODDAMNIT", there's no entry for your "GODDAMIT" in urban dictionary. Or if you wish to be proper, there's always "God damn it". Get used to it :).

  4. in soviet russia even our electrons by museumpeace · · Score: 5, Funny

    put up no resistance...

    oh never mind. the idea was Russian but the result was in the US

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  5. Dry Ice by BlueParrot · · Score: 5, Informative

    Carbon dioxide ( or dry-ice ) is bellow 195K at standard pressure, so this material wouldn't even need liquid nitrogen for cooling. If this can be made to scale it would without doubt give countless of applications.

    1. Re:Dry Ice by imsabbel · · Score: 3, Informative

      Not everything larry niven wrote in ringworld is literal truth....

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  6. What's a "strong" superconductor? by Rogerborg · · Score: 4, Funny

    Isn't that like a "strong" Superman?

    What would that make a "weak" superconductor? A conductor?

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    1. Re:What's a "strong" superconductor? by TheLink · · Score: 3, Informative

      Not sure. I'm no expert but I believe that many higher temperature superconductors lose their superconductivity if exposed to strong magnetic fields. You could say these are weak superconductors in a way.

      Whereas the "conventional" liquid helium superconductors can retain their superconductivity in very strong magnetic fields.

      Being able to "tolerate" strong magnetic fields is very useful if you actually are intending to use the superconductors in many interesting applications - like MRI scanning devices, or maglev stuff and so on.

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    2. Re:What's a "strong" superconductor? by ParanoidJanitor · · Score: 4, Informative

      There is a limit to how much current superconductors can carry before they become non-superconducting (depends on the material and the cross-section of the specific chunk of material.) A strong superconductor will be able to carry more electrons while remaining in the superconducting phase.

  7. Re:minus 73 ! by somersault · · Score: 3, Funny

    Haven't you heard? Global warming means that the north pole is already booked for rainforest plantation next year. Though superconducting maglev rides do sound fun..

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  8. Exact? by TimothyDavis · · Score: 5, Funny

    A couple of years ago, two Russian physicists predicted that metal nanoclusters with exactly the right number of delocalized electrons (a few hundred or so) could become strong superconductors.

    That is the number range for exact ?
  9. Re:Grain of salt by tepples · · Score: 3, Informative

    The result is only partial evidence of superconductivity and the work has yet to be peer-reviewed. But its mere publication will set scientists scrambling to confirm. Why the hell did they publish before peer review? That ain't how science is supposed to work. The article "Preprint" on Wikipedia appears to disagree with your assessment.
  10. Re:GODDAMIT by dwater · · Score: 4, Funny

    (in a deep Northern Brittish Accent) you mean Scottish?
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  11. Dis ain't that significant by Ancient_Hacker · · Score: 3, Insightful
    It's a big jump from superconductivity in 45 or 47 atoms and usable superconductivity.

    For instance, a usable superconductor has to be able to tolerate a strong magnetic field, i.e. substantial current. Plenty of alloys are superconducting but cannot carry much current.

    And very basic: temperature is a very hazy concept when applied to a small cluster of atoms. What's the acceptable range of energies? Very significant.

  12. Re:Grain of salt by PhysicsPhil · · Score: 4, Informative

    Why the hell did they publish before peer review? That ain't how science is supposed to work.

    It is common practice in many scientific disciplines to publish a preprint of work before it is submitted for publication. This has the advantage of rapidly disseminating advances to the scientific community and to the world at large, since it's a public server. In the case of work in competitive fields, posting a preprint helps establish priority in who did what first.

    Because it's not peer reviewed and the preprint server is open to all, preprints must be taken with a grain of salt. Their value depends largely on the author's reputation within the scientific community. If the person who published this work is known to have produced good work in the past and/or works with those who have produced reliable work, the report within the preprint is generally taken at face value.

  13. It's cool, but NOT because of superconductivity by FuzzyDaddy · · Score: 4, Insightful
    This looks like a great piece of work, particularly on the theoretical side.

    However, it's really unclear if it's possible to make a BULK superconductor out of this. The effect depends on a nanocluster having the correct number of atoms. Once you put two together you have - a nanocluster with the wrong number of atoms. Which is to say, a little piece of aluminum. Perhaps you could have a bunch of cluster that were separated enough to be weakly coupled so you could maintain the superconducting state, but allow current flow. But there's a whole lot of "ifs" between here and there.

    What I find exciting about this is the ability to theoretically predict the properties of nanoclusters (to say nothing of fabricating and measuring them.) Understanding nanoclusters is a step in the direction of engineering bulk materials from first principles with the characteristics you need. You know how much time and effort went into discovering Halfnium as a component for a dielectric in transistor fabrication? Imagine if that could have been discovered by running a supercomputer for a while until it found the compound with the desired properties. THAT is where this will ultimately go.

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  14. Re:GODDAMIT by philspear · · Score: 5, Funny

    You know, if it weren't for us and our aluminum, you'd be talking about "das aluminium" right now.