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New Spam Site Found Every Three Seconds

Stony Stevenson writes "New figures suggest that 92.3 percent of all email sent globally during the first three months of 2008 was spam. The data from Sophos also indicated that 23,300 new spam-related web pages were created every day during the period, or one about every three seconds. For the first time Turkey's contribution to the global spam problem puts it in the top three offending countries. Compromised computers in Turkey are now responsible for relaying 5.9 percent of the world's junk email, compared to 3.8 percent in the final quarter of 2007."

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  1. ntpdate time.spam.net? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    I love it. I can sync my computer to it.

  2. Ranking is unimportant by EmbeddedJanitor · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Yet again we see ranking used in a silly way. It's the numbers that are important.

    Third placed Turkey and tenth placed UK are wthin a +- 6% band, probably close to the margin of error in the analysis.

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    Engineering is the art of compromise.
  3. I dont get it... by repapetilto · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I never get spam, I have my school email address I use for trusted sites and people while everything else goes to a yahoo account. The yahoo account is filled with spam, but since I only have to check the newest mail whenever I use it its not a big deal. Am I missing something here?

    1. Re:I dont get it... by chromatic · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Am I missing something here?

      Yes; it takes plenty of processor time, electricity, memory, bandwidth, and administrator time to make sure that you don't get spam. Also, not everyone uses e-mail the same way you do. Some of us actually want to hear from people we don't know.

    2. Re:I dont get it... by kylehase · · Score: 4, Insightful
      Even if you only give your private address to your friends, you must have smart friends who NEVER:
      • Included you on a To: or CC: list of recipients,
      • Used your email address to search for you on social sites,
      • Sent you e-cards/e-invites
      That's pretty amazing. I'm sure most of the spam in my "friends only" or "business only" email accounts were not leaked by me but by a trusted party who didn't know better.
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    3. Re:I dont get it... by jimicus · · Score: 4, Interesting

      i think all these anti-spam ideas miss the big picture: if no one bought products from spam, they wouldnt do it. we should be going after the idiots who reply to spam.

      IIRC there was someone who tried an experiment some time ago. They tried to buy some of the v1|4|g|r|4 that they'd seen advertised in spam.

      They couldn't find a single spam which actually led to someone genuinely trying to sell something. I think they concluded that spam had mostly become a pyramid scheme, with a handful of people at the top trying (with some success) to persuade everyone below that they could make lots of money from spam - all they needed to do was buy this mailing list software and that list of email addresses...

    4. Re:I dont get it... by Stellian · · Score: 3, Funny

      ...you must have smart friends who NEVER: Your smart friends must also never store your email address anywhere on their harddrive (for example, the browser cache), so that it can't be picked up by the spam sending bot that infected thier machine and does a global scan for "someone@somewhere". Or, only have friends that never get infected. Between the two, you can either:
      - have only geek friend
      - have no friends
      Take you pick - I don't know what's worst.
    5. Re:I dont get it... by niktemadur · · Score: 3, Interesting

      * Included you on a To: or CC: list of recipients,
      * Used your email address to search for you on social sites,
      * Sent you e-cards/e-invites


      There is an astonishing number of people who've had email accounts for years now, and still do the very first and worst thing you mention in your no-no list. I guess it's the most convenient (read: lazy) way to re-send the same lame joke to fifty people. The CEO of the company I work for keeps doing this in my business account!
      Or those blasted chain emails. I can imagine that many of those were created by spammers harvesting addresses, exploiting peoples' superstitions in machiavellian fashion.

      Back in the days of dialup, when the "Dalai Lama wisdom tidbits, send this to twenty people you know" type pps files were already bugging me beyond belief, some bitch that somebody knew that somebody knew that I knew had the nerve to send out a gigantic list of CC: recipients to hundreds of people, with no message whatsoever, just the headline "Let's see what happens". Needless to say, she was bombarded with hate mail, but it was too late. In a few months' time, I was getting about a hundred and fifty spam mails a day, so I created a new address, notified my inbox contacts and asked them to never, ever put me on a CC: list.

      It worked for a while, then I started getting spam again, and I couldn't figure out why. Then it hit me: "Damn, I used my address to register in Amazon (also buying stuff through its' independent affiliate sellers), Paypal, eBay and the like". Could that be an additional reason?

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    6. Re:I dont get it... by 1u3hr · · Score: 3, Informative
      IIRC there was someone who tried an experiment some time ago. They tried to buy some of the v1|4|g|r|4 that they'd seen advertised in spam. They couldn't find a single spam which actually led to someone genuinely trying to sell something.

      Try it yourself. I just did, went to my trash folder and opened the first mail. Took me to sale-drug.com, which certainly looks like they have stuff for sale (or at least, they'll take my money). No need to take anyone's word for this, we all have plenty of spam.

      After a few months with most of the spam being stock scams, it's back to good old penis enlargers, generic viagra and cialis. It's all so fucking repulsive and insulting.

  4. Re:I hate spam... by zappepcs · · Score: 5, Funny

    If spam gives you a pain in the balls, you are eating it wrong.

  5. Wait a minute by relikx · · Score: 5, Funny

    I thought Turkey was a Muslim country, isn't spam some sort of shoulder meat? Oh right, they're secular.

    1. Re:Wait a minute by EdIII · · Score: 5, Interesting

      isn't spam some sort of shoulder meat ?


      I think you may have answered your own question there :) LOL

      Officially, S.P.A.M originally stood for "Shoulder of Pork And haM". However, it most often referred to as "Something Posing As Meat" and "Spare Parts Animal Meat."

      There are also, completely unsubstantiated of course, rumors that old man Hormel himself thought he was going to hell for his part in creating it...

    2. Re:Wait a minute by p0tat03 · · Score: 3, Funny

      Funny, I would have thought that turkeys would say "bok bok b'gawk!"

  6. Won't sombody think of the children? by cynicsreport · · Score: 3, Insightful

    ..... something really should be done....

    Yes, sir! something should be done about spam!
    And, while we're at it, someone should really do something about domain squatting.
    Oh year, and what about phishing? Why isn't anyone doing anything about that!?
    Seriously, guys; get on it. I'll be watching the third season of Seinfeld DVD.
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    1. Re:Won't sombody think of the children? by 1u3hr · · Score: 4, Interesting
      My idea is that if x% of the traffic coming out of a country is abusive then those controlling..., then 100% of that traffic will just be bit-bucketted at the gateways

      If you block a country because it is relaying spam, it will be switched to go via another country before the week is out. Meanwhile millions of innocent people will find themselves cut off.

      Specifically, if required, then the U.S. of A. should be subject to these same rules.

      You bet. Clean up your own act first. I'm not holding my breath. Easier to blame nasty foreigners.

      Did you RTFA:

      The US continues to relay far more spam than any other country,
      And see the ROKSO list, note the nationalities.

      I live in Hong Kong. About 80% of the spam I get is from the US. And yet I find my emails often bounced from US addresses because of similar enlightened attitudes.

      Most of the world's spam ORIGINATES in the USA, is PAID FOR by USA companies. Your government does nothing to stop it. (What is it, two or three prosecutions in the last 5 years?) American companies lobby to prevent any effective measures to stop spam. Bit bucket Florida and you might make a dent in it for a while. But attack the source, not the routing.

  7. A Rate Comparision by pyrrhonist · · Score: 4, Funny
    Just to give some idea of the scale, this is more than twice the rate at which the human male thinks about sex.

    I didn't think it was possible.

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  8. Was anyone surprised here? by damn_registrars · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I know that my email (especially in my older accounts) certainly matches the rate of spam in excess of 90% by volume.

    And the part about a new spam site created every 3 seconds shouldn't surprise anyone either. As much as people despise spam, there is still money to be made in it. Thats why people continue to send spam, of course. Thats also why people continue to buy new domain names to sell discount "drugs" and "software".

    This just tells us what many of us already knew. The spam problem will continue to get worse until we actually apply a economic solution to this economic problem.

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  9. Re:Facebook by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    You think it's bad now, wait until the spammers can faceboogle you.

  10. ASSP is the answer by Lershac · · Score: 4, Informative

    ASSP

    30 minutes to install on an exchange server... filters out all the spam.

    I run it on all my clients, and they average about 95% of all mail intercepted as spam with a zero false positive rate.
    http://assp.sourceforge.net/

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    Chuck
    1. Re:ASSP is the answer by Lershac · · Score: 3, Funny

      well if we have exchanged email in the past, he is on the whitelist and I will definitely get his awesome product!

      Or I can blacklist his ass.

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      Chuck
    2. Re:ASSP is the answer by gujo-odori · · Score: 3, Interesting

      You're proud of 95% efficacy? I work for one of the well-known anti-spam companies, and if our efficacy *fell* to 95% that would be considered an emergency. Our overall efficacy is >99% and the spam categories I manage are closing in on five nines.

  11. summary is misleading by martin-boundary · · Score: 3, Interesting
    Phrases such as "Turkey's contribution to spam" are highly misleading. Turkey doesn't actually contribute significantly to spam. How many Turkish language spam messages have you got recently in your mailbox? How many spam messages advertizing a Turkish company's products? None? Then Turkey's contribution to spam is negligible.

    What everyone gets in their mailbox are mainly American spam messages intended mainly for Americans, sent via hijacked Windows computers around the world. There's also a significant fraction of messages intended for a handful of other rich countries, but the only third world country seriously contributing their own spam is probably Nigeria.

  12. Re:open season by calebt3 · · Score: 3, Funny

    Your post advocates a

    ( ) technical ( ) legislative ( ) market-based (*) vigilante

    approach to fighting spam. Your idea will not work. Here is why it won't work. (One or more of the following may apply to your particular idea, and it may have other flaws which used to vary from state to state before a bad federal law was passed.)

    ( ) Spammers can easily use it to harvest email addresses
    ( ) Mailing lists and other legitimate email uses would be affected
    ( ) No one will be able to find the guy or collect the money
    ( ) It is defenseless against brute force attacks
    ( ) It will stop spam for two weeks and then we'll be stuck with it
    ( ) Users of email will not put up with it
    ( ) Microsoft will not put up with it
    (*) The police will not put up with it
    ( ) Requires too much cooperation from spammers
    ( ) Requires immediate total cooperation from everybody at once
    ( ) Many email users cannot afford to lose business or alienate potential employers
    ( ) Spammers don't care about invalid addresses in their lists
    (*) Anyone could anonymously destroy anyone else's career or business

    Specifically, your plan fails to account for

    (*) Laws expressly prohibiting it
    ( ) Lack of centrally controlling authority for email
    ( ) Open relays in foreign countries
    ( ) Ease of searching tiny alphanumeric address space of all email addresses
    ( ) Asshats
    ( ) Jurisdictional problems
    ( ) Unpopularity of weird new taxes
    ( ) Public reluctance to accept weird new forms of money
    ( ) Huge existing software investment in SMTP
    ( ) Susceptibility of protocols other than SMTP to attack
    ( ) Willingness of users to install OS patches received by email
    ( ) Armies of worm riddled broadband-connected Windows boxes
    ( ) Eternal arms race involved in all filtering approaches
    (*) Extreme profitability of spam
    ( ) Joe jobs and/or identity theft
    ( ) Technically illiterate politicians
    ( ) Extreme stupidity on the part of people who do business with spammers
    ( ) Dishonesty on the part of spammers themselves
    ( ) Bandwidth costs that are unaffected by client filtering
    ( ) Outlook

    and the following philosophical objections may also apply:

    ( ) Ideas similar to yours are easy to come up with, yet none have ever
    been shown practical
    ( ) Any scheme based on opt-out is unacceptable
    ( ) SMTP headers should not be the subject of legislation
    ( ) Blacklists suck
    ( ) Whitelists suck
    ( ) We should be able to talk about Viagra without being censored
    ( ) Countermeasures should not involve wire fraud or credit card fraud
    ( ) Countermeasures should not involve sabotage of public networks
    ( ) Countermeasures must work if phased in gradually
    ( ) Sending email should be free
    ( ) Why should we have to trust you and your servers?
    ( ) Incompatiblity with open source or open source licenses
    ( ) Feel-good measures do nothing to solve the problem
    ( ) Temporary/one-time email addresses are cumbersome
    ( ) I don't want the government reading my email
    (*) Killing them that way is not slow and painful enough

    Furthermore, this is what I think about you:

    (*) Sorry dude, but I don't think it would work.
    ( ) This is a stupid idea, and you're a stupid person for suggesting it.
    ( ) Nice try, assh0le! I'm going to find out where you live and burn your
    house down!

  13. The ratio is completely wrong for that. by khasim · · Score: 3, Interesting

    This just tells us what many of us already knew. The spam problem will continue to get worse until we actually apply a economic solution to this economic problem.
    Yes, in theory.

    The reality is that a single sale of "herbal \/1agr4" can mean a profit for the spammer. The cost of spamming is that low for them.

    In order to make it economically unsound for the spammers, you'd have to make it economically annoying for the rest of humanity. More annoying than simply putting up with the spam.

    UNLESS we get rid of the stupid CAN-SPAM law and allow each state to institute its own anti-spam laws and allow citizens in those states to sue the spammers for violating those laws.

    Yeah, this will hurt "legitimate" fucking "email marketing" companies ... but in my experience those do not exist. Any legitimate company would view the 50 different legal requirements as a cost of doing business. The same as it is with insurance companies.
  14. While American spam offers girth and inches... by jddj · · Score: 3, Informative

    Turkish Spam KISS YOU! IT KISS YOU!!! It loving sex with all the womens of the world!