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Warning Buoy Network Protects Right Whales

coondoggie alerts us to a story that is actually a few weeks old now about a network of sonic buoys to listen to right whales, in order to warn ships away from them. On April 10, 22% of the known population of right whales in the world — 79 out of 350 — were gathered at Stellwagen Bank, off of Massachusetts, to feed on a bumper crop of the tiny crustaceans called copepods. The network of smart buoys helps to protect the whales from the roughly 1,500 ships per year that go through this feeding ground on their way to and from Boston.

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  1. New Species I Haven't Heard Of? by pipingguy · · Score: 2, Funny

    What about the whales that are lefty, or even wrong?

    1. Re:New Species I Haven't Heard Of? by deek · · Score: 1

      If they're lefty, or wrong, I guess they're not protected.

      I initially read the title as meaning "whale rights". Which left me wondering what rights does the Buoy network protect? Whales already have free speech.

    2. Re:New Species I Haven't Heard Of? by dgatwood · · Score: 1

      In other news, left whales sue for discrimination. The ACLU is representing them....

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    3. Re:New Species I Haven't Heard Of? by micksam7 · · Score: 2, Informative

      A nice tid-bit of info:

      Right whales got their name from whalers who called them "The right whales to hunt", and gained the nick-name "right whales". More info on Wikipedia as always.

    4. Re:New Species I Haven't Heard Of? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      According to Willie, "Lefty split for Ohio".

    5. Re:New Species I Haven't Heard Of? by jd · · Score: 2, Interesting
      Whales already have free speech.

      If the US Navy's extra-powerful sonar is jamming long-distance whale communication and destroying whale hearing, as has been claimed, then maybe they DO need free speech protections.

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    6. Re:New Species I Haven't Heard Of? by cheater512 · · Score: 1

      Actually thats deliberate but its not supposed to be for the whales. They are just collateral damage.

      The US Navy is really going for the dolphins.
      Trying to distract them because they envy their intelligence.

      They haven't caught on to the mice yet though. ;)

    7. Re:New Species I Haven't Heard Of? by somersault · · Score: 1

      My first thought when I saw the summary was "warning buoy makes it easier for illegal whalers to illegally whale". I thought that perhaps these were just poor whaling material. Obviously not! :P

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    8. Re:New Species I Haven't Heard Of? by Fred_A · · Score: 1

      A nice tid-bit of info:

      Right whales got their name from whalers who called them "The right whales to hunt", and gained the nick-name "right whales". I always thought it was from the other whales saying "wait, you've got the wrong whale !" as they were trying to go away...

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    9. Re:New Species I Haven't Heard Of? by Ren.Tamek · · Score: 1

      They are called right whales because they are the 'right whales to hunt.' Conveniently, they like to swim close to the surface, and after you kill them they will float, which made life easy for the big whaling ships 100 or so years ago. The sea used to be full of them. Now there are 350 left.

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    10. Re:New Species I Haven't Heard Of? by EMeta · · Score: 1

      Typical for such a leftist organization.

    11. Re:New Species I Haven't Heard Of? by JeffSchwab · · Score: 1

      They haven't caught on to the mice yet though. ;) Hyper-intelligent shades of blue are probably more disturbed by the light pollution than by the noise.
  2. Wonderful! by Fluffeh · · Score: 1

    This is the sort of thing that puts a little hope into my generally "empty glass you tard!" sort of heart. If we can get people to put this sort of thing together, and it is actually working as this seems to be then we might still have a little hope of getting through the next few generations with at least some of the animals left for our kids to see.

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    1. Re:Wonderful! by anagama · · Score: 1

      Don't get your hopes up. The Yushin Maru will be on its way soon.

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    2. Re:Wonderful! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Say what?

    3. Re:Wonderful! by operagost · · Score: 1

      After all, there are only 1.5 million named animal species.

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    4. Re:Wonderful! by anagama · · Score: 1
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  3. Huh? by nebaz · · Score: 1

    Your rights underseas? Warning: Whales Network to Protect Rights? Out of order something seems.

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    1. Re:Huh? by clarkkent09 · · Score: 1

      No, it's: Network Buys Whales to Protect Rights

      Not sure I understand it though. I thought networks had enough lawyers to protect their rights, why would they need to buy a country?

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    2. Re:Huh? by Farmer+Tim · · Score: 1

      why would they need to buy a country?

      No, they've bought Jimmy Wales; it's a PR move.

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    3. Re:Huh? by Arancaytar · · Score: 1

      The country is named Wales.

  4. Title by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Am I the only who thinks that the title makes no sense?

    1. Re:Title by dgatwood · · Score: 1

      Yes. The rest of us simply think it makes right jolly good sense. But seriously, right whales are a specific genus.

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  5. Conservative Prevails? by cpugamerbb · · Score: 1

    I was actually hoping for less conservative whales in this world.

  6. SOMEONE HAS TO SAY IT by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This is good news for Cowboy Neal and any of the Slashdot mods who decide to go to the beach..

  7. A better idea? by caitsith01 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I haven't read TFA, but assuming the summary is accurate, this system warns ships away from whales. This, of course, relies on the fact that ships WANT to get away from whales - but couldn't a whaling ship use this to home in on its prey?

    A far more interesting system would be one which warns *whales* away from *ships*. If someone could come up with a cheap system which, upon detection of a largish ship, transmits the whalian equivalent of "Japanese/Norweigan ship approaching!!! Dive! Dive!", then instead of ridiculous chases across the Southern Ocean environmental activists could simply charter a plane and drop thousands of the things around known whale migratory zones. Make the whole thing solar powered and super-long-lasting, too.

    This would be a nice, passive way to fight whaling. I particularly like the idea that we could give whales some technology to fight back against the huge, fast, explosive harpoon-armed whaling technology presently employed by Japan.

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    1. Re:A better idea? by Whiney+Mac+Fanboy · · Score: 4, Insightful

      This, of course, relies on the fact that ships WANT to get away from whales - but couldn't a whaling ship use this to home in on its prey?

      I don't think there's a helluva lot of Norwegian & Japanese whaling inside Massachusetts Bay.

      then instead of ridiculous chases across the Southern Ocean environmental activists could simply charter a plane and drop thousands of the things around known whale migratory zones.

      The area of the Southern Ocean Whale Sanctuary is 50 million square kilometers. I don't think your solution is particularly practical.

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    2. Re:A better idea? by clarkkent09 · · Score: 1

      I don't think we know how to speak whale yet though. If we did, it would work the other way too: "Wow, what a nice bunch of plankton. Come this way, quick!" transmitted by a whaling ship.

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    3. Re:A better idea? by moteyalpha · · Score: 1

      I think that what you suggest is possible, but in a more elegant way. I would suggest that a 'Skinner' box could be used with whales to add the ability to understand the context of the planet and then relate that to other whales. (one way) (another) I have observed dolphins and their family units, and I would say that the potential of an interface language exists. I have been studying this concept for humans. It is possible to relate information without language in visual form. I am merely speculating on this however and it might have unintended consequences considering it would be difficult to stop such a sea culture once started. :) They might unite as one species , unlike humans, and dominate the planet and space. :)

    4. Re:A better idea? by BlueshiftVFX · · Score: 1

      I particularly like the idea that we could give whales some technology to fight back against the huge, fast, explosive harpoon-armed whaling technology presently employed by Japan.

      yeah like lasers mounted on there heads!

      Whales with frickin lasers on them!

    5. Re:A better idea? by Perf · · Score: 1

      They might unite as one species , unlike humans, and dominate the planet and space. :)

      those would be the Wright whales - the ones that fly

    6. Re:A better idea? by Oktober+Sunset · · Score: 1

      They would just get sued by the sharks for patent infringement.

    7. Re:A better idea? by ross.w · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Whales already do this. They can hear ships engine noise from a long way off and whales with experience of being hunted (the ones that get away, if you like) will avoid the sound. Thus the Japanese commercial whaling (scientific, my arse) buggers things up for the multi-million dollar whale watching industry in Australia and New Zealand, because the whales can't tell the difference. Problem is the ships designed to hunt them are faster than the whales and they don't get tired. The whales dive to avoid them, but they have to come up for air sometime. If whaling is such a tradition let them do it the traditional way, in open boats with people rowing. Otherwise it's just a scam perpetrated on a world too gutless to stand up to them.

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    8. Re:A better idea? by StormyWeather · · Score: 1

      Not only that, but I can see whaling ships taking pot shots at them as they go by.

    9. Re:A better idea? by LarsWestergren · · Score: 1

      A far more interesting system would be one which warns *whales* away from *ships*. If someone could come up with a cheap system which, upon detection of a largish ship, transmits the whalian equivalent of "Japanese/Norweigan ship approaching!!! Dive! Dive!", then instead of ridiculous chases across the Southern Ocean environmental activists could simply charter a plane and drop thousands of the things around known whale migratory zones. Make the whole thing solar powered and super-long-lasting, too.

      It is a nice idea, but if it worked I think it wouldn't take long for the whalers to deploy millions of clones of the devices. Soon the whales would be desensetized to the warnings and we would be back to square one.

      Nah, give the whales torpedo firing cybernetics instead. What could possibly go wrong?

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    10. Re:A better idea? by tepples · · Score: 3, Funny

      I don't think we know how to speak whale yet though. And I guess the technique from Finding Nemo (long, drawn-out vowels and exaggerated pitch accent) wouldn't work either.
    11. Re:A better idea? by operagost · · Score: 1

      We could use a cloaked Bird of Prey!

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    12. Re:A better idea? by jasen666 · · Score: 1

      I bet it wouldn't be hard to find a sound that the whales hated or were scared of. It would have a similar effect.

    13. Re:A better idea? by Profane+MuthaFucka · · Score: 1

      No Stephen, you ignorant slut, you couldn't. Those things aren't real. We've talked about it before.

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    14. Re:A better idea? by hdwpowell · · Score: 1

      that's a good idea - and I've read it's something scientists have worked on. (If you're really interested, see a book called "The Urban Whale". The major problem of course is communication - how do you say "dive! dive!" in right whale-ese? you'd think just the sound of a diesel engine propelling a 90,000 ton container ship would be enough to get the message across, but apparently not.

    15. Re:A better idea? by AgentPaper · · Score: 1

      I seem to recall reading something very like that in a Tom Clancy novel a long time ago. In that scenario, a bunch of guys on an American SSN modded the boat's sonar suite to broadcast whale distress calls, and then they went around following Japanese whaling boats with the system turned to full crank. (I guess they had nothing better to do with their $2B super-sub, but I digress.) As one of the sailors put it, "No whale in his right mind is going to get within fifty miles of another whale screaming that he's being mugged."

      I suspect there's not a great deal of scientific accuracy to the idea, but it was good for a grin.

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    16. Re:A better idea? by mazarin5 · · Score: 1

      Yes, but eventually the whales will become confused and then go insane when the buoys start in with the whalian equivalent of "Low battery! Low battery! Low battery!"

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    17. Re:A better idea? by operagost · · Score: 1

      You are obsessed and should seek help for that ugly narcissism you suffer from.

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    18. Re:A better idea? by Profane+MuthaFucka · · Score: 1

      I don't know about obsession, but what I can tell you is that this bitch would look AWESOME with a shot of cum across her face.

      Check her out

      Come to think of it, the dude would also look great with my cock in his mouth.

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    19. Re:A better idea? by operagost · · Score: 1

      Am I supposed to be impressed that you know how to click links on web pages? I am not even bothered that you choose to hide behind a cloud of anonymity. Your posts sound like an insult-bot and I don't think you can pass a Turing test. If you believe that attempting to provoke me is a good use of your time, that is your issue.

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    20. Re:A better idea? by Profane+MuthaFucka · · Score: 1

      I am having trouble working up the courage to send her an email where I confess my undying love. Can you help me out? Put in a good word for me?

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  8. Interesting. The count may be misleading, though. by jd · · Score: 2, Interesting

    DNA studies apparently show that the Right Whales around Australia and New Zealand are not a single species, as had been thought, but two genetically distinct species. This has been found to be the case of other cetaceans - Hector's Dolphin, I think, is another where they had to re-estimate populations because there were multiple species counted as a single one. I don't know if DNA studies have been carried out on the populations of Right Whales of the US coast. Because there are multiple species involved, though, the term "Right Whale" only refers to a physiological description, not a biological one, and should go the way of other dead labels. Problem is, labels are used to define what is protected, so doing that might be harmful by removing essential protections, even though it should be helpful by allowing an accurate description of what is in the sea.

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  9. Where was Greenpeace? by youroldbuddy · · Score: 2

    Present day whaling by Japan and Norway is from plentyfull stocks and government oversight. Right whales are actually endangered and in the US by shipping. Guess who Greenpeace is going after.

  10. Miscounting whales by Harmonious+Botch · · Score: 2, Informative

    There are not 350 right whales in the world. There are approximately 8000-8500 of them.
    There are about 350 right whales in the north Atlantic.

    1. Re:Miscounting whales by kahei · · Score: 1

      It's a different species -- there are 4 species in the genus of which 2 (the north atlantic and north pacific) are critically endangered.

      (the above is roughly accurate -- the generi in question are currently up for re-classification)

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  11. Handy for... by Tastecicles · · Score: 1

    Japanese whaling fleets; now they don't have to search for the whales, now they just hang around the bright orange buoys and wait for them! Fucking smart idea, really.

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  12. Amazing to see by notthepainter · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I live on the Outer Cape in Cape Cod Massachusetts. Herring Cove Beach is about 7 miles from my home. You can just drive to the beach and see them off shore. Now, the bulk of the whale are off shore and can't be seen, but there were about 40 there on Saturday. The whale watch boats are often kept at bay by the Provincetown Police, but even if the police aren't there, the boats do the right thing and stay a bit off. I've seen countless dolphins in a single field of view of my binoculars.

    If you are in the area, you really should go see this. Bring the best binoculars you can, but even if you don't have any, you might see tens of blows per minutes. Long time locals suggest that the shore whales will disappear once the fast ferry starts up, which is in about 2 weeks.

    It is truly amazing. I can't imagine what it is like off shore.

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    1. Re:Amazing to see by TheRealCMJ · · Score: 1

      I went down to Herring Cove beach on Saturday and sat there staring dumbly for a good half hour. The parent is absolutely right - even without binoculars the spectacle of so many whales in one small area is a sight to see.

    2. Re:Amazing to see by sootman · · Score: 1

      I'd love to see it but I'm a few states away. Do you, perchance, have a decent camera and a Flickr page?

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    3. Re:Amazing to see by notthepainter · · Score: 1

      Photos don't do it justice. All you would see is either a telephoto shot of a whale, and those are a dime a dozen, or you would see a wide angle shot showing black dots. Seeing the arching backs, the dolphins leaping, the gulls congregating around the whales' bubble nets and the Gannett's plunge diving.

      This is something to experience, not see.

    4. Re:Amazing to see by sharkytm · · Score: 1

      We were out in Cape Cod Bay on Friday, and saw dozens of humpback whales, and literally hundreds of Common Dolphin. Pictures are up: http://www.sharkytm.com/gallery/capecodwhales

  13. Gwar by street+struttin' · · Score: 1

    And while the wheels keep rolling And another signpost gone All along the road behind Oh can't you hear me calling Like the sad whale song I'm on the road behind Like a sad whale song... Sad whale baby...

  14. A whale of an idea by jqpublic · · Score: 1

    Maybe this will stop complaints about the Old Buoys Network!

  15. Reminds me of another whale saving story by GlobalColding · · Score: 1

    http://www.gadgetking.com/?s=whale French guy Michel André was trying to implement a global Whale Anti-Collision System. Good to see people all over the world care about the animals.

  16. sonic device? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Meanwhile, sonic detector devices are suspected to have an adverse effect on marine mammals, and possibly other aquatic life-forms.

    http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/216520_orcas18.html/

  17. Insert Obligatory Star Trek IV Reference Here by TonyXL · · Score: 1

    Thank you.

  18. Re:Interesting. The count may be misleading, thoug by ResidntGeek · · Score: 1

    Right Whale is only the common name; they have scientific names too, which are unambiguous. Those are the ones used to define protections.

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  19. Will the ships take action though? by jerel · · Score: 1

    This comment will most likely never get read because I'm doing it a day late, but here goes. I've spent my life in, on, and around the sea, specifically the coastline of Southern California, and unless the big ships on the Atlantic are different from those in the Pacific, those big ships won't change directions for ANYTHING! Last time I checked (admittedly it's been awhile) laws had been passed allowing the ships to run without any human on the bridge at all, as long as the ship has suitable automated systems. I've heard many, many stories where a becalmed sail boat in or near the path of an oncoming tanker or freighter was completely unable to raise anybody on any hailing frequency, sometimes with disastrous results. Experience has made me a cynic I guess, but crews of these huge ships are not romantic, caring, Cousteau-wannabes. It's just a job to them, and making port on-schedule is the priority, not cutting your speed in half and posting a watch for a whale that was detected 24 hours ago by a buoy 5 miles away. I hope I'm wrong, and I'm just being an old curmudgeon. But there's no mention of anything other than voluntary compliance, or of any consequences of ignoring the warnings, and to me it just sounds like pie-in-the-sky environmentalism, which is NOT the kind of environmentalism that the almost-extinct North Atlantic Right Whale needs. I give them an "E" for Effort, but on an A/B/C/D/F grading system, that's not much of a grade!

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    1. Re:Will the ships take action though? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Initially, compliance is based on NOAA-based restrictions for the huge LNG tankers transiting the TSS (conditions for receiving their permit).

      Theoretically, operators of large ships are also interested in avoiding the bad PR associated with ship-strikes. You're right: the scope of who's required to care is unclear.