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U. of Chicago Law School Blocks Internet Access

Scott Jaschik writes "While some individual professors have banned laptops from classes at various colleges, the University of Chicago law school is going further, cutting off wireless and wired access in its classrooms to confront what officials see as out-of-control Web surfing. The story was first reported in the Above The Law 'legal tabloid' late last month. Students and the university's CIO question the strategy." Things will get interesting when Sprint WiMax service lights up in Chicago later this year.

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  1. Where I come from... by MozeeToby · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If you spend all your class time surfing the web, you should fail.

    If your students are able to pass without paying any attention to you, you must not teach very much in your lectures. And if you don't teach anything, well, why should they pay attention?

    1. Re:Where I come from... by compass46 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Because actual learning isn't just about passing a damn test. It's about intellectual curiosity and absorbing ideas from others which in turn spark new ideas within yourself. Too many people are simply satisfied with being able to memorize someone else's words without ever having formulated their own unique and creative thoughts. These people pass tests but they're boring as hell.

  2. What the hell??? by TripMaster+Monkey · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This isn't high school, it's college . The people there are paying good money to be there (well, at least their parents are...). If a student wants to cheat himself of the maximum benefit of a very costly education bu dicking around on the Web during lectures, that should be his lookout. As long as they're not bothering other students, I don't see how this is an issue.

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    1. Re:What the hell??? by LurkerXXX · · Score: 5, Insightful

      When lecture time is wasted because a professor has to repeat his question twice for all the students that aren't paying attention, it hurts the quality time of the other part of the class who do want to get their money's worth for the class. It is an issue.

      The folks surfing during class aren't just cheating themselves. They are cheating the other people in the class who are trying to learn.

  3. Cue the knee jerk reactions... by vtscott · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Please, it's not as if they've banned their law students from accessing the internet completely. They're just not providing them with a convenient way to play flash games and read blogs during class. I graduated from college about a year ago, and as someone who normally sits in the back of the class I can tell you that a large percentage of the class would just browse the internet idly while the professor lectured and sometimes even play games like WoW. This got to be very distracting when trying to concentrate, because one would have to ignore movement on laptop screens and frantic clicking. I would hope law students would be a bit more mature and would simply be browsing the news or chatting with friends, but when they're doing that they're definitely not getting the most out of their lectures.


    That said, overall I don't have a problem with students wasting their tuition money (or their parents' tuition money) by browsing the internet in class all day. But this isn't some power grab to squelch independent thinking. These students are free to browse the internet in their dorms, or the library, or the dining halls, etc. It might be poorly thought out, but I think people (or at least you) are freaking out over nothing.

    1. Re:Cue the knee jerk reactions... by JonSimons · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Mod parent up!

      Those that sit and surf the net while in class are complete assholes. Don't bother coming to class if you're not going to productively participate in lecture or if you're just going to distract others that can see your screen.

      Not to mention that it's also just blatantly, obliviously, and childishly rude to the lecturer.

      The same things go for talking on your cell phone in confined spaces.

    2. Re:Cue the knee jerk reactions... by ZorinLynx · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The problem is professors who REQUIRE class attendance even if you fully understand the material.

      I've had to take classes on subjects I was already fluent in, such as various programming courses, and in some cases the professors require attendance or they deduct points.

      If I'm forced to be there even though I don't need to be, I'm going to sit in the back and either surf the web or do homework on my laptop. Why should my time go to waste?

  4. Instead, just force people to make a decision by Idaho · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The right solution is, IMO, to simply ban laptops from being open during lectures. It sends the same message as people using laptops during meetings basically: if you can't be arsed to even pay attention (to the lecture, or the meeting), why are you there in the first place. For meetings it may be the case that you are basically "forced" to attend, however this is seldom the case for lectures (at least at my university).

    So I fully understand lecturers who urge (or force) people to make a conscious decision *either* to stay in the lecture room and (at the very least pretend to) pay attention, or if you don't feel like paying attention, want to browse the internet, or absolutely *have* to chat with your neighbour about the previous weekend, can you please just go to the lunchroom next door, thank you so much and don't let the door hit you on the way out. Because it's not like anybody is *forcing* you to be there. If you think you'll do fine by reading the lecture sheets and/or the book, you're free to do so (and in many cases that's perfectly possible, too).

    If you want to take notes during the lecture (the excuse everyone uses), paper still works just fine, as it has for ages.

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  5. Re:About Time! by Uebergeek · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Um... no, you're completely wrong. The lawyer has numerous ethical duties to his client. The most notable of these duties is a duty of zealous representation - the lawyer's personal feelings have to be put aside to represent the client's interests. The lawyer also has a duty as an officer of the court to not make false statements to the court (judge/jury) and to not counsel or assist the client in acting illegally. Maybe if you were paying attention in your mandatory ethics class in law school, rather than dinking about on the internet on your laptop, you would have learned some of this...

  6. Re:About Time! by BytePusher · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I suppose next citizens will want every single state and federal law posted on there so they can try to interpret it themselves!

    The parent makes one really good point. I was recently talking with a friend of mine just fresh out of law school. Aside from learning the language and protocol of courtrooms and some law theory a huge portion of a law degree today is learning to use some very expensive law databases. These for profit databases are the _only_ practical means of knowing the law. It seems to me, that of all the things our government could spend money on, making the law and cases knowable to the general public at an accessible price to everyone would be somewhat high on the list.