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Weak Rivets May Have Sped Sinking of Titanic

Pickens writes "Metallurgists studying the hulk of the Titanic argue that the liner went down fast after hitting an iceberg because the ship's builder used substandard rivets that popped their heads and let tons of icy seawater rush in. They say that better rivets would have probably kept the Titanic afloat long enough for rescuers to have arrived, saving hundreds of lives. The team collected clues from 48 Titanic rivets and found many riddled with high concentrations of slag, a glassy residue of smelting that can make iron brittle. To test whether this extra slag weakened the rivets, scientists commissioned a blacksmith to make rivets to the same specifications as those used to join steel plates in the hull of the Titanic. When the plates were bent in the laboratory, the rivet heads popped off at loads of about 4,000 kg. With the right slag content they should have held up to about 9,000 kg. Even a few failures because of flawed metal would have been sufficient to unzip entire seams, because as faulty rivets popped, more stress would have been placed on the good ones, causing them to break in turn. The shipbuilder, which is still in existence, denies it all."

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  1. terrorists? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    You mean it was the terrorists?

    1. Re:terrorists? by aproposofwhat · · Score: 2, Funny
      No - Harland and Wolfe are good, Protestant Unionists.

      As any fule kno, the Catholics are the terrorists in Belfast :P

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  2. Titanic (2007) by sakdoctor · · Score: 5, Funny

    Running time: 194 min.

    If only it had gone down faster.

    1. Re:Titanic (2007) by RuBLed · · Score: 2, Funny

      Have you tried riveting it?

    2. Re:Titanic (2007) by nmg196 · · Score: 2, Funny

      It wasn't very riviting.

    3. Re:Titanic (2007) by aproposofwhat · · Score: 3, Funny
      One of my favourite quotes was from Lew Grade, producer of Raise the Titanic:

      'It would have been cheaper to lower the Atlantic'

      What a cast-iron star that man was :)

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    4. Re:Titanic (2007) by maglor_83 · · Score: 2, Funny

      from time to time botht he Oscar people and the public take leave of their senses
      Yeah real rare occurance that is.
    5. Re:Titanic (2007) by cp.tar · · Score: 3, Funny

      A movie so bad that not even Kate Winslett's tits can save it.

      Ah, one of the two highlights of the movie.

      The other, of course, was Leonardo Di Caprio freezing to death.

      Back to the topic at hand, though: I remember a documentary I saw right about the time Titanic came out, which listed faulty screws as a possible cause of the disaster. So what's exactly new here?

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  3. Wow... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    ...riveting.

  4. I saw a special on Discovery about this by BadAnalogyGuy · · Score: 5, Funny

    I remember in a Discovery Channel special about the Titanic they mentioned that the plates were torn apart at the seams rather than gashed through by the ice. The amount of force with which the ship hit the ice was low enough that it should not have ruptured.

    So many years later, I wonder if it is worth it to hold the shipmaker accountable for the tragic loss of life. The stowaways in the galley climbing the railing at the bow shouting their claims to the throne of the earth were all taken under, and though they found love in the last hours of the Titanic, I can't help but wonder what sort of lives such rapscallions would have lived had they landed in New York City. Instead, at the bottom of the sea is the blue gem, shining brightly in the ghostly beams of the research submarines, so far away from the hands which let it fall to the seafloor in remembrance of the short, brilliant, flash of love in those few hours whose imprint upon Rose lasted her whole life.

    1. Re:I saw a special on Discovery about this by Rob+T+Firefly · · Score: 2, Funny

      But just think how different things would be had they used stronger rivets that would never let go, Jack, they'd never let go...

  5. It was terrorism by BountyX · · Score: 2, Funny

    Those damn terrorists attacked the titanic by planting an ice burg in the middle of the ocean. Solution? Attack Iran.

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    1. Re:It was terrorism by borizz · · Score: 2, Funny

      Silly boy. Iran doesn't have ice!

    2. Re:It was terrorism by Timesprout · · Score: 3, Funny

      Recently Iran has quietly been buying thousands of Zanussi and Smeg freezers. The only possible reason for these purchases is that Iran plan to build a secret glacier with which they can terrorise the region and threaten the US.

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    3. Re:It was terrorism by bytesex · · Score: 2, Funny

      Their snowballs can reach Bagdad now; they're planning on being able to reach Cyprus within the year !

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    4. Re:It was terrorism by TapeCutter · · Score: 5, Funny

      "Silly boy. Iran doesn't have ice!"

      All the more reason to attack them now, if they get their hands on ice making technology we are sunk! Better use nukes to make sure we melt any secret bergs they have hidden in the desert.

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  6. Madness I say. by gandhi_2 · · Score: 3, Funny
    You really expect us to believe there were material defects sometimes in 1909? I call shenanigans!

    Now...if we can start second-guessing some more disasters, we can really get the lawsuits going.

  7. I also saw a special on Discovery about this... by Hamster+Lover · · Score: 4, Funny

    Except in the version I saw the Titanic looked like a giant hot dog running aground in a sea of ketchup. Also, LSD was involved.

    1. Re:I also saw a special on Discovery about this... by hcdejong · · Score: 4, Funny

      Pfft, amateur. The version I saw included a police box and Kylie Minogue.

    2. Re:I also saw a special on Discovery about this... by gbobeck · · Score: 2, Funny

      Pfft, amateur. The version I saw included a police box and Kylie Minogue.

      Yeah, and I bet the Queen of England was in it too...
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  8. Re:How is this new information? by somersault · · Score: 4, Funny

    Aye. That iceberg thing didn't have much to do with it after all, eh?

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  9. Re:oh come on.... by somersault · · Score: 2, Funny

    we'll never let go! Not until it freezes to death, at any rate..

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  10. Global warming by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Well, with global warming, we solved the iceberg problem anyway.

  11. Look on the bright side... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    If not for the weak rivets, we wouldn't have gotten to see Leonardo DiCaprio drown.

    Why is the ship-builder hesitating to claim such progress?

  12. Re:How is this new information? by dziman · · Score: 5, Funny

    maybe just the tip.

  13. Re:How is this new information? by Bootarn · · Score: 4, Funny

    Aye. That iceberg thing didn't have much to do with it after all, eh? The iceberg was made up. They blew up the hull themselves just to get rid of Leonardo DiCaprio.
  14. Re:Who caes about rivets... by Weedlekin · · Score: 3, Funny

    I often wonder why any car makers are still in business considering how many of their products fail spectacularly when driven into trees, stone walls, large pieces of concrete, and other vehicles.

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  15. Re:How is this new information? by Digestromath · · Score: 3, Funny

    The hypocrisy of it all. First they blame an iceberg for sinking a ship and then turn around and say Global Warming is a bad thing. Rest assured if we nip this 'natural occuring ice' thing in the bud our ships will be safe once and for all!

  16. Re:Maritime riveting by The-Bus · · Score: 1, Funny

    My understanding is that there were only a few sets of rivets on one end and a zipper holding each of the sheets. At the time the shipbuilders, the L. Evi & Strauss Company, thought this was the better design, although differing "rivet-fly" prototypes were developed. I guess building seaworthy wessels was never in their genes.

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