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Internet Sites Biased Towards Supporting Suicide

Posted by kdawson on from the might-as-well-live dept.

Believe It Or Not, I Care About You writes "According to a new study in the British Medical Journal which examined the search results for various suicide-related search terms, the most common results supported or encouraged suicide. Wikipedia was one of the most prevalent sources of information, particularly on suicide methods, although the Wikimedia Foundation itself does not encourage suicide. Other studies have shown that media coverage has an effect on suicide particularly with respect to influencing the method chosen. Interestingly, this study notes that suicide rates actually decreased with increased Web usage in England, perhaps because support is readily available to anyone who wants it."

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  1. KILL YOURSELF FAGGOT!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    KILL YOURSELF FAGGOT!!!

    1. Re:KILL YOURSELF FAGGOT!!! by Shadow+of+Eternity · · Score: 5, Funny

      KILL YOURSELF FAGGOT!!! This might be the only time that a post like this is both constructive and relevant to the subject at hand.
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      A bullet may have your name on it but splash damage is addressed "To whom it may concern."
    2. Re:KILL YOURSELF FAGGOT!!! by Satan+Gave+Me+a+Taco · · Score: 5, Funny

      Don't forget that at one point in time, it was considered acceptable to blame AIDS on homosexuals and make fun of them. Sometimes when things seem their darkest, you just need to try to stay HIV-positive.
  2. No surprise there. by McDutchie · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Interestingly, this study notes that suicide rates actually decreased with increased Web usage in England, perhaps because support is readily available to anyone who wants it."

    The desire for suicide stems from desperation, from having no way out, from not being heard or understood by anyone. The "support" of suicide provides those with suicidal tendencies with a way out, and gives them the feeling that they are heard and understood. This then decreases the actual risk of suicide.

    1. Re:No surprise there. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      You can't describe suicide with just one variable, but you are almost hit what psychologists believe is a major factor: close social integration. In places where it is harder for an individual to be forgotten due to larger families and better 'tribal' ties, the suicide rate is the lowest. For example, the vast majority of Latin America has extremely small suicide rates as do many Middle Eastern countries. The highest suicide rates are in Asia. This phenomena has been extensively studied in Japan which has an extremely high suicide rate. It has been noted that it is extremely easy to fall under the radar and just be completely ignored in Japan. Hopefully the extremely active online social networking in Japan will help reduce the suicide rate there.

  3. Nice to know... by The+Ancients · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...although the Wikimedia Foundation itself does not encourage suicide.

    Glad to see they cleared that up.

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    1. Re:Nice to know... by explosivejared · · Score: 5, Funny

      That's not true according to the Wikipedia article entitled "Wikimedia's Stance on Suicide" that someone (... cough... wasn't me...) just created. I quote:

      It is the Wikimedia Foundation's firm belief that every person contemplating suicide should in fact go through with the act. Every emo kid, poor person, mentally unstable person, SCO executive, Microsoft programmer, hippie, environmental activist, and President of the United States et al would do the world a great service by just ending it all.

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  4. Biased study to begin with by DocJohn · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Well, gee, if you search for only websites that offer "suicide methods" (as most of the researcher's search terms were constructed), it's not surprising you're going to find exactly that -- a lot of websites that are biased toward providing suicide methods.

    The researchers stacked the deck at the onset by carefully defining their search terms to focus exclusively on "suicide methods" (not reasonable other search terms, like suicide crisis, support, help, etc.) The one non-biased search term ("suicide") shows zero pro-suicide websites in the top 10 search results on the 4 search engines the researchers used.

    Read my full response at the BMJ:

    http://www.bmj.com/cgi/eletters?lookup=by_date&days=1#193559

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    1. Re:Biased study to begin with by MrMage · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I feel like I'm being a bit obvious by saying this, but by looking into "suicide methods" they weren't looking into anything related to suicide, but merely the existence of censorship or crummy search engines.

      I see the good intentions, but they're treating a new age technology as if it were an older medium ("Suicide risks looking for methods clearly need help shoved at them instead").

      I'll be frank here. If I were to search for suicide methods, and instead find myself inside a trap of help advertisements, I'd be sent even further down my path to kill myself because it's obvious I no longer have a say in the information that's provided to me.

      Long comment short, the study was merely there for a pro censorship campaign.

  5. protip by TurinPT · · Score: 5, Funny

    Ok emos everywhere, this is how you do it.

    Stand at the top of a tall structure and make sure that there is something relatively soft below.

    Tie cheese wire around your neck - tight enough that it won't slip off under tension but loose enough not to choke you.
    Tie the other end to something solid on top of the structure. Make sure that there is a good six or seven feet of slack.

    Now stand at the edge and glue your hands to the side of your head. Wait until your hands are glued solidly to your head.

    Now jump off the structure. It'll only hurt for a second, when the cheese wire runs out of slack and slices through your neck. The overhang should stop you from bashing your now-severed head against the wall of the structure when the cutting motion jerks your body backwards.

    This has the excellent effect of causing whoever finds your body to think that you have pulled your head off.

  6. Bad science. by davolfman · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If you read the study itself, it's weighted almost entirely for people actually searching for ways to do the deed. Of course it mostly returns results instructing people how to do it, that's what they told the search engines to give them! This isn't science, this is stupidity!

  7. Re:Obvious by rhakka · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I wish people would differentiate suicide more often.

    Whenever people talk about suicide, we typically picture some really depressed person in a funk offing themselves.

    But what if life really isn't worth living anymore? What if you're slowly losing your mind? Terminally ill? Old and sick? A threat to others?

    There are forms of suicide that are not the sudden, "Oh they had so much to live for" kind of trauma you're talking about. I wish that were acknowledged more often instead of this ridiculous "culture of life" crap out there that fails to acknowledge that quality of life is important too.

    Personally, I don't see the point of saving up my entire life just to pay part of my medicals bills in my last year or two of life. I'd prefer to save up to enjoy retirement.. preferably early.. and when I start really failing, ending it all on MY terms.

    Sure I might feel different then.. but I might not too ;) time to do some research...

  8. Out with a bang. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny
    ...extremely small suicide rates as do many Middle Eastern countries.

    Yeah, but when they do go out, they go out with one hell of a bang!

    1. Re:Out with a bang. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Funny: Yes.

      But brings up a real question: in the minds of the bomber, Is it really suicide?
      Or is it on par with the (not suicidal) soldier that throws him/herself on the grenade to protect is platoon?

      /AC wants to know
      //knows this is unlikely to be responded to

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