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Is Cheap Video Surveillance Possible?

timholman writes "After a series of burglaries and auto break-ins in my neighborhood, I'm thinking about adding some video security cameras to my home. To me, the object isn't just deterrence — if someone tries to break into my house or my car (parked on the street in front of my house), I'd like to provide a high-quality image of the perpetrator to the police. Inexpensive video surveillance systems, with their atrocious image quality, are nearly useless. The problem is being able to get good image quality at an affordable price. After some research, I've decided that using network cameras to FTP images to a central server over a HomePlug network is the best solution. However, good megapixel network cameras (e.g. Stardot or Axis cameras) can easily cost more than $1,000 each. Has any of you dealt with a similar situation? Is there any way to get reasonable quality (preferably open source) daytime and nighttime video surveillance equipment for home use without paying an arm and a leg? Is it better to go with a couple of expensive cameras, or a multitude of inexpensive cameras? Is paying two to three thousand dollars simply unavoidable if I want to monitor my front and back yards?"

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  1. IQeye by kmsigel · · Score: 5, Informative

    I've been working with IQinvision's IQEye 511 camera (www.iqeye.com) for the past couple of months. It is a 1.3MP camera capable of 15 fps. It communicates over and is powered by 100mbit PoE. I think the street price is somewhere around 600-700 dollars, depending on what you get with it (PoE injector, lens, etc). The camera seems to take pretty good pictures and can deal with pretty varied lighting conditions. It has various ways to retrieve images, like emailing or ftping them to you on a set schedule. Hope this helps.

  2. WiLife by HaeMaker · · Score: 4, Informative
  3. GPL Monitoring Software by JumboMessiah · · Score: 4, Informative

    ZoneMinder It has some really nice features.

  4. Re:Here is a start... by Mordok-DestroyerOfWo · · Score: 4, Informative

    I use mainly low-end Axis cameras in my department. I have 6 set up constantly updating a dedicated server. 2 are done at the only points of entry for an automobile so we can get license plate numbers, 2 are set up on the doors of laboratories, and 2 are set up at the main entrances. The two times we've had to use data from the cameras showed that the thieves were actually people that we knew. The video quality isn't great (800 x 600). But realistically if the burglar isn't somebody you know, the highest quality video in the world won't help the police unless you live in a very small town.

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  5. Step 1) Get used camera 2) download this software by Bananatree3 · · Score: 5, Informative
    Here is some good software for turning many consumer cameras into a computer controlled camera.

    Steps: 1)Go through the list of cameras on the above site, and select one that has the specs you want (good resolution, zoom, etc.)

    2)Check eBay or find a used one.

    3)setup software and install camera where you want it.

    4)Enjoy cheap but hi-res image security.

    Many of the cameras on the list above go for less than $100 in good used condition, and offer many megapixels and good optical resolution. Many of them also have other features like low light mode, or other things that can be controlled by computer software. Good luck!

  6. Re:Seriously, get a dog by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    Not true. Ever watched the show It Takes a Thief? They broke into so many people's homes [with permission] with 'family dogs.' The animals were so use to people, they just wagged their tail after being pet, or he'd quickly find them a treat in the fridge.

  7. Re:Uh, you realize your error, right? by ZorbaTHut · · Score: 4, Informative

    Actually, that wasn't a made up number, though I did forget to link the paper itself. Here it is, direct from the DOJ. Check out the chart on page 9. (2:3:3, not 2:2:3.) Sorry for not making that clearer, though, I should have linked the paper there.

    And yes, the 1.5 million number is possibly an overestimation. It's rather impossible to say, unfortunately - a good deal of that aforementioned page 9 discusses the problems involved in getting that number, and why it's probably inaccurate. However, you can't honestly be claiming that it's an overestimation by two orders of magnitude, which is what your original estimate would require.

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  8. I guess "need" is for each of us to decide by doug141 · · Score: 4, Informative

    Repeating this story is worth being modded down for:

    Where We're Headed
    Robert A. Waters
    You're sound asleep when you hear a thump outside your bedroom door.

    Half-awake, and nearly paralyzed with fear, you hear muffled whispers. At least two people have broken into your house and are moving your way.

    With your heart pumping, you reach down beside your bed and pick up your shotgun. You rack a shell into the chamber, then inch toward the door and open it.

    In the darkness, you make out two shadows. One holds a weapon--it looks like a crowbar.

    When the intruder brandishes it as if to strike, you raise the shotgun and fire. The blast knocks both thugs to the floor. One writhes and screams while the second man crawls to the front door and lurches outside.

    As you pick up the telephone to call police, you know you're in trouble. In your country, most guns were outlawed years before, and the few that are privately owned are so stringently regulated as to make them useless. Yours was never registered.

    Police arrive and inform you that the second burglar has died. They arrest you for First Degree Murder and Illegal Possession of a Firearm.

    When you talk to your attorney, he tells you not to worry: authorities will probably plea the case down to manslaughter. "What kind of sentence will I get?" you ask. "Only ten-to-twelve years," he replies, as if that's nothing. "Behave yourself, and you'll be out in seven."

    The next day, the shooting is the lead story in the local newspaper. Somehow, you're portrayed as an eccentric vigilante while the two men you shot are represented as choir boys. Their friends and relatives can't find an unkind word to say about them. Buried deep down in the article, authorities acknowledge that both "victims" have been arrested numerous times. But the next day's headline says it all: "Lovable Rogue Son Didn't Deserve to Die." The thieves have been transformed from career criminals into Robin Hood-type pranksters.

    As the days wear on, the story takes wings. The national media picks it up, then the international media.

    The surviving burglar has become a folk hero. Your attorney says the thief is preparing to sue you, and he'll probably win.

    The media publishes reports that your home has been burglarized several times in the past and that you've been critical of local police for their lack of effort in apprehending the suspects. After the last break-in, you told your neighbor that you would be prepared next time. The District Attorney uses this to allege that you were lying in wait for the burglars.

    A few months later, you go to trial. The charges haven't been reduced, as your lawyer had so confidently predicted. When you take the stand, your anger at the injustice of it all works against you. Prosecutors paint a picture of you as a mean, vengeful man.

    It doesn't take long for the jury to convict you of all charges.

    The judge sentences you to life in prison.

    This case really happened.

    On August 22, 1999, Tony Martin of Emneth, Norfolk, England, killed one burglar and wounded a second. In April, 2000, he was convicted and is now serving a life term.

    How did it become a crime to defend one's own life in the once-great British Empire?

    It started with the Pistols Act of 1903. This seemingly reasonable law forbade selling pistols to minors or felons and established that handgun sales were to be made only to those who had a license. The Firearms Act of 1920 expanded licensing to include not only handguns but all firearms except shotguns. Later laws passed in 1953 and 1967 outlawed the carrying of any weapon by private citizens and mandated the registration of all shotguns.

    Momentum for total handgun confiscation began in earnest after the Hungerford mass shooting in 1987. Michael Ryan, a mentally disturbed man with a Kalashnikov rifle, walked down the streets shooting everyone he saw. When the smoke cleared, 17 people were dead.

    The British public, already desensitize

    1. Re:I guess "need" is for each of us to decide by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

      The reason Tony Martin took a lot more shit than maybe he deserved (i fully support his defense of his home and the robbers were definitely scum) was because he shot them in the back as they were running away. He was also a cause celebre in much of the English media, not how the article makes him out, and that is why, several years ago now, he was released after only serving 3 years - life of course not even meaning close to life in England anyway. If he had shot them in the face not the back and they were actually inside his home not running away from it then it is unlikely that he would have had a custodial sentence at all - the right of reasonable force being a very long and well respected one in England, despite Blair putting the right of criminals before the law abiding. I'm from Norfolk myself and Tony Martin nothing but support round here. Also, and this i'm not sure of in his case, but farmers are allowed to legally own shotguns, as are sporting shooters etc. Handguns and rifles are nearly impossilbe to obtain legally though.

      So the story as presented is incredibly biased, obviously written to rally the NRA crowd in America. Maybe you made the post for the sake of completion but it should really be modded down for being only half truths and propoganda.

    2. Re:I guess "need" is for each of us to decide by asynchronous13 · · Score: 4, Informative

      In fairness, you should include all the facts. Namely that Tony Martin's shotgun certificate had been previously revoked for gun-related misbehavior. And he shot the robbers as they were fleeing out a window. It's a bit harder to claim self defense when you shoot someone in the back.

      While the outcome does seem unjust, the case was not as lopsidedly unjust as this version of the story makes it appear.