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To Curb Truancy, Dallas Tries Electronic Monitoring

The New York Times is reporting that a school district in Texas is trying a new angle in combating truancy. Instead of punishing students with detention they are tagging them with electronic monitoring devices. "But the future of the Dallas program is uncertain. Mr. Pottinger's company, the Center for Criminal Justice Solutions, is seeking $365,000 from the county to expand the program beyond Bryan Adams. But the effort has met with political opposition after a state senator complained that ankle cuffs used in an earlier version were reminiscent of slave chains. Dave Leis, a spokesman for NovaTracker, which makes the system used in Dallas, said electronic monitoring did not have to be punitive. 'You can paint this thing as either Big Brother, or this is a device that connects you to a buddy who wants to keep you safe and help you graduate.'"

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  1. Really... by shawb · · Score: 5, Insightful

    You can paint this thing as either Big Brother, or this is a device that connects you to a buddy who wants to keep you safe and help you graduate.


    I wonder which of these two conclusions the students will come to.
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    1. Re:Really... by Toandeaf · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I'm just amazed that anyone can say that and not realize how Big Brother-ish they sound.

    2. Re:Really... by Woundweavr · · Score: 5, Funny

      a buddy who wants to keep you safe and help you graduate.

      You know, like an older sibling.
    3. Re:Really... by MozeeToby · · Score: 5, Insightful

      As scary as programs like this are (and they are scary) we need to start thinking about when, not if, these kinds of things happen. At least I can see a giant transmitter strapped to my ankle. In 10 years it will be possible to pick up a box of microscopic RFID tags for relatively little cost. In 20 years it will probably be possible to create microscopic GPS systems that radio back their location.

      We know someone, somewhere will develope and sell this or similar technology and we need to know how we are going to answer back. Lobby congress to allow jaming technology? Doubtful that will happen. Create scanners so we can atleast know when we are being tracked? More likely, but only a partial solution.

      Hopefully someone smarter than me can think of a solution to what I think is an inevitable problem.

    4. Re:Really... by moosesocks · · Score: 5, Insightful

      RTFA. This actually is analogous to house-arrest, and would only be used under similar circumstances.

      The students in the program were given the option of either submitting to GPS monitoring, or being placed in Juvenile Detention.

      Whether or not you agree with the concept of house arrest, this seems like a logical extension of that concept to troubled youths.

      Personally, I think this seems to have a much greater possibility of actually working than sticking all of the troubled students together in a prison-like environment.

      At the very least, it's better than any of the other alternatives on the table.

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    5. Re:Really... by Aranykai · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Mod parent up. He or she seems to be the only one who actually read the article.

      This is an option, its when truancy gets to the point that the student is going to be taken to juvenile detention. I would much rather see the kids restricted to their own home and school rather than sent to kiddy jail. The environment there is NOT going to help them much. If anything, its going to further warp their view of authority and government and they will be worse coming out than they were going in.

      As someone born, raised, and schooled in Dallas, I'm 100% supportive of this program.

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    6. Re:Really... by dlcarrol · · Score: 5, Insightful
      I'm the guy that doesn't even think Mr. Wanna B. Truant should have to go to school if he doesn't care to do so (subject to parental authority).

      That said, what is the inherent advantage of putting an obvious I-don't-want-to-be-here in a class "dragging everyone else down" (generality used on purpose, relax)? I mean, really?

      I only see three options

      1. He's self-taught way ahead of the class. Not likely, but possible. So why should he be there?

      2. He hates everything about stoopid skool and would rather play video games Does anyone really believe that forcing him to get a diploma does anything except drain resources from the "education system" and water down the value of a diploma? (I'm assuming that there's some value left beyond becoming-questionable "getting into college")

      3. Likened to #1, he's an entrepreneur and can make his living already Even if he's dealing drugs, why does the educational S.S. have to be involved?

      These are serious questions

  2. Jokes come true by CogDissident · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I always joked that highschool was like prison. Nothing to do (with our poor education budget) but to wait to get out after you've served your 4 years. Now its really going to be true, thats really very sad.

  3. The alternative is much worse by RobertB-DC · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Keep in mind a couple of things:

    * The kids in the program were on the verge of being sent to the Texas Youth Commission, aka Juvenile Detention.

    * Once you're in the TYC, you're likely to be beaten, raped, and held indefinitely.

    When the choice is between being treated *like* a criminal, versus learning to *be* a criminal in Texas highly successful Criminal Conversion System, I think it's pretty obvious why any judge would choose to give the kid an ankle shackle instead of condemning him to (eventual) death.

    Of course, the "choice" is mind-numbingly stupid. Now that the story of the TYC abuses has finally broken, maybe the next legislature will do something about the broken system that turns minor offenders into hardened criminals. Not likely, of course, because nobody ever got voted out of office for putting *too many* men, women, or children in jail.

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  4. Re:Not big brother? by wouter · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It is Big Brother, but according to the article it is only limited to students who ended up at Truancy court. To choose between having an option to continue school life under supervision, or spend your days in juvenile detention, I might just take the first one...

  5. Re:Not big brother? by jedidiah · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If the student is a truant then WHO CARES.

    Give him a shovel and have him work for a living.

    Forcing an extended artifical childhood on people is highly unnatural and
    only leads to an obvious conflict between authority and instinct. If people
    don't want to go to school then don't force them. Schools should be places
    were those interested can get ahead, not some sort of prison. Treating schools
    as prisons and daycare just undermines their alleged goal.

    If you can't keep the truant interested than the school has failed to be relevant.

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  6. Must parents agree? by Nerdposeur · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If only students with a history of truancy are tagged, then I don't have a problem with this.

    I was going to say that I have a problem with it no matter what, but on second thought, I think the question should go to the parents. Minors have limited rights, and if the parents want to monitor them using tools the state provides, in order to keep them in school, maybe that's OK. (Personally, if it were my kid, I would consider this a very desperate measure - it certainly doesn't foster mutual trust and respect.)

    On the other hand, if this is forced on students without parents' consent, then it's a big problem.

    Consider this: parents have a right to know where their kid is at all times; the school should only be concerned about that during school hours. When is the tracking turned off?

  7. Re:I live in Dallas by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    They have to start somewhere. If you look at the history of the US government over the past 100 years, this is exactly what you will see: small, seemingly harmless steps towards bigger and more powerful government that go unnoticed by the masses. Add up those 100 years of government expansion and today you've got a government that absolutely dwarfs the US government of only 100 years ago, both in revenue and power over the people.

    Totalitarianism comes one small step at a time, never in one giant sweep.

  8. Re:Not big brother? by binaryspiral · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If the student is a truant then WHO CARES.

    Give him a shovel and have him work for a living.

    Forcing an extended artificial childhood on people is highly unnatural and
    only leads to an obvious conflict between authority and instinct. If people
    don't want to go to school then don't force them. Schools should be places
    were those interested can get ahead, not some sort of prison. Treating schools
    as prisons and daycare just undermines their alleged goal.

    If you can't keep the truant interested than the school has failed to be relevant. Someone mod the OP up... I couldn't agree with you more.

    If the truant students would stay out of class, my kids could get a decent education. But no, they force these disinterested, undisciplined kids in to an already over crowded class room - and nobody learns anything. The teacher is there just to make sure everyone stays alive.

    If they really want to scare these kids back into the class room - make them get a job from 8a-3p during school. After a few weeks of flipping burgers or shoveling cow shit - these kids might take school a little more seriously. And in the mean time they'll be paying taxes on their wages.

    Profit!
  9. Re:Or like an actual PARENT by MythoBeast · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Not the least bit absurd. Every person has the right to pursue their own happiness. If someone wants to be a complete screw-up, then it is a requirement of a free society that we let them be a screw-up.

    Children are a somewhat different case because, in theory, they don't have all of the information that they need to make effective decisions about their future. Unfortunately, physical enforcement of what you think they should be doing isn't going to improve them, it's just going to let them know that they need to be trickier if they're going to avoid an oppressive state.

    For children you have three paths. The first is to help them realize that cooperating with those around them and being productive is the most effective long-term strategy for pursuing their happiness. The second is to convince them that the entire world is a bunch of screw-ups that are only vaguely kept in order through threat of violence. The third is to let them screw up and take their lumps. Of the three, the second is actually the one most likely to result in violent, oppressive, and harmful adults.

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  10. Re:Or like an actual PARENT by tom's+a-cold · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This is typical of the conservative punitive mind-set. It's also typical of people who don't learn: if they're doing something that doesn't work, their solution is to do it more and harder.

    I am the parent of a teenager who, if we lived in Texas, might be subjected to this idiocy. The likely outcome if it were applied to her would be more resistance to authority, more risky behavior and a greater likelihood of catastrophic consequences, including inappropriate escalation of repression by dim-witted authorities.

    Fortunately we live in a less pig-ignorant part of the country, so we were able to make other arrangements. They involved giving her more personal responsibility rather than imposing more restrictions and privacy invasions. For her this solution has worked. Another thing to keep in mind is that kids are different and what's medicine for one could well be poison for another. I don't trust a committee of state employees to be able to make this kind of assessment, and I trust them even less to make timely corrections if the approach isn't working.

    What's lacking in all layers of the US government is adherence to the principle that people should be left alone unless they are doing something violent or predatory. Micromanagement like this is a symptom of deep pathology on the part of those doing the micro-managing. These idiots should be driven out of office and humiliated.

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  11. Re:Or like an actual PARENT by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Right. Since the government gets held accountable for allowing children to choose to be screw-ups, it's very natural to see this kind of response from them. They're doing everything in their power to satisfy the public's demand that the government do the parenting.

    And if the government is going to be held responsible for the welfare of the children, and if the government is later responsible for supporting those children when they become unemployed adults, then they really ought to be permitted to use this kind of method to help. After all, being responsible for all of the children in the nation is a big task. They need some sort of tool for identifying, tracking, and measuring the status of each one.

    Of course, if this is not the sort of thing you want the government doing, then put the responsibility back on the parents. Don't make "no child left behind" the issue that decides your vote. Don't vote for candidates who support widespread welfare programs. Because this is the natural result of that sort of thinking.