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The World's Spookiest Weapons

DesScorp writes "Popular Science has a piece on some outrageous ideas for weapons; some came to fruition, and others didn't. And while some of the weapons (atom bombs, chemical weapons, bats with bombs strapped to them that seek out homes and buildings at night) are truly frightening, some of them are also kind of silly, such as the Gay Bomb, and the Frisbee bomb that was labeled the 'Modular Disc-Wing Urban Cruise Munition.'"

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  1. The truth is... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The truth is there is no such thing as a spooky or scary weapon. A non-naive look at the world shows that human beings really don't care about what happens to the rest of the world, as long as the effects aren't felt at home.

    We could annihilate 5 billion people on the planet, but the average person (at least in North America) would little more than flinch, so long as their own city or state is not affected.

    Or maybe I've just lost all faith in humanity. Either way, society already turns a blind eye to the atrocious acts of mankind. A little more torture and murder won't change the way those in power control the planet and its inhabitants.

    1. Re:The truth is... by Planesdragon · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The truth is there is no such thing as a spooky or scary weapon Actually, it's just the opposite. There's no such thing as a NON-spooky or scary weapon. If it's not a dangerous implement of death, it's not a weapon.
    2. Re:The truth is... by BiggerIsBetter · · Score: 5, Insightful

      We could annihilate 5 billion people on the planet, but the average person (at least in North America) would little more than flinch, so long as their own city or state is not affected. I can't really speak for North America, but people travel more and for me at least, between friends and business connections, there aren't many places in the world where I wouldn't be very concerned if something bad happened. E.g., Burma hasn't affected me, but I have (had?) friends in China I can't get hold of since the quake. That's just on a personal level, however so much of our business world is interconnected now, that thinking you won't be affected if half the world disappeared is incredibly naive - just pick most any non-trial, non-handmade product or service, and follow the supply chain...
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    3. Re:The truth is... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      What about a lead pipe or a carpenter's hammer? These aren't inherently spooky or scary, they're just tools - but I sure wouldn't want someone to enthusiastically apply either to my skull.

      Can you imagine how much pain you could inflict with a standard dinner fork (provided the subject was sufficiently restrained)? Nobody would classify this as a weapon - and it certainly wouldn't inspire fear, until one had been used to pry your fingernails off.

      I guess it just goes to show, it's not the weapon you're wielding that counts, it's how you use it...

    4. Re:The truth is... by SanityInAnarchy · · Score: 3, Insightful

      We could annihilate 5 billion people on the planet, but the average person (at least in North America) would little more than flinch, so long as their own city or state is not affected. Entirely possible -- we kill millions, and a billion is just another number. The radioactive fallout would probably get to them, though...

      But it doesn't prove your point:

      The truth is there is no such thing as a spooky or scary weapon. I'd say it depends on context. A large knife, dripping with blood, particularly when it's still in the hands of the person who last used it, is a very scary weapon.

      Given that just about any weapon can be scary in the right context, I think what you're proving is that nothing is scary when you aren't paying attention to it, no matter how scary it really is.
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    5. Re:The truth is... by nguy · · Score: 4, Insightful

      We could annihilate 5 billion people on the planet, but the average person (at least in North America) would little more than flinch, so long as their own city or state is not affected

      No, we couldn't, because the US has moved most manufacturing overseas and is completely dependent on Europe and China economically.

    6. Re:The truth is... by jmv · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Although some tools can be used as "weapons" as you're saying, there just aren't many non-lethal applications to H-bombs cruise missiles and chemical weapons.

    7. Re:The truth is... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      What about a lead pipe or a carpenter's hammer? These aren't inherently spooky or scary, they're just tools - but I sure wouldn't want someone to enthusiastically apply either to my skull.
      And some of the scariest horror movies ever made revolve around this: everyday tools, used as weapons, inspiring terror.
    8. Re:The truth is... by jollyreaper · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Actually, it's just the opposite. There's no such thing as a NON-spooky or scary weapon. If it's not a dangerous implement of death, it's not a weapon. Familiarity desensitizes us. I find our interstate highway system to be the sort of thing a 19th century futurist would dream up to warn us of the dangers of industrialization. It is unimaginable carnage, destruction, and waste. And yet we treat it as just another thing to deal with through the day. The idea of nuclear war has become something we've adapted to knowing of but not thinking about. Contemplating that even now, today, in 2008, one finger pushing the wrong button could send the warheads flying, could see the world swathed in radiation, we've successfully put such things completely out of our minds.

      And if we look at land warfare, the rules of war used to say that you weren't allowed to use shotguns on human beings but .50 cals were acceptable! We're not supposed to use laser weapons to blind soldiers because that's inhumane but we can use thermobaric weapons that suck their lungs out through their mouths! (I've never seen a picture of this but I've seen frogs that have been run over by cars, essentially puking up their entire innards through their mouths, so it seems like a real possibility.)

      I feel a very huge squicky difference between the thought of an Apache chopper firing a Hellfire into a target versus a Predator drone making the firing decision on its own. Hellfire missiles are simple robots designed to seek and destroy targets. But with the Apache, a human is pulling the trigger directly. For now, humans are doing the same with Predators but the Pentagon is working on making them fully autonomous vehicles so that they can make engagement decisions on their own when outside of direct control. Sentry robots are going to be given that same kind of authority. While there's not really much moral difference in directionless killing between an armed robot ready to shoot people with no oversight and land mines and ocean mines that are less complicated ways of spreading irresponsible and uncontrolled death and mayhem, the robot freaks me out more.
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  2. Crowd control? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Maybe it's just me, but what I think is the spookiest is not the weapons as such but rather how many of these appear to be explicitely intended for "crowd control".

    Now of course, using non-deadly force to stop riots etc. is better than using deadly force. But at the same time, the fact that something isn't deadly - not intended to be, anyway - will also take away people's inhibitions to an extent and make them more likely to actually resort to it.

    We're seeing this with tasers already, for example. And in fact, tasers are a good example insofar as that while the manufacturer would like to position them as non-deadly, they in fact are quite so.

    1. Re:Crowd control? by timmarhy · · Score: 1, Insightful
      Do you have any idea of the paper work and investigations that get done everytime a cop pulls his taser? they don't ever do it unless the alternative is dangerous to them or the suspect. the other thing you people NEVER bring into the equation is how many lives/injuries tasers have PREVENTED. if you had any idea how dangerous it is to use pyshical force to restrain someone you'd realise tasers are far safer.

      yes tasers suck to get hit with just like pepper spray, but i'd take being hit with a taser over 6 cops piling on to me to pin me down any day.

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  3. Re:They missed the worst weapon of all. by Hognoxious · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Without man, there would be no weapons.
    O RLY?

    How would you classify those things in a lion's mouth, those things on a bear's feet or that thing a scorpion carries around? They ain't musical instruments, that's for sure.
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  4. It shows just how much the military fears gay sex by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Even though many militaries of the past have been particularly successful because of it.

  5. Heinlein quote... by Majin+Bubu · · Score: 4, Insightful

    There are no dangerous weapons, only dangerous men.

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  6. Re:They missed the worst weapon of all. by SanityInAnarchy · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Weapon \Weap"on\ (w[e^]p"[u^]n; 277), n. [OE. wepen, AS.
              w[=ae]pen; akin to OS. w[=a]pan, OFries. w[=e]pin, w[=e]pen,
              D. wapen, G. waffe, OHG. waffan, w[=a]fan, Icel. v[=a]pn,
              Dan. vaaben, Sw. vapen, Goth. w[=e]pna, pl.; of uncertain
              origin. Cf. Wapentake.]
              [1913 Webster]
              1. An instrument of offensive of defensive combat; something
                    to fight with; anything used, or designed to be used, in
                    destroying, defeating, or injuring an enemy,
    as a gun, a
                    sword, etc. Sounds very much like teeth, claws, or stings.
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  7. Re:They missed the worst weapon of all. by Yeef · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'm not sure if you're serious or not, but I get tired of the whole 'man is the ultimate evil' thing, especially since a lot of the people who believe that back it up with baseless information. Plenty of animals, like bears, kill each other (even their young) under the right circumstances. Animals war with one another (amongst their own species) just like us. In fact, Planet Earth has a segment that shows two tribes of gorillas fighting over territory. Likewise, plenty of different species will fight over things such as food or mates.

    Of course, a lot of these conflicts end with one party surrendering rather than death, but the same is true of humans. On Killing does a pretty good job of showing how humans have a natural aversion to killing members of their own species (even in times of war) just like any other animal. And plenty of animals other than humans have been known to use tools. I'm too lazy to find the article, but I remember reading, about a year ago, an account of an ape using a bone to test the depth of the water in a river. It's safe to say that they animal kingdom has the same capacity for 'evil' as man. We just happen to be the dominant species and are very self-centered so no one pays attention to what the other creatures of the Earth are up to.

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  8. The Rods from God by Soft+Cosmic+Rusk · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I dont quite get it... They are supposed to be dropped from a sattelite and fall to earth with the power of a nuclear weapon... But if you drop them, won't they just remain in orbit? Or will a tiny push be enough to get them down to earth?

    1. Re:The Rods from God by Soft+Cosmic+Rusk · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The more I think of it, the weirder it gets. If those arrows were to have the energy of an A-bomb, the energy had to come from somewere, namely the rockets that brought them into orbit. With, say, a battery of 6 arrows, the rocket would have to have the energy of 6 atomic bombs! Isn't that a bit unrealistic?

  9. Re:Not very complete by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Imagine the horror! I'm not saying 9/11 wasn't tragic for the people involved, but you Americans did far more damage to yourselves afterwards out of fear than the terrorists could ever do. To put the dead toll into perspective, each half hour all over the world more children die of malnutrition, lack of medical care, disease. Imagine that.

  10. Re:Not very complete by somersault · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'd quite like to see George Bush fight a war on malnutrition, disease and lack of medical care rather than a war on 'terror'..

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  11. Re:They missed the worst weapon of all. by ettlz · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The worst weapon in existence on Earth is man itself. Man is the source of every weapon ever created. Without man, there would be no weapons.

    Oh, what pitiful long-haired bullshit is this? Humans are not the be-all and end-all of violence in nature. Sure, we have the intellect to come up with very dangerous things. Sure, there are those dope-arsed enough to use these things. But as general violence in the animal kingdom goes, we're really quite the softies.

    Take dolphins, the poster children of New Age flakies, often put up as these supposedly peaceful, gentle, intelligent creatures that could teach us a thing or two about being in harmony with nature. Bollocks. Dolphins are psychos: murder, violence, gang rape including bestiality and that of their own young --- you name it --- are all staples of dolphin behaviour. Frankly, I wouldn't want to be anywhere near one of these fuckers without someone standing at the ready with a charged harpoon. Where are the dolphin justice mechanisms? If they're so peaceful and moral, where are the dolphin courts and prisons?

    Ducks are just as bad. I was sitting by a pond the other day with about 20 or so ducks there. In the space of about half an hour or so, about six fights broke out, half of which were sexually motivated. In the same amount of time, over a hundred humans must've passed by --- a population in whom not one case of violence or sexual harassment broke out.

  12. Re:what's so special about nuclear? by Haeleth · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Lots of people seem to single out nuclear bombs but I wonder why. Is it because they make war so easy to "win"? Is this so much different to a conventional bomb of corresponding 'size'?
    Fallout. Radiation sickness. Conventional bombs can create just as much devastation, but they either kill you outright or they don't. What people don't like about nuclear weapons is the idea that their effects remain as a silent killer for generations to come.

    In reality, they clearly aren't as bad as all that; Hiroshima certainly isn't a deadly wasteland today. But I'm talking about popular perception here, not scientific reality.
  13. Re:Not very complete by grassy_knoll · · Score: 2, Insightful

    So, what you're saying is controlling access to food and medical care can be considered a weapon.

    Like in Somalia, where UNICEF is prevented from providing aid to some of the "conflict affected areas".

  14. Re:Geez. This article is naive. by MtViewGuy · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The weapon that caused the most damage in Japan during World War II was the M-69 incendiary cluster bomb, which started hundreds of fires from a single bomb casing that spread out nearly 100 little incendiary devices. Given that Japan's cities at the time were mostly built of wood, that's why low-altitude incendiary bombing at night was so devestatingly effective against Japanese cities.

    I often wondered why Japan didn't improve fire safety regulations after the Great Kanto Earthquake in 1923, which a large fraction of the 143,000 dead was caused by uncontrolled fires AFTER the earthquake.

  15. Re:Not very complete by Dutch+Gun · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I'd quite like to see George Bush fight a war on malnutrition, disease and lack of medical care rather than a war on 'terror'.. As much as I appreciate the idealistic sentiments of what you're saying, I can't agree with how you dismissively put 'terror' in quotes. The collapse of the WTC towers and crashing of those planes was undoubtedly pretty damn terrifying to those trapped inside. A bomb exploding on a train, or bus, or at a nightclub is undoubtedly terrifying as well. These were all real events that happened to real people, and they were perpetrated deliberately by others with a political or religious agenda.

    I'm not saying I agree with everything that's happened since, but please don't belittle the actual issue. There *are*, in fact, a group of fanaticals that would love to kill both you and me, preferably by sawing off our heads on-camera. Should that dominate our lives and our politics? Of course not. But it also shouldn't be casually dismissed as irrelevant, simply because it hasn't happened again recently, or not to you or anyone close to you.
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  16. Re:Not very complete by somersault · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Those are terrorist acts yes, but invading a country is no way to stop terrorism. Terrorists usually operate in small groups and don't really have idealistic ties to any country, but rather have ties to ideology, religion, or sometimes just money.

    America was doing nothing about all this until it happened to them too, and then they went waaaaay too overboard on upping their security policies. I don't want to make little of the lives that were lost on 9/11 and the proceeding days, it was tragic, but there really isn't a way of making sure that something like this will never happen again. There have been a few American terrorists (and just plain old homicidal maniacs) as well as those from other countries. Even with a heavy police state there will always be ways of causing problems, many that nobody ever really thinks about (like hijacking a plane and doing a suicide run). You are more likely to catch terrorists early if everyone is being carefully monitored, but what would you rather - live in America of the 90s, or live in a 1984 style "Big Brother is Watching You" dystopia?

    PS there have been a couple of terrorist attacks in the UK since September the 11th, one even in the place where I was born (Glasgow), and there was at least one in London. I usually do casually dismiss that kind of thing, you can't just live in fear your whole life. If someone close to me was hurt by terrorist I would be angry and sad as hell, but you really can't "fight" that. You don't know when the next lunatic, fanatic, psychopath or drunken idiot will snap and cause terror in someone's life.

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