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China to Regulate Internet Map Publishing

hackingbear writes "After text, pictures, and videos, China starts regulating Internet map publishing (here is the google translation.) The government believes that Internet maps can represent the state's sovereignty and its political and diplomatic positions in the international community — and consequently, inaccurate maps could harm national interests and dignity, produce bad political influences, reveal national secrets and harm national security, in addition to harming consumer interests. So from now on, publishing maps would require approval and (yet another) license from the state survey bureau. That means Google, Yahoo, etc., need to remove China from the map; or maybe they just pay up some officials and their agents to acquire yet another license. And our newest 80Gbps DPI monsters need to be upgraded to identify maps together with porn."

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  1. Re:Can they do this? by Serapth · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Can a country do this?

    Well, considering the Dick Cheney had his house obscured... I suppose the answer is yes. Actually with Google maps the US government has a number of areas blacked out for security reasons.

  2. Re:Can they do this? by Deadstick · · Score: 4, Insightful
    As Google maps are satellite based, how inaccurate can they be?

    The borders go onto the map after the satellite takes the picture. Like, say, the border between China and Tibet.

    rj

  3. Re:Can they do this? by querist · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I do not believe the satellite based images are the main issue here.

    The Chinese government objects to maps that depict certain regions as being separate sovereign countries, such as Tibet and Taiwan, which the Chinese government holds are both part of China.

    This would be similar to a map being published that showed Alaska as a separate country, or as part of Canada, as opposed to it being part of the USA.

  4. Re:Can they do this? by junglee_iitk · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Actually, it was possible in US because Google is US based.

    China will be able to pull this off only because Google wants to do business there.

    Let this be a reason for those who talk about "do no evil" and "Google" in same sentence (except me :) ), as if it is some person and not a corporation whose only thing they are looking for is more money for their shareholders.

  5. Spot on by Deadstick · · Score: 3, Insightful
    That means Google, Yahoo, etc., need to remove China from the map

    A much better option than going along with what China wants them to publish. Sometimes the best course is to let jackasses make jackasses of themselves.

    rj

  6. Re:...national secrete... by cayenne8 · · Score: 5, Insightful
    I know China is potentially representing a LOT of money. But, at some point, don't we just say "Fuck China"...and all the rules and regulations and monitoring they are wanting to impose on a system that has worked just fine without them for decades?

    If they want to wall off themselves from the world, then let them. If they don't want to use what a company from another country is doing, fine just block it if you want to (or can) but, quit bitching about everything we free people do outside your fucking borders.

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  7. Controlling the truth by Harmonious+Botch · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Remember, in China (and, increasingly more places), the truth is what they tell you it is. Their view on how information is handed out is a little different than ours... Actually, the trend is going the other way. Governments have always tried to control the truth. What is changing is our knowledge of their actions.
    They aren't doing it more, they're just being caught doing it more often.
  8. Re:...national secrete... by gnick · · Score: 3, Insightful

    ...quit bitching about everything we free people do outside your fucking borders. I don't remotely support the way China's oppressing their people, but criticizing this move as "outside your fucking borders" is off-base. They're restricting what comes into their country, just like almost every country in the world does. If you live somewhere with no copyright laws, start hosting movies that can be downloaded in the U.S. and see if it goes ignored. The only difference is that China is even more oppressive and aggressive than the MPAA and their goal is to enslave their citizens, not just suck them dry.
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  9. I can see the bookmarks now... by rarity · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "On this spot in 1989, nothing happened".

  10. Re:And google can move abroad by gnick · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ...the US gov would just get one of the ministers in sweden to lean on their mate in the police force and raid their offices there.

    And thereby show that the US IS as bad as china and that, yes, other countries DO tell other companies what to do with online maps. The US government has problems, but can somebody explain to me why stories that have absolutely nothing to do with the US government still attract US gov flames? This story is about China's oppression and mentions the fact that it may have an impact on a couple of US businesses. How is the US government involved any more than Holland's or France's? Yes, most of Google's censored map areas are in the US, but other countries have made similar requests and had them granted. I'm sure China could too. But that's a whole different ball game than requiring licensing and approval for posting maps...

    Ugh - Maybe I should just filter out ACs...
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  11. Re:They want it both ways by cayenne8 · · Score: 3, Insightful
    "China has resources we need if we are to have the standard if living "we" want. (and by we I mean first and foremost you and myself)"

    Actually, they (along with India) are rapidly sucking up resources we need...mainly, oil.

    We are having to compete with them on this, and I think this will soon get nasty. China holds so much of our debt (US), that they will likely start using this as leverage against us in oil concerns.

    Frankly, I'd like to get off China's 'teet' with regard to the resources I think you're alluding to...cheap labor.

    I'm quite worried about not having any more manufacturing in the US any longer. That is a national security issues if I've ever heard one. It matters not if we have all the energy needs we need...if our suppliers of goods cut us off...we're toast.

    As another poster mentioned...I'd gladly start paying 10%-20% more for most of my goods if they were made/raised in the US. I'd much rather pay a bit of a premium to support the local manufacturer and local food grower. I'm lucky that I live in LA, where we get such an abundance of fresh seafood from the Gulf....but, when I travel the US, I'm shocked to see how muchh seafood and other animal protein foods are coming in from China, or other countries, rather than our own, where we often have higher quality, and regulations on anti-biotics, drugs and pesticides that can be used.

    But...that's a whole other rant....

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