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OpenSUSE 11.0 Beta 1 Has Been Released
Francis Giannaros writes "The first beta release for openSUSE 11.0 is now available. Some of the highlights include fast package management, KDE 3.5.9 and 4.0.3, GNOME 2.22.1 and an impressive new installer using Qt4 CSS-like stylesheets. Changes behind the scenes include switching to RPM LZMA payload and making RPMs smaller (faster to download), and quicker to decompress (faster installation)."
Please mod the parent down - this is the dodgy malware linky yet again :(
Awful UID - but I have been here ages...
that comments are about the distro and not about Novel.
the year of the Linux desktop!
A horse can't be sick, you know, even if he wants to.
SuSE Linux was my first Linux distro, back when I thought 'I paid money for this, it came in a box' automatically means 'This is better'.
I've moved to other distributions since, but I still think SuSE has the best packaging mechnanics. I'm not talking about their packages/repositories or the merits of apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade. I mean that SuSE better optimise the package transfer and installation.
To my knowledge, SuSE Linux is still the only pre-compiled distribution that patches/upgrades a package by downloading only the changes. They have delta rpms that are much smaller to download than completely new packages.
The linked video would suggest that their new package front end is much nippier also.
Hats off to you.
...see something wrong with x86_64 live CDs do not fit on 700MB, need to be tested with DVD-R?
"Multimedia sucks."
http://jimmac.musichall.cz/images/blog/qt4-rocks.png
Seed Please...more...more...more
SUSE was my first Linux distribution because I could purchase it at BestBuy.... that was many years ago. ./configure
... Windows is a true sandbox OS for me now, useful only for gaming....
I eventually switched to Slackware to learn Linux but decided to switch back to SUSE a few years ago because I wanted to become productive instead of hunting depended software to satisfy
Don't get me wrong, there is noting wrong with the "hands on" Linux systems as I recommend Slackware to anybody who wants to know Linux.
One thing that makes me shake my head is the over hyped Ubuntu distribution, bracing for negative mod points now... Seriously though, OpenSUSE makes it so simple to install almost any program, add Pacman's repository, install Mplayer and it all begins to "just work"...
If you have not tried OpenSUSE, give it a try, I doubt you will regret it.
BTW, I am typing this on my Fujitsu laptop connected to a wireless lan which worked "out of the box"
Everyone who buys Wild Hunt will receive 16 specially prepared DLCs absolutely for free, regardless of platform.
This one:
"To make a long story short: KDE 4.0 is not and never was meant to replace 3.5.x for regular users. The main goals were porting to Qt4 and creating the frameworks to create all the things announced for KDE 4. Frameworks are unfortunately hardly visible to the user, so most things that use them, like plasmoids, panel-functionality etc., will only appear after the frameworks are in place, i.e. starting with 4.1." (see http://news.opensuse.org/2008/04/18/announcing-opensuse-110-beta-1/)
Now that's a useful comment for an end-user like me. It honestly tells me what's not in the package and what not to expect, and it does so in an up-front manner in three short sentences. As such it's a relief from the way you have to dig for this sort of information on the KDE webpage (see http://www.kde.org/).
Don't get me wrong, I like the KDE desktop ... but I just don't want to know about (or have to dig through) the details of how the desktop is evolving. Let alone the vagaries of all those applets starting with a K. This announcement is end-user friendly in that it gets to the heart of the matter (i.e. I can try KDE 4 in SuSE 11.0 if I want to beta-test it, but it won't give me anything new) without me having to wade through pages of details ... or worse an install. My compliments.
Agreed. If only the KDE was so forthright about the release in January instead of trying to cover for the shortfalls of the final 4.0 release by relying on meaningless marketing drivel. They really should have just named it a "developer release" and avoided all this hoopla.
Will the final version of openSUSE 11 include KDE4.1?
If you download the KDE4 LiveCD and want to install it on any system or VM, don't bother! The LiveCD installer is broken. To install the test system, you have to download the DVD.
:-\
Somewhere down this page it lists it as a "most annoying bug."
Damn right...
I recently removed XP and put OpenSuse 10.3 on it. As people before have said, the packman repository makes everything work re:mulitmedia.
The real nice thing is, it just works. I tried Ubuntu before, and Fedora etc etc but went back because a lot of it didn't work or i couldnt be bothered messing around for hours. OpenSuse is so good that I now just have Opensuse on it, and can do all my sysadmin work just as easily. It is THE distro that converted me to Linux full time, so much so im about to take my CLP exam in a few weeks. Windows really is becoming a has been to me, at least.
The other really nice thing about Suse is that it has all the packages one could reasonably expect ready to install. Unlike some other distros that have broken RPMs of such important software as MySQL. Best thing is, it takes literally 3 or 4 clicks to install MySQL onto a system in a usable.
Try it, it really does rock. It's slick, all the packages work! Ok so their alliance to another company sucks but hey, cant win em all.
http://www.writeitfor.us - Writing IT for the IT generation.
It amuses me to no end that we are still so sensitive about the years when Linux was so difficult to install that -even in this day and age- we still go "OMG it has a cool installer! And it's graphical! And it's pretty!"
Don't post malware links to boost your karma asshole.
Interesting reading this story's comments. Seems like slashdot is finally ready to move on... Have people realised it's time to stop whinging about Novel and MS deal, and talk about Suse instead. I mean seriously folks, this is Suse we are talking about, one of the original distros.
Not long ago, there were 3 distros for people who wanted to use Linux on the desktop: Redhat, Mandrake and SuSE. Debian was for servers and slackware was for those who hadn't realised that this is not 1995 anymore. There was still no need for Gentoo as people didn't need to show off their processor speed by comparing their compile times...
Mandrake was the super kool distro that no one took seriously. It was RedHat but with KDE at a time when Gnome was nowhere complete and Red Hat refused to ship the non-free Qt. Red Hat itself was solid and was THE linux distro, they added KDE later on and in Red Hat 7.x, KDE was even usable in Red Hat (before the process of GTK-ifying KDE started in Red Hat 8).
SuSE was the professional distro for people who had money. You could download the packages over the net but not the iso files and not the complete package. Those who did have money said it was good, those who didn't complained that Yast was not free (it wasn't...)
Yast 2 was a huge improvement. The original Yast used to mess up your config files to such a degree that you couldn't edit them with your text editor anymore. Things were not much better in the *drake land. Debian didn't even bother with graphical administrative tools (it still mostly doesn't...)
There were some more user friendly distros as well: Lycoris modified KDE 2.x to such an extent that when KDE 3.x came along, they couldn't port their changes to KDE 3.x and were shipping a modified KDE 2.2 when everyone else was using KDE 3.1 There was Xandros, which tried to resurect Corel Linux by adding Wine to it, only that 70% of the people couldn't install in the first place, there was Lindows and Michael Robertson and the whole running as root fiasco (this was before sudo) and Microsoft suing them and they nearly won, and even before these there was this little startup called OE One which tried to do away with KDE and Gnome by developing a UI based on XUL (yes, the Mozilla XUL) running on Red Hat and Mandrake. Boy was it buggy...
Then Red Hat discontinued its desktop line and lost its prominent position among the community (Ubuntu came along later). Mandrake lost control to its VCs and they effectively fucked the company twice over. It lost focus, momentum and user base and never quite recovered. SuSE was bought by Novel (yes, the NetWare company) and we all know what happend...
Ah, those were the days...
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The one thing we all have to remember is that open source leads to new concepts and market opportunity for small development shops. Just ask Astrum Inc. http://www.astruminc.com/ what astrum did was to develop the first SUSE based Solution Stack using Novell technology. What they produced and what the independent testing reported was a beast of an appliance and Astrum published these reports on its website. This solution described at RSA is the first true Identity based encryption system that can target users who have access to critical data or compliant sensitive data and harden compliance based policies that are compliance mandated. Astrum then did a OEM with nCipher and converted the nCIpher HSM from a 32bit card to a true 64bit card with eDirectory integration. Now if that wasnâ(TM)t enough they then developed a key management system that never exposes any part of the key to a hacker outside the appliance and without making a customer change itâ(TM)s network or put agents on itâ(TM)s storage. I was very impressed as I spoke to representative from Astrum. Now according to nCipher as told to me at RSA this makes the Astrum solution the only solution to meet the up coming FIPS 3 compliance changes and make this appliance very unique in the market space. The problem: The concept from what I could gather was presented to Novell under NDA two years ago at the end of 2006 and promises of concept protection were made and agreements were signed and both worked with business units to ensure no competitive issues may arise. They did not! So Astrum shared with Novell executives the plan that at the end of the day for example map 8 of the PCI requirements to the appliance along with all the major compliances while having the ability to leverage all the security solutions sold by Novell or any other security software based solution that could sit in the network. What happened is Astrum became the first ever to develop and Novell based solution stack using SUSE enterprise server in a appliance only to have it stolen from them!.. Hence the following links. http://sev.prnewswire.com/computer-electronics/20080416/AQW05816042008-1.html http://www.novell.com/linux2/appliance/ So if the solution is potentially a market changing concept as Linux can be why expose a concept to a company like Novell who touts protection in the Open source community, of course they promise protection from Microsoft but who promises concept protection from Novell. When Novell realized the market impact of such a solution they have moved to slowly create competition for little Astrum who is coming to market with out any assistance as promised by Novell. This solution from what I hear from internal Novell had enough potential market impact that it changed a direction for a major software company like it did for Novell. Prior to 07 and from what I understand Novell couldnâ(TM)t spell compliance much less understands an appliance stack approach to compliancy and encryption. Develop for Novell on SUSE or jeOS, and expose a development and market plan, NO WAY!!! I really feel for these guys and have to ask why anyone would trust Novell and are they truly moving to a channel model.