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U. of Chicago Law School Blocks Internet Access

Scott Jaschik writes "While some individual professors have banned laptops from classes at various colleges, the University of Chicago law school is going further, cutting off wireless and wired access in its classrooms to confront what officials see as out-of-control Web surfing. The story was first reported in the Above The Law 'legal tabloid' late last month. Students and the university's CIO question the strategy." Things will get interesting when Sprint WiMax service lights up in Chicago later this year.

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  1. Banning LAPTOPS?! by FatSean · · Score: 5, Funny

    I can understand banning net access, that is often a temptation during a lecture.

    Am I supposed to go back to WRITING my notes? This is 2008 for fuck's sake.

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    1. Re:Banning LAPTOPS?! by explosivejared · · Score: 5, Funny

      I was about to blast you for making a corny old joke, but I looked at your name and thought better of it. I understand your people's proud and ancient culture. We are accepting of all walks of life here. Your writing on stone tablets makes the whole of society richer. I want to thank to thank you for holding against the evils of technology and actually making life worthwhile.

      By the way, GUIs nowadays really are so easy that a cave man could use them, if you ever got the inclination.

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  2. Time to transfer . . . by The+Zen+Cow+Says+Mu · · Score: 5, Funny

    To the University of Californy. I hear they still have some internets there.

  3. Apparently Law Students Can't Be Trusted by areReady · · Score: 5, Funny

    One would think that an institution of higher education, particularly one dedicated to post-graduate studies, would be able to trust its students to know what was good for them.

    If they spend too much lecture time on the intarblags, it will be reflected in their grades.

  4. Next up... by abolitiontheory · · Score: 5, Funny

    University of Pheonix follows suit.

  5. Cue the knee jerk reactions... by vtscott · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Please, it's not as if they've banned their law students from accessing the internet completely. They're just not providing them with a convenient way to play flash games and read blogs during class. I graduated from college about a year ago, and as someone who normally sits in the back of the class I can tell you that a large percentage of the class would just browse the internet idly while the professor lectured and sometimes even play games like WoW. This got to be very distracting when trying to concentrate, because one would have to ignore movement on laptop screens and frantic clicking. I would hope law students would be a bit more mature and would simply be browsing the news or chatting with friends, but when they're doing that they're definitely not getting the most out of their lectures.


    That said, overall I don't have a problem with students wasting their tuition money (or their parents' tuition money) by browsing the internet in class all day. But this isn't some power grab to squelch independent thinking. These students are free to browse the internet in their dorms, or the library, or the dining halls, etc. It might be poorly thought out, but I think people (or at least you) are freaking out over nothing.

    1. Re:Cue the knee jerk reactions... by JonSimons · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Mod parent up!

      Those that sit and surf the net while in class are complete assholes. Don't bother coming to class if you're not going to productively participate in lecture or if you're just going to distract others that can see your screen.

      Not to mention that it's also just blatantly, obliviously, and childishly rude to the lecturer.

      The same things go for talking on your cell phone in confined spaces.

  6. Instead, just force people to make a decision by Idaho · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The right solution is, IMO, to simply ban laptops from being open during lectures. It sends the same message as people using laptops during meetings basically: if you can't be arsed to even pay attention (to the lecture, or the meeting), why are you there in the first place. For meetings it may be the case that you are basically "forced" to attend, however this is seldom the case for lectures (at least at my university).

    So I fully understand lecturers who urge (or force) people to make a conscious decision *either* to stay in the lecture room and (at the very least pretend to) pay attention, or if you don't feel like paying attention, want to browse the internet, or absolutely *have* to chat with your neighbour about the previous weekend, can you please just go to the lunchroom next door, thank you so much and don't let the door hit you on the way out. Because it's not like anybody is *forcing* you to be there. If you think you'll do fine by reading the lecture sheets and/or the book, you're free to do so (and in many cases that's perfectly possible, too).

    If you want to take notes during the lecture (the excuse everyone uses), paper still works just fine, as it has for ages.

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  7. Re:What the hell??? by LurkerXXX · · Score: 5, Insightful

    When lecture time is wasted because a professor has to repeat his question twice for all the students that aren't paying attention, it hurts the quality time of the other part of the class who do want to get their money's worth for the class. It is an issue.

    The folks surfing during class aren't just cheating themselves. They are cheating the other people in the class who are trying to learn.

  8. Re:Where I come from... by compass46 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Because actual learning isn't just about passing a damn test. It's about intellectual curiosity and absorbing ideas from others which in turn spark new ideas within yourself. Too many people are simply satisfied with being able to memorize someone else's words without ever having formulated their own unique and creative thoughts. These people pass tests but they're boring as hell.

  9. From a professor by supercrisp · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I teach courses in literature, most frequently poetry, at a major Southern university.

    This semester I've been trying to decide how to deal with students texting in class and with students who use laptops recreationally in class. I haven't come up with an ideal solution, but I'm leaning toward banning cellphones. The laptop thing is harder; many students use them to take notes and for reference, which is laudable. I think I might tell students using laptops to be prepared to e-mail me notes on demand at the end of class so that I'll know who's using a laptop to take notes and who's goofing off.

    So that's background. I'm posting in response to some ideas from the student perspective that I see repeated here.

    Several posters say that students are capable of multi-tasking. This is true, but research indicates that you're not capable of doing anything well nor of retaining it when you multi-task.

    Several posters suggest that they should be allowed to be the judge of what's worthwhile. I'm all for agency, but if you decide to tune out, you might miss something that would interest you. Furthermore, some material isn't so exciting, and though a teacher should attempt to generate interest, some students expectations are unreasonably high when it comes to the entertainment value of literature. Maybe, too, it would be well to look on a lecture as a form of work.

    A few people say they can pass without paying attention in lectures. That is probably true. I often find myself dumbing down my lectures, assignments, and exams so that students who have tuned out during class can pass. If I fail too many students, my enrollments go down, my evaluations suffer, and I may even lose my job, as I am on one-year contracts and get rehired based on student evaluations. If I do that, for fear of my job, the content of the course suffers.

    Finally, a few people here say lectures are outdated and that content should be online. What about procrastination; would students just shrug off all this content until finals? What about dialog; will all exchange in your life take place via chat? What about seeing others modelling an interest in material only understood or valued by a minority? Do you want to give those faculty who are already distant from students one more excuse to tune you out completely?

    I guess I'll conclude by saying that the small minority of students who text in class or play on their laptops in class are the worse students in my class. They waste a lot of my time asking me about things covered in class or begging for favors and special attention. And they tend to earn poor grades. I wouldn't want to be their boss and certainly not one of their fellow employees. Though as their boss, I could fire the lot of them, and that would be very gratifying.