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Microsoft Quietly Offering Ad-Funded Version of Works

mikesd81 writes "News.com reports Microsoft has finally started offering an ad-funded version of Microsoft Works in some countries. Users who run the software see a small ad as they are writing their document or editing their spreadsheet. Although the program has the ability to update its set of ads online, today it runs mostly ads for Microsoft and a few partners, all of which ship with the product itself. Microsoft remains cagey on the details of where you can find Works SE. The company has been testing Works SE in 5 countries: The United States, France, Canada, Poland and the United Kingdom. It is available only through select computer makers and Microsoft won't say which computer makers those are. However, it seems Sony is offering it in the US."

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  1. Works? by calebt3 · · Score: 5, Funny

    It still exists?

    1. Re:Works? by arivanov · · Score: 3, Funny

      Wrong question.

      The right one is "It works?"

      Disclaimer: this is not a flamebait. I just spent half a day fighting to convert a document produced with this oxymoron into something that could be read.

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    2. Re:Works? by sconeu · · Score: 2, Funny

      That's a well known PC oxymoron -- "Microsoft Works"

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    3. Re:Works? by Plutonite · · Score: 4, Funny
      Speaking of oxymorons and innuendo and such: did anyone notice the rackspace ads running on the top bar here on slashdot?

      ..its going that extra mile, reaching a little deeper

      If you need a partner, it's Rackspace! No comment.
    4. Re:Works? by David+Gerard · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Pfft, have you ever tried opening a complex Office or Word document in Microsoft Office? As awesome a product as it is, it's downright lousy for handling things like image filters and pixel-perfect positioning on Word documents. It tries, yes, and sometimes it does OK, but it's far from perfect. That's because Word actually lays out the page according to the printer driver that happens to be default on that particular PC today. So Word is, quite literally, not compatible with the same version of itself on the same operating system.

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  2. Microsoft Works by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Is that like "military intelligence" or "jumbo shrimp".

  3. worst for portability by v1 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    MS Works is currently the #1 trouble child for us to do data migration from older systems.

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    1. Re:worst for portability by davolfman · · Score: 5, Insightful

      To be honest I'd never suggest it with OpenOffice available in this day and age it just makes no sense. The value of Microsoft products in compatibility and when you can get a more compatible product for less money Works has no reason to exist except for widespread ignorance of the existence of OpenOffice.

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  6. Placement??? by cliffiecee · · Score: 2, Funny

    I bet the ad floats RIGHT over the cursor. Gently bobbing around as you type.
    (Don't worry, it'll be mostly transparent, so you can sorta see what your typing.)

  7. Slightly OT: Microsoft Office 2007 by blind+biker · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Is there anyone else besides me whom Microsoft Office 2007 drives completely bonkers? I have never had the gross misfortune of using such an unfriendly POS of an office suite, in my life. The only reason I did use it, was because I had to include some Powerpoint slides into a .ppt file prepared by my boss - so I HAD TO use the company-wide office suite - MS Office 2007 - even though otherwise we are quite free to use whatever we prefer. So I use OO.o usually and just publish my works in .pdf.

    Anyhow, it was a traumatic experience. "Where the eff is "Save as"? And how do I insert a slide? OK, how do I center-align this text? No, I don't want to insert Wordard or multimedia clips, thank you. Just a slide. And then save the file under a new name."

    For me, the value of an office program, like for example Powerpoint or Impress, is in the speed I can create the presentation (for example) and how good it will look in the end. OO.o Impress is more than adequate in that sense - Powerpoint 2007, well, it failed me. Same with OO.o Write vs Word 2007 - plus the added argument that OO.o creates standstds compliant documents which I will be able to open with a reader of my choice or own creation in 40 years from now. But yeah, the fact that I can create it quickly and without logic-killing brain-damaging consequences is the greatest value.

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    1. Re:Slightly OT: Microsoft Office 2007 by InlawBiker · · Score: 2, Informative
      Coming from somebody who uses Office daily, whether I like it or not, I was in agreement with you for a while. Until I got used to the new interface. It is really greatly improved. Sometimes I hunt for a function still but on the whole it's now much more intuitive and easier to get to features without having to scroll through an endless series of drawdowns / pop-outs / more drawdowns.

      Anyway it's about time they did something new with Office. For the longest number of years I was hard-pressed to see any advantage in upgrading between Office 97 - 2003, except for some useful things in Outlook.

    2. Re:Slightly OT: Microsoft Office 2007 by Z34107 · · Score: 3, Informative

      Office 2007 (with the "ribbon") is the biggest thing to happen to the Office suite since Windows 95. Quit whining that they moved the buttons around just that tiny little bit - I found features and said "Oh, wow! I wish that was in other versions of Office, too!" only to realize that it was - I just couldn't find it until now.

      When you start Powerpoint (or any part of Office 2007) for the first time, the little round Office logo in the top left will glow and a pop up will tell you "Here is where the Save As button is!"

      Couldn't find the "new slide" button? When you start PowerPoint, the ribbon will be on the "home" tab. There's a giant button that says "new slide."

      Same thing for center-aligning text. Even with the ribbon, it's the same icon, in the same spot, as every other version of Office since they went to a GUI.

      Save as? Big round button. Center align? Hasn't moved. New slide? Big button labeled "new slide." Hardly "logic-killing" or "brain-damaging." And, you can always have PowerPoint or Office save things as PDFs or JPEGs or bitmaps or what have you, and Microsoft Word has supported RTF at least since Windows 3.11.

      And, if it's what your employer expects you to use, and gives it to you freely, suck it up. The learning curve really isn't that steep.

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    3. Re:Slightly OT: Microsoft Office 2007 by hairyfeet · · Score: 2, Insightful
      Here is MY problem with 07, which was also ONE of my problems with Vista for the two months I ran it (it was also a slow bloated hog, but I digress), anyway here is my problem: What the hell is so hard about having a "classic" mode? I mean, really, with all those programmers would have REALLY have been so hard to put an option to put in into classic mode, say 2000 or XP for Vista and 2000 or 2003 for Office? At least with XP before the Brico Packs and the hacked msstyles came out you could at least switch it to 2K pro with a couple of mouse clicks. Would it really have been so damned difficult to have it revert back to a normal menu?


      It just seems to me IMHO that with both 2K7 and Vista MSFT changed a lot of it just to say they'd done something new. And while there are a lot more folks who say they love the ribbon than the new Vista interface (bread crumbs,WTH? What was wrong with the up button?) there are just as many that were happy with the way things were. Unfortunately in MSFT land you have to upgrade to keep support, at least in the business world. That is why at home I'm happily typing this on my Win2K Pro desktop, which with a 1.1Ghz Celeron and 512Mb of RAM ran better than my 3Ghz gamer rig with 2Gb of RAM under Vista, and if I need to edit a document I have Office 2K with uses about 1/5 the system resources of 2K7 and at least for me is a much easier way to get things done.


      And while I've got nothing against OO.o and often give it to customers on new builds and will try V-3.0 when it comes out, Office 2K is just IMHO a better product ATM. Even with the hidden OSA9 process turned off on this old machine it is just light years faster and more responsive than OO.o 2.X on Windows. Now on the new machines I build for customers it is snappy as well as on my 3Ghz, but for an older office machine like this it really just drags things down. Maybe I'm just getting old, or MSFT programmers are getting lazy, but IMHO Office 2K + Win2K Pro was about the best they've ever put out and have been going downhill ever since. But that is my 02c,YMMV.

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  9. Hi! I'm clippy! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    You might remember me from informational presentations such as "Hi there, are you writing a letter?" and "Are you sure you want a comma there?" and I'm here to talk to you about a wonderful new kitchen product!

  10. Re:What about already existing alternatives? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    In other news, Open Office is being offered WITHOUT ANY ADS for all platforms :-) And unlike Microsoft Works, it can actually read Microsoft Office documents.
  11. Desperation? by Pecisk · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Seemingly OpenOffice.org makes good inroads in OEMs, so Microsoft have to do something to compete. But ad based Microsoft product is rather stretching. I mean, no offense, but it is very hard and annoying to use Microsoft products _sometimes_. Ads means additional annoyance.

    Anyway, it is interesting step to watch and smells like testing waters before rolling out full ad-based Microsoft Office out.

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  12. Since you asked... by symbolset · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Outlook 2007 has some rather interesting features. Typing in the middle of a paragraph - when the cursor crosses the line wrap the cursor is sometimes moved to a semi-random place in the text. That took a little getting used to. The last editor I used that had that problem -- well, I wrote it myself. :-(

    The "invisible text" in HTML emails bug is still present too. It's a holdover from O97. You would think they would fix that. Some people feel that having some of the text of their emails randomly deleted or rendered invisible somewhat hampers their productivity.

    And, like Microsoft Works, Office2007 cannot be completely uninstalled. If you get the trial version or ad supported version as crudware you're stuck with it forever.

    It's shocking that quality like this became the market standard.

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  13. Re:What about already existing alternatives? by dacut · · Score: 5, Funny

    Anyone want to help fund an ad for OpenOffice on MS Works?

  14. Microsoft has been trying to strangle Works by melted · · Score: 2, Interesting

    ... for a looooong time, but someone always screwed up the strangulation by reminding everyone just how much money it brings in. This looks like yet another strangulation attempt.

  15. Old news by jrothwell97 · · Score: 2, Informative

    My Packard Bell machine came with ad-supported Works bundled. I bought it on New Year's Eve, so the fact it's taken four months for this to appear on the front page of /. astounds me.
    And yes, it sucks far more than previous versions of Works.

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  16. Hi, there! by zmollusc · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "Hello, I am calling you to see if you wanted to advertise on our exciting new advertising medium targetted at skinflints who will use crap rather than fork out any money! Hello? Hello?"

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  17. Huh? by CSMatt · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I've heard about converting document formats to PDF, but how do you convert to a document format from PDF?

  18. Re:Oh the questions that arise,,, by Dash+Hash · · Score: 2, Funny

    Does it require/use an internet connection? Not only that, but to protect your children from those horrible, horrible online office suites, we use 95% of your bandwidth at all times!

    Are the ads served up in relation to a keyword search? Yes, but don't worry, we've made deals with companies who use bogus adwords to ensure that you never see something you would care about spending money on (unless it is our product!)

    Does it embed ads in output? Of course! This is just to help you get some income from the documents you create, so you can buy the /real/ version of Works (disclaimer: there is a 100.1% tax of all income earned by you immediately upon later viewing of our ads).

    How long before it is cracked and made to serve up porno ads etc? This unreleased product (yeah, yeah, I know) is the most secure product we have to offer! There are only 23,987 known bugs!

    When are they going to start including technology from this experiment into other MS products? Well, if the EU would just LEAVE US ALONE (HINT! HINT! GO AWAY!) WGA and OGA would be giving you a perfect demonstration right now!

    The list of questions goes on of possible/probable issues with this. No issues exist! As we said, this is our greatest offering ever!

    The public needs to be better educated NOW WAIT JUST A GOSH-DARN MINUTE! What is this "education" you are talking about?! How DARE you attempt to make our shee-, er, customers aware of ANYTHING but what we tell them!

    The rest of your post deserves to be ignored! Propaganda! FUD! Slander! Libel! SUE SUE SUE! DON'T MAKE ME PICK UP THAT CHAIR YOU'RE SITTING ON!!!
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