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BitTorrent Use Up 24% Since November

dingalig writes "It looks as though the MPAA's fight against The Pirate Bay and other BitTorrent sites isn't going very well. Ars Technica reports that BitTorrent traffic is up by 24% since before the holidays. 'BitTorrent traffic spiked over the December holidays. After a peaking at almost 12.5 million downloaders on the 200 most popular files, traffic dropped at the beginning of January — about the time that school started up again. But one figure that will prove alarming to the content creation industry is that the numbers are higher now than they used to be. "The baseline has been elevated," notes [BigChampagne CEO Eric] Garland. "Not only did the spike happen, but the bar was raised."'"

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  1. WGA Strike? by LostMyBeaver · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Sounds like people started downloading more films when the TV shows started running out.

    I'm guessing this has more to do with the fact that when there's nothing on TV to watch, people are more likely to download a film.

    MPAA should sue the WGA

    1. Re:WGA Strike? by Mordok-DestroyerOfWo · · Score: 5, Funny

      I only download for the articles...

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    2. Re:WGA Strike? by Digestromath · · Score: 4, Funny

      Yes... 700mb .avi articles about "Teenage Lesbians" and thier "Raunchy Shenanigans Vol.11." Must be a fantastic read judging from the abstract.

    3. Re:WGA Strike? by mutube · · Score: 4, Funny

      Yes... 700mb .avi articles about "Teenage Lesbians" and thier "Raunchy Shenanigans Vol.11." Must be a fantastic read judging from the abstract.

      Link please.
  2. Mainstream now... by ArIck · · Score: 5, Insightful

    With all the publicity TPB et al has gotten with those ridiculous actions of MPAA, BitTorrent is now a mainstream. The same thing happened with Napster and the same thing would happen with private torrent sites when MPAA starts attacking them.

    1. Re:Mainstream now... by Chief+Wongoller · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Actually, bittorrent is not yet a mainstream, but it will be. An average of 8.2 million downloaders at any one time may seem a lot until you consider that there are nearly 350 million broadband subscribers worldwide (wikkepedia). So only 2.4 percent are downloading at any one time. This percentage can only grow and surely will grow considerably, not because people want stuff for free (but that is nice), but because only bittorent can truly let us watch what we want when we want. Who wants to go back to old tv, that dictates to you when you watch, when watching bittorent files is so more flexible? Not me. I'm really suprised that more people don't use it, but I know as soon as people try it, theyr'e hooked and there's no going back. The tide will be unstoppable and those folk blind to its inevitability are just a bunch of Canutes.

    2. Re:Mainstream now... by ArIck · · Score: 5, Insightful

      BitTorrent is as mainstream as YouTube is. With 100 million views a day at YouTube (wikipedia), it averages to less than 8.2 million at any one time making BT more popular than YouTube.

      And yes I agree with you.... BT could only go up

    3. Re:Mainstream now... by somersault · · Score: 4, Funny

      So you're saying that this could be the year of BitTorrent on the desktop?

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    4. Re:Mainstream now... by Ethanol-fueled · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Youtube is just a bunch of crap now. If their execs were smart then they would make deals with the content providers instead of bending over backwards in the face of every takedown notice. They could improve video quality and have a free section and a pay section. They could offer bulk or single-watch streaming packages or bill based on monthly bandwidth. People are willing to pay for a decent, easily accesable solution('Torrent rocks but it's usually far from convenient). People would pay a little extra to not have to have 20 different accounts with 20 different providers. Until somebody comes up with a feasible multimedia streaming or download solution, I'll be firing up the 'Torrent.

  3. Victimless by Repton · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "We need to highlight that [copyright infringement] is not a victimless crime and take appropriate actions."

    Anyone know any victims? Artists or creators whose works are widely pirated but who struggle to make a living?

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    1. Re:Victimless by mollymoo · · Score: 5, Insightful

      You seem to be implying that depriving someone of something doesn't make them a victim as long as it doesn't leave them struggling to survive. Which is of course complete and utter bullshit.

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    2. Re:Victimless by MikeFM · · Score: 5, Insightful

      It's like victimizing royalty by taking away land they aren't using so that commoners can hunt for food. Sure then they might not have quite so much bounty going to waste but then who cares? I'm not going to spend my time, energy, and money defending them.

      Being civilized means respecting the rights of others to life and liberty - it doesn't mean giving others the right to be rich. I have no problem with people being rich but I feel no need to defend their wealth. I don't believe that being rich makes them more productive so from my point of view it's better if they have to continue struggling for their wealth by doing useful things like producing more music, movies, and other cultural resources. Sitting on their ass enjoying their wealth isn't really a boon for humanity although most of us wouldn't mind being able to do so.

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    3. Re:Victimless by Plutonite · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Or maybe he's implying, correctly, that sharing digital information for free does not deprive anyone of anything, let alone make them penniless.

    4. Re:Victimless by evanbd · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Ideas are owned by society. They are what make up our culture. Sometimes we, as a society, have seen fit to let their creator exercise some limited degree of control over them. That does not mean any one person can own an idea any more than they can own a sunset.

  4. Re:Gotta love statistics. by FoolsGold · · Score: 4, Informative

    If they're counting all torrents, then yes the content/patches of WoW would certainly count for a fair bit.

    But you'd have to be rather naive to think Linux distros and other legal content (not including WoW) are in any way a measurable part of the total torrent traffic. I have no stats of course (this is Slashdot), except to say that whenever you look at the top listings of torrents being hosted on say TPB, I can see TV shows, Movies, Games and Music. No Linux.

  5. Like churchill said by Cryacin · · Score: 5, Funny

    I don't trust any statistic that I didn't make up myself.

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  6. Re:Gotta love statistics. by richie2000 · · Score: 4, Informative

    That could simply be because Linux distros don't need to use TPB since they have their own trackers.

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  7. Prohibitions encourage what is prohibited by frkbros44 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The current authoritarian tactics are an obvious failure, and are causing substantial collateral damage to innocent victims of miss-targeted enforcement efforts. The solution isn't more of the same, but rather to accommodate human nature and evolving technology.

    The only reason why P2P file sharing is a problem is because copyrights have been extended into perpetual special privileges. Copyrights were only needed in the first place due to the limitations of physical media and the brick and mortar distribution system. Both of those are now obsolete - as are the artificial market distortions justified by their limitations.

    Just as the Internet offers a far more efficient distribution system, it also offers the ability to shorten the time require for a creator to recover fair value for his work before releasing (some) rights to the public domain. A modified dutch auction over the Internet provides the means for artists to be fully compensated at the moment they finish their creation. Once the artist has received fair value for a recorded performance, there isn't any need to attempt to control how consumers choose to use that recording. The P2P file sharing that today is called piracy, and used to justify ever more abusive intrusions into the rights of all people in order to enforce unnecessary copyright restrictions, becomes highly valuable viral promotion and distribution that benefits the artist.

    Remember that the artist has already been cut of meaningful earnings from the reproduction and sale of recordings by the typical "all rights" contract terms imposed by the legacy record labels. Only a tiny percentage of artists earn a living from royalties on their recordings. For most artists, the primary benefit of selling records is just the publicity - they still make most of their money from live performances. File sharing and "word of mouth" on the Internet are much more effective promotion than the paid advertising of the legacy labels.

    1. Re:Prohibitions encourage what is prohibited by Jah-Wren+Ryel · · Score: 4, Insightful

      What difference is there between making a physical _copy_ and an electronic one. A physical copy always has an incremental cost - that of the physical medium.
      An electronic copy has an incremental cost so small that it is typically in the noise.
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  8. Not all torrents are piracy! by MichaelCrawford · · Score: 4, Insightful
    BitTorrent is crucial for the economical distribution of large-filesize media. Many Open Source and Free Software publishers use BitTorrent to distribute their installers. Jamendo, a distributor of Creative Commons-licensed music, uses both BitTorrent and eMule.

    BitTorrent is also critical to unsigned musicians such as myself who offer downloads of their music from their websites. P2P allows bandwidth to be contributed by one's fans, whereas direct HTTP downloads can bankrupt a struggling artist if one of their tracks becomes a sudden hit.

    And yes I know there are many music hosting sites such as MySpace. But it's better for musicians to offer downloads from their own sites rather than to use a host.

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  10. Sorry, everyone! by rubicon7 · · Score: 5, Funny

    I'll throttle my client back a bit.

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  11. there you have it - a victim by commodoresloat · · Score: 4, Funny

    Lately I've been downloading Gilligan's Island. You should be ashamed of yourself. If it wasn't for your downloading, Mary Ann from Gilligan's Island would never have turned to drugs. Thanks to you and your ilk, she was busted smoking pot in her car, no doubt contemplating how illegal downloading has destroyed her life.
  12. Yarr, scurvy MPAA will be dancing the hempen jig. by falsemover · · Score: 4, Interesting

    In Australia a CD / DVD be around $40 (about US$37). Since this represents about $37 o' pure greed, it's no wonder t' people be votin' with their mouse. I say, when t' sea be rough, jump on t' starboard ship.

    Arrr, ahoy landlubbers, we be PIRATES and YOU MPAA will be dancing the hempen jig.

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  13. Mandriva Spring Edition must be popular by flyingfsck · · Score: 4, Funny

    Well, obviously lots of people must be downloading the latest Mandriva Linux...

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  14. Re:Most torrents ARE 'piracy' by JasterBobaMereel · · Score: 4, Insightful

    From the list of torrents downloaded please subtract

    Linux Distributions
    Other 'free' Software
    Non-Copyright Music
    Non-Copyright Movies
    Creative Commons Content

    You still have a very large number of downloads ...but then how many of these people would have bought the content they downloaded?

    The industry always complains that they have lost $x million in sales but they do not allow for the fact that the vast majority of the downloaders would never buy what they downloaded?

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  15. Bittorrent via Miro by Burz · · Score: 4, Informative

    Miro is a video feed aggregator, player, search tool, downloader with torrent support; recently out of beta and has improved a lot.

    The Miro folks are even trying to help people distribute their videos via bittorrent, esp. as a way to get full SD and HD shows published at low cost.

    It kind of competes with Youtube, but with better video quality. It even handles feeds from Youtube.

  16. Re:Your labor is owned by society by evanbd · · Score: 4, Insightful

    No, ideas and physical objects are fundamentally different. I see nothing wrong with limited term copyrights -- 20 years, maybe less. Tell me, in what way would your incentive to create software be diminished if you could only hold the copyright for 20 years? Do you have any belief that you can make money from the 20 year old version of your software? If not, why shouldn't it pass into the public domain?

    Ownership of physical objects makes sense because if I take your car, then you no longer have a car. If I copy your software... you still have your software. So there's no fundamental moral argument for the ownership of software. There is, however, a strong practical (not moral or ethical) argument for ownership of limited term copyrights, intended to promote creation of such works.