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AMD's Triple-Core Phenom X3 Processor Launched

MojoKid writes "AMD officially launched their triple-core processor offering today with the introduction of the Phenom X3 8750. When AMD first announced plans to introduce tri-core processors late last year, reaction to the news was mixed. Some felt that AMD was simply planning to pass off partially functional Phenom X4 quad-core processors as triple-core products, making lemonade from lemons if you will. Others thought it was a good way for AMD to increase bottom line profits, getting more usable die from a wafer and mitigating yield loss. This is an age-old strategy in the semiconductor space and after all, the graphics guys have been selling GPUs with non-functional units for years. This full performance review and evaluation of the new AMD Phenom X3 8750 Tri-Core processor shows the CPU scales well in a number of standard application benchmarks, in addition to dropping in at a relatively competitive price point."

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  1. 3 cores sounds "wrong", but... by serviscope_minor · · Score: 5, Informative

    3 cores sounds "wrong" (it should be apower of 2, right?), but with 3 cores, you can connect each core to every other one on an internal bus much more easily than with 4 cores, since you need fewer busses, and they do not need to cross.

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    1. Re:3 cores sounds "wrong", but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Odd numbers violate my obsessive need for symmetry. Excuse me now while I go and touch the door exactly 12 times.

    2. Re:3 cores sounds "wrong", but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful
      AMD have stated before that they intend to also build native triple-core processors.

      And as the GP states,

      you can connect each core to every other one on an internal bus much more easily than with 4 cores
      The beauty of it (from an engineering point of view) is that every core has been designed with 3 HT links. One goes to the memory, and two connect to other cores. So really, in a four-core system, there is an additional latency because information needs two hops to reach all of the cores. Three cores is the max AMD can do while still keeping latency at its lowest.

      I'm not exactly sure if this is how the demoted quad-cores will work as well, but I imagine it wouldn't be too hard to reconfigure the fourth HT bridge (on the disabled core) to act as a short-circuit.
    3. Re:3 cores sounds "wrong", but... by frieko · · Score: 5, Informative

      Then you'll be disappointed to find out you've been buying chips with disabled pieces of cache for years.

      What's going on is out of 500 million transistors, perhaps ONE of them is defective. Whatever cache/core/etc that one transistor is in, is therefore useless. But in no way does this make the rest of the chip 'dodgy'.

    4. Re:3 cores sounds "wrong", but... by Zerth · · Score: 5, Funny

      So trilateral symmetry doesn't cut it for you?

      I suppose it could be worse, you could have some kind of fractional symmetry fetish and only feel normal surrounded by mandelbrot sets and serpenski gaskets.

    5. Re:3 cores sounds "wrong", but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      The Geo Metro was a pretty popular little car in the USA, and it was a 3-cylinder. They don't make 'em anymore though, since after all, it saved people money.

    6. Re:3 cores sounds "wrong", but... by eln · · Score: 5, Funny

      Your reply contains 21 words. Please remove one. Thank you.

  2. AMD does NOT want 3x cores to be too popular by CajunArson · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The idea of reviving quad cores with 1 bad core is nice, but AMD is also playing a dangerous game. It is only in AMD's interest to sell triple core CPUs when the only alternative would be to throw the (large and expensive) die out since it can't work as a quad core. However, if these things became too popular AMD would be faced with the situation of either starving the market, or taking quad cores that actually DO work and intentionally blowing the fuses to make them triple cores.
          I think this might explain the pretty lackluster clockspeeds. Phenom has never clocked well, but when you can buy a 2.5Ghz quad core for not much more than the top of the line 2.4Ghz triple core, it's pretty clear AMD wants to unload these things, but not to make any big waves about it. If anything the triple cores ought to clock much higher and have substantially better power usage... but that is not the case.

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  3. Pricing... by heteromonomer · · Score: 5, Informative

    Looks like AMD's marketing and sales dept isn't being very smart here, pricing them the way they are. X3 chips are $20 cheaper than X4, and $5 cheaper than 2.2 GHz X4s. And with those benchmarks they are definitely not competitive against intel's 2-core and 4-core offerings. Come on guys! If you don't let go of some of the margins and price them aggressively against Intel you're going to die.

  4. Re:where is the power of two by Yvan256 · · Score: 5, Funny

    If I could remember anything about maths I could probably give you a more precise number
    More precise than a Pentium result, anyway.

  5. Why do you care if they are failed quad-cores? by pclminion · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Who cares? Even if the chip was a failed quad core with one of the cores disabled, why is it bad for AMD to sell them as triple cores? Would you prefer they just melt the silicon back down, wasting time, money, and most importantly, energy? I certainly don't.

  6. you can buy one today by zogger · · Score: 5, Informative

    PS3 uses the CELL processor built with 8 cores and one is disabled, leaving you with 7 cores-one for the OS and 6 for games/apps. And it will boot and run a linux image, yellowdog, which is a ported centos. So there ya go, you can buy one if you want one. There's more exact specs at the links, that is a basic and probably sort of flawed summary.

  7. Re:Missed Marketing opportunity by Minwee · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...Christian Fundamentalists who read the Lost Behind novels.

    That's Left Behind. Lost Behind is the less successful spin-off where we discover that everybody who was carried off by the Rapture just got sent to a tropical island filled with Polar Bears.

  8. Re:where is the power of two by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    College algebra? I learned logs in 8th grade.
    I have been doing logs since I started eating solid food.