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Robotic Camera Extension Takes Gigapixel Photos

schliz writes "Scientists at Carnegie Mellon University have developed a device that lets a standard digital camera take pictures with a resolution of 1-gigapixel (1,000-megapixels). The Gigapan is a robotic arm that takes multiple pictures of the same scene and blends them into a single image. The resulting picture can be expanded to show incredible detail."

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  1. Not so novel by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Seth Teller at MIT EE was doing this 8 years ago. Check out his Cityproject.

    1. Re:Not so novel by 2.7182 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      How true. Another example of people in computer vision with no ideas who are stealing from people who don't sell themselves well enough. What a sad subject computer vision has become. See Adam Kropps paper with Seth Teller here on spherical mosaics.

    2. Re:Not so novel by GiMP · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I believe that Steve Mann of wearable computing fame was the first to create an algorithm for photo stitching.

    3. Re:Not so novel by 2.7182 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Well its a good idea to check before they submit for a patent, since there is prior art.

      Also, the MIT work is well known to anyone in this area. It's not that hard to google some of the keywords and get the MIT page. The CMU people either knew and ignored it, or they simply didn't do what most of the scientists at their institution usually do, which is read the standard conference papers in computer vision, and browse the web (just a little!!). It's not as if the MIT work was published in some obscure place.

    4. Re:Not so novel by Clover_Kicker · · Score: 4, Funny

      You know what they say, a month in the lab can often save an afternoon in the library.

  2. ALE by pipatron · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Also check out Anti-Lameness Engine, http://auricle.dyndns.org/ALE/ which does exactly the same thing, but you have to provide your own arm.

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  3. Any superresolution software for average Joe? by grimJester · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Is there any superresolution software good enough that I could, for example, take twenty blurry pics with my phone and merge them to a single sharp one?

    1. Re:Any superresolution software for average Joe? by Sitnalta · · Score: 5, Informative

      Yep. Open Adobe Photoshop and go to File -> Automate -> Photomerge. Then simply point it to the folder containing your photo array.

  4. But can't you infinitely zoom into a normal photo? by CRCulver · · Score: 5, Funny

    After all, they do it all the time on CSI.

  5. Wow by Sitnalta · · Score: 2, Insightful

    So, basically it can do the exact same thing as Photoshop, except with the added expense and complications of a robotic arm. Way to go, Carnegie Mellon.

    1. Re:Wow by ColdWetDog · · Score: 2

      So, basically it can do the exact same thing as Photoshop, except with the added expense and complications of a robotic arm. Way to go, Carnegie Mellon.

      Which is rather ironic since the Photomerge routine in Photoshop CS3 is quite adept at taking multiple hand shot images and stitching them together. Traditionally, photographers have used leveling tripods and paid careful attention to exposures. While this can lead to better results than a hand shot and stitch, the latter is awfully good. The intelligence of the Photomerge algorithm (and other stand alone products) are so good that you do not need to have the images precisely registered in space. Using a leveling tripod is not particularly difficult so I don't see where the "robot" helps.

      And Gigapixel images? A bit of overkill if you want to show them to "everyone" (i.e. on the Web). Nothing to see here, move along.

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  6. $279, applications for beta testing open by grimJester · · Score: 2, Informative
  7. 1000 megapixel? by duguk · · Score: 4, Funny
    From TFS:

    take pictures with a resolution of 1-gigapixel (1,000-megapixels)

    Where's the other 24 megapixels? ;)

    caveat: yes, i know. don't start. it was a joke. don't link to wikipedia to explain, besides; xkcd explained it better.
  8. Some Links by Rufus211 · · Score: 3, Informative

    This is a pretty cool project, and I actually saw it when I was at CMU a bit ago (and was wondering what the hell it was).

    There's a CMU press release about it.
    The site with all the pictures is http://www.gigapan.org/
    You can see the hardware here.

    The only problem with this, and any other multi-picture stitching, is that you get obvious stitching problems when there is any movement in the scene, like the trolley in the middle of this scene.

  9. Higher Resolution != Higher Quality by Manip · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I think this just proves that higher resolution doesn't result in a higher quality photo.

    If you look at the entire photo it doesn't look any better than a regular photo even if it contains much more information.

    For years now there has been a push to larger and larger resolution photos with people often mistaking this with "quality."

    All a higher resolution really allows you to do is zoom in more after a certain point. Which is awesome from a photo editing point of view, but for most people unimportant.

    What you really want to be focusing on is the lens quality, zoom quality (lol Digital Zoom), noise, and other characteristics of the camera (e.g. ISO rating).

    So it is great that they spent lot's of time doing this but it isn't all that interesting to average Joes or even serious photographers. We all really want better quality pictures, not bigger ones.

    1. Re:Higher Resolution != Higher Quality by RichardKaufmann · · Score: 5, Informative

      You're confusing three different aspects of quality:

      1. Resolution (the number of pixels in am image, here increased by stitching overlapping images)
      2. Dynamic range, color fidelity, noise (the quality of a particular pixel). This can be somewhat ameliorated by HDR photography or just averaging identical shots (all with no moving subjects and a sturdy tripod). Google Photomatix for details.
      3. Whether the shot is interesting, well composed, in focus, without motion blur, etc. Panorama photography is most interesting for its artistic potential; more pixels is just a delightful side effect.

      #1 and #2 can be addressed by money and a willingness to prostrate yourself to the camera gods. #3 requires talent!

      And to put a final nail in the megapixel coffin: check out http://www.luminous-landscape.com/essays/Equivalent-Lenses.shtml (particularly Nathan Nyhrvold's comments) for a discussion of how sensor size and f-stop place an upper bound on resolution irrespective of sensor density. Physics can be a pain sometimes!

    2. Re:Higher Resolution != Higher Quality by v1 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      When you get to the highest resolution the image is terrible. It looks like a muddy smoothing of a blocky jpeg. You can't say this is a gigapixel image much more than you can say a 640x480 tiff expanded to 400,000x250,000 pixels (in its blocky glory) is a gigapixel image.

      I was expecting to see good quality all the way down to the highest zoom. something like google-earth quality for the most part. They don't let you just keep zooming in past the point where the resolution has hit the wall like this does.

      They have no business calling this a gigapixel image, everyone that reads that is expecting that's the resolution. In reality it speaks more for the pixel count than content.

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  10. misuse of word resolution by cinnamon+colbert · · Score: 3, Insightful

    to my understanding, resolution refers to a mapping of the object on to the image - resolution is a ration of 1 cm in object/x cm in image
    it has nothing to do with pixels per image, although you can have more of the object , at the same resolution, with more pixels

    1. Re:misuse of word resolution by vandoravp · · Score: 2, Informative

      Sort of. Resolution is the fineness of information that can be resolved given a fixed size. Keep in mind that number of pixels is not exactly image size, which can be described in cm or inches depending on the context. For example, a 10in by 10in image at 300dpi will have a much higher density of information when compared to a 10in by 10in image at 72dpi. So, these gigapixel images are potentially much higher resolution, depending on the physical dimensions it is presented at. Compared to most graphics on the web, these images are insanely high resolution. However, if they were printed out at 300dpi, their resolution would be the same as any typical printout, except the prints would be physically gigantic. You are right though that "pictures with a resolution of 1-gigapixel" is inaccurate, so far as it is missing scale, as noted by the sib post, though it is implicitly compared to typical photo scales.

  11. Big Deal! by Evildonald · · Score: 4, Funny

    I've been doing this for years with a film camera and then sticky-taping all the photos together. Then when i want to "zoom in" I just move my head closer to the picture.

  12. Another entry into the market is always welcome by AsmordeanX · · Score: 4, Informative

    That's not really all that new. Motorized panorama heads have been around for a long time. People have even built them from Lego Technics.

    As an avid pano/gigapixel photographer myself I'm interested in any new entry into the excessively priced head market. I'm using a Kadian Quickpan Pro that cost me $400 a few years ago. An automated system would be very nice but the cost is usually horrific. I've even had a head custom built at one point.

    As for the use, I like to take big pictures. I have a 6ft x 3ft print hanging on my wall. The print is 400dpi taken from a 43000x22000 (just shy of 1GP). People see the picture and say it looks nice then walk a little closer, and closer, and closer. Pretty soon they are standing 4" away and excitedly reading the serial number on the front of a train car that is only 2" across on the print.

    1. Re:Another entry into the market is always welcome by Skapare · · Score: 2, Informative

      what kind of a printer does it take to print a high res monster like that?

      This kind.

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  13. We Did It in 1990 by Doc+Ruby · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I worked for a SF area startup in 1990 that produced and sold cameras for "digital prepress" (later called "desktop publishing", and now just "publishing" ;) that had the highest resolution around, to compete with drum scanners that were then the expensive industry standard equipment.

    We took a 512x512 Hitachi video sensor with a 2x2 C-M/Y-K mask repeated over it, for initial 1Kx1Kx40bit images that we derived from DSP on the intensity of the color-masked pixels. Then we physically stepped the sensor through 8x8 subpixel shifts, subsampling each pixel 64x. We ran the resulting 320MB raw composite files through a bank of multiple 25MFLOPS DSPs (interconnected and logic-accelerated by a fat FPGA) to produce 4Kx4Kx36bit 72MB files. In 1990 that was an awesome achievement.

    We poured dramatic engineering work into that platform, which replaced a $150K drum scanner with a $30K PC (on DOS or Win3.0, or plus optional $5K Mac with its GUI including Photoshop 1.0). We had to deal with DSP for micropositioning the video sensor quickly (using feedback data from a laser/interferometer), with new color spaces (I was part of the JPEG org that produced the image format), with custom interconnects at blazing bandwidth, with parallel multiprocessing at then-supercomputer speeds written in C on DOS, and even with the physics of the light variably distorted by turbulence in the air between the camera and scanned slides, heated by the hot lights necessary for exposures fast enough to allow 64 frames and rescan before the sensor wiggled.

    All for a 16Mpxl camera that's now beaten by big sensors on handheld consumer devices for under $2K (in 2008, not 1990, dollars). But I can proudly say that we beat them by almost 20 years.

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    1. Re:We Did It in 1990 by Doc+Ruby · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Not really, though we did have a Lenna slide kicking around. We primarily used a Kodak test slide of color bars/wheels and greyscale gradients, and one image of a European/American looking blonde on Kodak slide and one image of a young Japanese looking woman on Fuji slide. We had different colorspaces for US/Europe and Japan, because Fuji film had a larger green dynamic range supposedly because Japanese people have more acute green-band vision (though I've never independently verified that).

      Once the camera was initially calibrated we'd use a test target to test how well I'd calibrated the film recorder. We printed a slide of Lenna, then scanned and reprinted it a few times through our DSP convergence algorithm, adjusting the film recorder's colorspace instead of the camera. Then we doubled a Lenna scan/print over a purely photographic repro of Lenna and scanned that subtractive image, calibrating the camera until it converged.

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  14. I can't wait! by rakzor · · Score: 2, Funny

    For the 1000-megapixel porn industry.

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  15. You can read the magazine covers... by dogdick · · Score: 2, Funny

    thats pretty amazing...
    There is also a woman blowing a guy in one of the windows.

  16. Also ... by Skapare · · Score: 2, Informative

    ... you might want to read more here.

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  17. Autostitch does it automatically by electrostatic · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Autostitch "is the world's first fully automatic 2D image stitcher." The order in which you take the photos in not important, just that you cover everything and that there is plenty of overlap. You don't have to worry about keeping the camera horizontal -- it will rotate individual shots as needed. And you can ZOOM in on certain shots for more detail. I've used it to merge 154 shots into one panorama. Free.

  18. Gigapixel picture != Gigapixel camera by SamP2 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    True, you can put together a lot of composite pictures to achieve an arbitrary size and resolution. You can legitimately call the result a gigapixel picture (if it reaches the resolution requirement, of course). But that shouldn't be confused with a gigapixel camera, and in and by itself is not actually that impressive.

    For example, if you take the entire photoset of Google Earth, you'd probably get a few peta-pixels worth of data. Ultimately, it all boils down to how much of that data is needed at any given time. You might need a low-detail, large-area image (e.g. view of Earth as a whole), or a high-detail, small-area image of your backyard. In either case, you wouldn't need more than at most a few dozen megapixels at any given time. It's unlikely anyone ever needs more than that size, whether they are studying galaxies or atoms, because the more detail you need, the less physical area you need covered, and vice versa.