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A Peek at AT&T's New Browser, Pogo

An anonymous reader writes "Ars Technica takes a look at Pogo, a browser from AT&T with new features like a 3-D history and bookmark view. The browser's currently in a private beta and Ars' comments aren't all necessarily glowing — particularly in the areas where performance is concerned. 'It requires Windows XP SP2 or later or Windows Vista, and its minimum hardware are surprisingly steep: a 1.6GHz processor, 2GB of RAM, and a video card with at least 256MB of VRAM. Seem like a bit much for a web browser? It is, and as we found out, these requirements posed some major challenges for us during our testing.'"

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  1. Bloat by MozeeToby · · Score: 5, Insightful

    And people complain about firefox being bloated? You should not need a dedicated graphics card to check your email.

  2. Re:2GB of RAM??? by tomtomtom777 · · Score: 5, Funny

    It's not just made for Vista. It's modeled after Vista too.

  3. Re:Doesn't sound very good by bugnuts · · Score: 4, Funny

    Are you saying ATT won't have Pogo Stick?

  4. Linux by prakslash · · Score: 5, Funny

    Since it doesn't run on Linux it will never achieve widespread mainstream acceptance on the desktop.

    1. Re:Linux by Bodrius · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Usability (through better visualization)?

      History and bookmark handling are not scaling well to modern use of the web.

      They were designed for a much smaller Internet - back when Yahoo was a comprehensive catalogue of the web, and you could honestly bookmark a short list of all your favorite sites.

      Anyone who had to go through the browser history after a long week, to find 'that link that had some information but I cannot find in google again', has experienced this first hand.
      All the links look the same, all your searches get in the way, etc.

      Anyone who has had a few dozen disposable bookmarks by trying to avoid the history search also has experienced this first hand.

      Bookmarks lose their value as they accumulate, and reality is that you often cannot know the crucial link will be crucial until after the fact - after you got another piece of data. Specially for technical documentation.

      Pogo seems to be addressing two major usability problems that exist today.
      At this point, I mostly consider those to be non-existent browser features by now. Repeating an Internet search is typically more time-efficient.

      Now, I don't really think painting it all in 3D really helps - but what they seem to be trying to fix are real problems.

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  5. How well does it spy on you? by Jeremiah+Cornelius · · Score: 4, Funny

    I want it to report simultaneously to the DHS and the NSA, when I change my vest and underpants.

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    1. Re:How well does it spy on you? by palewook · · Score: 4, Funny

      wonder how many backdoors at&t will build into it

  6. Eye candy and Apple's success by BadAnalogyGuy · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I work with a guy who believes that the reason Apple succeeds is that they accelerate the graphics with hardware. This gives them the ability to do transitions like Expose on the desktop and the smooth sliding on devices like the iPhone.

    Pogo seems to be along the same lines. But where Apple's eye candy is functional, the Pogo eye candy looks like flashy for the sake of flashy. The 3D UI looks nice, but it's about as functional as Vista's Windows-Tab app selector.

    I don't particularly like Apple, but they do seem to have strong design concepts. The design follows the function in their products, as far as I understand. But Pogo looks like they implemented it because the technology was cool, not because they had some difficult problem to solve.

  7. Re:of course it needs Windows by Constantine+XVI · · Score: 4, Informative

    Except this is based on Gecko (Mozilla).

    Then again, that might explain the bloat

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  8. Problems aside... by noidentity · · Score: 5, Funny

    On the plus side, it reports all your browsing activity to AT&T.

    AT&T
    Your world delivered
    (to us)

  9. 3D history? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    So, I'll need special glasses to see my history?

  10. Pogo? 2 Gb?? To run a browser??? by $RANDOMLUSER · · Score: 5, Funny

    Walt Kelly was right: "we have met the enemy, and he is us".

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  11. I can't help but wonder... by Steauengeglase · · Score: 5, Funny

    ..since I'm an AT&T customer, it feels like there are two unasked questions.

    1.) What is AT&t going to do to make sure that this is the only browser that I use? Certainly something more than a silly EULA. How about automated litigation if I step a foot off Ma Bell's Farm?

    2.) What can Bell do to offer me more choice with their browser? In other words how can they help me by blocking anything other than a heavily proxied port 80. Mail, it should sit on AT&T's webmail, where they own it and copyright whatever I say. FTP, thats for terrorists. We need more choices, you know, like cable TV.

  12. Re:2GB of RAM??? by krewemaynard · · Score: 4, Funny

    Does anyone else see a problem? Yeah.

    I need more RAM.
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  13. Re:2GB of RAM??? by Darundal · · Score: 4, Informative

    Typical home systems have 4 gigs of RAM? Last I checked, most systems were coming with 1-2 gigs of RAM, and the majority of systems people have are running between 512megs and 1gig.

  14. Re:2GB of RAM??? by Jarjarthejedi · · Score: 5, Insightful

    At least 2GB of RAM for a typical home computer? I want some of what you're smoking. Wow...I must live in the wrong area with my 1GB primary computer, which I use to play games on. Guess I should be upgrading so I can run this web browser...

    I mean seriously. 1GB is still a perfectly reasonable amount of ram. I can run 80% of modern games (GAMES! We're talking Call of Duty 4 without lag here) and my system isn't up to spec for this WEB BROWSER! And the default response is, of course, 2GB isn't that much. I mean, no one has less than 3 right now right?

    Sometimes even those of us who love technology and play computer games can't afford an upgrade (and before you talk about how cheap ram is, my laptop won't take standard ram, and has 2 512 cards right now. It would be ~$60 to upgrade to 2 gigs, and I'd have to either have a tech out or send it in. Yay Laptops) No Web Browser should require more RAM than Call of Duty 4. Ever.

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  15. Re:Biased review... by Lord+Grey · · Score: 5, Funny

    ... a fully patched IE 7 running as non-administrator on Vista ...

    Semantically equivalent to, "I drive a Pinto, but only in reverse."
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