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Ben Stein's 'Expelled' - Evolution, Academia and Conformity
eldavojohn writes "Painting the current scientific community as just as bad as the Spanish Inquisition, an extended trailer of Ben Stein's "Expelled" has a lot of people (at least that I know) talking. It looks like his movie plans to encourage people to speak out if they believe intelligent design or creationism to be correct. In the trailer he even warns you that if you are a scientist you may lose your job by watching 'Expelled.' Backlash to the movie has started popping up and this may force the creationism/evolutionist debate to a whole new level across the big screen and the internet."
adholden points out a site called Expelled Exposed, which asserts that 'Expelled' "is simply an anti-science propaganda film aimed at creating controversy where none exists, while promoting poor science education that can and will severely handicap American students."
"evolution can be talked about in school and ID should not is that evolution is science, and can change as new information is acquired."
I do not see how such precludes ID. Perhaps it precludes a Genesis creation but not ID. Especially as scientists discover greatest aspects of design patterns, and similarities to code re-use in biology.
"Evolution is not based on any traditional truth. It is based on observation, and it's connection to the holy,"
I see quite a few traditional myths in regards to evolution. And I find it's adherents to be quite religious and zealous. They too like to cover the mistakes, misinterpretations and mistranslations of their own as well.
The amount of fraudulent evidence used in many schools to teach evolution is immense. Be it drawings and depictions based on psuedo men derived from a single jawbone or a tooth of an extinct pig. And while those in the know may be aware that these mistakes and frauds are incorrect. These representations are STILL being used to teach kids the religion of evolution (as opposed to the theory of evolution).
But to me, the discussion should not be closed and censored. Such action is far worse than what the Catholic church did to Galileo. At least the Catholic church's stance allowed Galileo to express his views so long as he merely stated them as a theory for discussion rather than declared them fact. Evolutionists are far worse, because they won't even allow discussion on that level.
There are no contemporaneous accounts of Christ's existence (ie firsthand eyewitness accounts written while he was supposedly alive). Please prove me wrong. If you can't show me any "writing from early enough", then show me his bones, some skin cells, anything.
Actually, don't waste your time. There is nothing. The guy almost certainly didn't exist.
Ooh, testy. Is this one of those irregular verbs?
- you PROVIDE facts;
- they DISTORT facts;
- we (right thinking people) have CONCENSUS;
- they (oil company shills) are DELUDED or FRAUDULENT.
Of course, the tone of your post suggests that your position is neither ideological or authoritarian.