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Further Details From Soyuz Mishap

fyc brings us some information from Universe Today about what happened to Soyuz TMA-11 when it re-entered the atmosphere late last week. Reports indicate that a failure of explosive bolts to separate the Soyuz modules delayed the re-entry and oriented the capsule so the hatch was taking most of the heat, rather than the heat shields. CNN reports that the crew was in 'severe danger.' They experienced forces of up to 8.2 gravities. NASA officials have voiced their approval of how Russia handled the crisis. They expect to rely heavily on Soyuz spacecraft once the shuttles are retired in 2010.

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  1. Re:We won't always be so lucky by Uncle+Focker · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Never underestimate the power of xenophobia on any public mob.

  2. Re:Russian hardware by Uncle+Focker · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If you want to talk about durability and toughness you just need one word: AK-47.

  3. Built tough. by TripMaster+Monkey · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I'm continually amazed by how robust and dependable the Soyuz modules are.

    They're the Volvos of the space program.

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  4. Can we vote this guy in by Shadow-isoHunt · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Now please?

    "We seem to have gotten away from our concentration on science," said U.S. Rep. Nick Lampson, D- Texas.
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  5. old-fashioned engineering by tetromino · · Score: 4, Insightful
    It's not so much a difference between Russians and Americans as between old-fashioned and modern engineering practices.

    Back in the old days: "We don't fully understand the physics of this thing, so let's make this part 5 times stronger than it has any reason to be, just in case shit goes seriously wrong."
    *kaboom*
    "Heh, good thing we had that margin of error!"

    Modern engineering: "We can shave 0.37% off the cost of the final product by replacing this part with cheaper, lighter materials. The computer model tells us this is perfectly safe to do."
    *KABOOM*
    "Oops, I guess our computer model didn't account for turbulence."

    1. Re:old-fashioned engineering by Skuld-Chan · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Sadly a lot of engineering decisions are made by marketing people and not engineers. Read Ralph Nader's book - unsafe at any speed. The engineers actually designed the car properly, but it was management who changed the design to cut costs at the safety of the car itself.

  6. Re:We won't always be so lucky by inviolet · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Never underestimate the power of xenophobia on any public mob.

    I know you're being flippant, but xenophobia can be very rational.

    Some cultures area more productive than others, and they all compete with each other for resources -- consisting mostly of land, energy, and minds. Sometimes that competition devolves to open war, other times to guerilla war, but nowadays mostly to ideological subversion. The current "all cultures are equivalent" drumbeat is an example of this kind of attack.

    When one culture has developed an efficient pattern -- one capable of producing vast amounts of safety and comfort and making it available in some proportion to all of its members -- then it is rational for that culture to adjust its pattern to breed resistance to changes that other cultures try to introduce into it. Xenophobia is probably the cheapest way to mobilize that kind of resistance en masse.

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