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The End of Non-Widescreen Laptops?

Santi Onta writes "Today Lenovo retired the last NON-widescreen laptop they offered (the T61 14.1) from the market, and Lenovo is just an example (Apple, Sony, HP, etc. are the same). I understand the motivation behind all the laptop manufacturers to move to widescreen: they can still advertise that they offer 14.1 or 15.4 screens, but the screen area is smaller, and thus they save more money. Some people might like widescreens (they are useful for some tasks), but any developer knows that vertical space matters! Less vertical space = less lines of code in the screen = more scrolling = less productivity. How can laptop manufacturers still claim that they look after their customers when the move to widescreens is clearly a selfish one? I just wish they offered non-widescreen laptops, even if it were for a plus (that I'd be more than happy to pay)." I've always preferred the widescreen aspect ratio -- vertical matters, but having two nice wide columns always mattered more to me. Until this reader's submission, I hadn't realized that it was such a contested issue. Does this matter?

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  1. Use a desktop by KingSkippus · · Score: 5, Insightful

    any developer knows that vertical space matters!

    I suppose there are developers out there who develop primarily on a laptop. Shoot, I'm even one of them, since we only get laptops at my job.

    But I have a docking station hooked up to a 19-inch LCD that I do almost all of my work on, and the laptop display is my secondary display I use to keep my documentation, watch windows, etc. on.

    I would think that most developers either have this kind of setup or do most of their development on desktops, which are generally more powerful anyway.

  2. I just wish... by Thelasko · · Score: 4, Insightful

    they were the same aspect ratio as an HDTV.

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  3. macurmudgeon by macurmudgeon · · Score: 5, Insightful

    How many people actually write code, or for that matter, any long documents? It mostly about media now days where the ability to watch a wide screen movie is a selling point. And, wider screens are a boon to people who use graphics applications like Photoshop where the extra width gets filled with palettes.

    1. Re:macurmudgeon by MrMacman2u · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I'm not a coder, but as someone who regularly works in graphics design, Photoshop, Web Design, Page Layout, etc... a wide aspect ratio screen is completely invaluable and I have found it frustrating to use the "old" 4:3 style screens for some time now.

      Your natural tendency is to look left and right, not up and down. I have been informed repeatedly of this by people who have "switched" and now favor the wider screen ratio.

      Of course another reason general users probably prefer the widescreen is for viewing movies also, but that's another point all together.

      I, for one, will waste no tears in the death knell of the standard aspect ratio.

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  4. Brevity. Soul of wit. by Zigurd · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Write shorter methods. That is all.

  5. Not only that by dreamchaser · · Score: 4, Insightful

    What is the actual percentage of the market for laptops who are developers? The summary almost makes it sound like it's the entire user base and that manufacturers are ignoring a huge and important market segment.

  6. Form factor by Telvin_3d · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It's not just a case of the manufacturers being selfish. It's a form factor issue.

    The biggest limiting factor on a laptop's width is the keyboard. Almost everything else you can shrink and expand without limitation. Resizing the keyboard is not as easy. By messing with the layout you can add or remove a row of keys but that's about it unless you want to significantly shrink the size of the keys themselves.

    Add to that the fact that every centimeter of extra screen height equals a matching amount of extra case real estate in front that can't be put to very good use, where as extra width lets you expand the keyboard outward.

    So, if you want a more portable laptop any shrinkage is going to have to come from the vertical instead of the horizontal. Also, many backpacks/bags/slip cases have the laptop inserted sideways so one that is smaller in that dimension is easier to get at.

  7. They are looking after their customers... by Anita+Coney · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The percentage of coders in the over-all laptop market is probably less than 1%. The vast majority of laptop buyers want widescreen. The better question is why laptop manufacturers would create a line of laptops for such an incredibly small niche.

    If you think there is a large market for coder/laptops start up a business yourself and make a killing. I won't be holding my breath on that.

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  8. Re:Pixels Are Your Friend by Jeremiah+Cornelius · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The amateur who says "vertical space matters" to developers, never ran a comparison diff on his code.

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  9. We devs are never happy by Captain+Spam · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Whining Dev: "Waaah! This 1280x1024 screen is too small! I can't see all my code on it!"
    Manufacturer: "All right, fine, here's a 1600x1200 screen."
    WD: "Wellll... okay, you live THIS time..."
    DVD Watcher: "Hey! Why can't I watch my DVDs in widescreen on my laptop?"
    M: "Fine, fine, here's a 1920x1200 screen."
    DW: "Yaaaaay! And my desktop looks so much bigger, too!"
    WD: "HEY HEY HEY! What the hell is this? My screen isn't tall enough now! I want more height so I can see more code!"
    M: "But... but that's the exact same screen height you used to have and just bugged for a few minutes ago. It's the width that's-"
    WD: "TALLER SCREEN NOW FOR I AM INCAPABLE OF RUNNING MY CODE EDITOR NOT-MAXIMIZED AND IT IS WHOLLY INCOMPREHENSIBLE FOR ME TO FIND OTHER USES FOR THE EXTRA WIDTH"
    M: *deep sigh*

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  10. Re:Are you kidding me?? by dgatwood · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Why are ACs allowed to post links anyway? That's just asking for abuse. IMHO, link posting should be limited to non-AC posters. ACs should be there for people to express their own opinion anonymously because of fear of repercussions, not provide links to other people's opinions. AC posts should be the exception, not the rule, and they should be a lot more limited than real account posts as a result.

    On the widescreen thing, non-widescreen laptops are going away because of people wanting to watch movies in the car or on airplanes or whatever. That's the only time I'd ever watch a movie on anything other than a large widescreen TV....

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