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DOE Pumps $126.6 Million Into Carbon Sequestration

RickRussellTX writes "The DOE awarded $126.6 million in grants today to projects that will pump 1 million tons of CO2 into underground caverns at sites in California and Ohio. Environmental groups call carbon sequestration "a scam", claiming that it is too expensive and uncertain to be competitive with non-coal alternatives like wind and solar. I just hope nobody drops a Mentos down the wrong pipe."

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  1. Re:WTF? by jayp00001 · · Score: 0, Troll

    Can't we just plant trees? I heard that natural swamp ecosystems can be used to purify water better than our industrial plants. We could create a project that actually does something useful.


    Clearly you've missed the enviromentalist wacko point that carbon dioxide is a greenhouse gas, and that's really really bad

    On a less sarcastic note if you have figured out that plants need CO2 to live, then there is probably hope that once you start looking at the so-called science of manmade global warming, you'll discover that it's not science at all.

    To put the project in perspective Kiluea pumps out around 700,000 tons a year, and Pinatubo put out more CO2 in '91 than the entire output of all mankinds exisistence. As it turns out nature responds by (suprise suprise) increasing plantlife. So we are going to offset Kiluea for 1.5 ( to be generous) years by pumping it underground.

    Now if we had a project to buy up the rainforests so they wouldn't be hacked down I might think they are actually doing something about co2 levels.
  2. Re:Why not worry about water shooting out of wells by jo42 · · Score: -1, Troll

    CO2 could always be stored in the Black Hole between Bush's ears.

  3. Given that AGW is a scam.... by Russ+Nelson · · Score: -1, Troll

    Given that AGW is a scam (nobody knows whether water vapor increases or decreases warming, but everybody is agreed that it has a greater effect than carbon dioxide) there should be no wonder that the tactics used to combat it will also be scams.

    In other, shorter words: it's okay to use ineffective methods to address human-caused global warming because nobody knows if there really will be any.

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  4. This makes no sense at all to me by leereyno · · Score: -1, Troll

    Given that we are at the tail end of the carbon cycle for the entire history of the planet, sequestering carbon seems like a rather silly and harmful thing to do.

    In a few hundred million years, there will not be enough free carbon in the biosphere for life to continue existing at its current levels. Life won't die out completely, at least not all at once. Instead you'll have a much more humble level of life on earth, with a few hardy survivors holding on. Eventually either life will find some biochemical engine which does not rely upon carbon, or it will die out almost completely. Which will happen is beyond my ability to predict.

    Satellite photos of the earth that have been taken for decades show that the earth is becoming greener. Our use of fossil fuels is freeing up carbon that plants are using. Contrary to the dire predictions of apocalypse from the Goracle and his crypto-marxist fellow travellers, this is a good thing.

    But even so it is a drop in the bucket. It won't save our planet, though it may delay the demise of its biosphere by a small fraction of a little bit. Our ability to put carbon into the environment is dwarfed by the naturally occurring process by which carbon is removed from the biosphere. All that coal and limestone and oil are the result of carbon being removed from the system over millions of years. We're putting some of it back now, but it won't stay there for long.

    Trying to remove carbon from the environment isn't only useless and a waste of money, it is based upon bad science. This is just another example of the Marxism through other means that defines the modern environmentalist movement, which the DOE is apparently beholden to.

    Sooner or later it will become pathetically obvious that the primary factor behind climate change (either warmer or cooler) is the sun. If the sun's radiation increases, the earth becomes warmer. If it decreases, or is blocked somehow, then the earth becomes cooler. This isn't exactly rocket science. When the day comes when this basic fact can no longer be denied, the crypto-marxists will try to distance themselves from all of their current nonsense while simultaneously trying to find some other scam that they can use to fool the easily led.

    If the earth becomes cooler, which there are indications may be happening based upon sun spot activity, they will undoubtedly try for socialized food production and distribution, and drag out all of their old tired lies about the evils of free markets, which will beguile a new generation of fools and morons. Then again they may surprise me, and come up with something even more atrocious. They're extremely good at telling lies, but then they have to be. If they were not then they'd be relegated to the fringes where they belong.

    Evil never sleeps and stupid never dies. The fact that these asshats with their evil pseudo-religion are still causing trouble after all this time is proof enough of that.

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