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Fat People Cause Global Warming, Higher Food Prices
Stating the obvious: "Two scientists write that obese people are disproportionately responsible for high food prices and greenhouse gas emissions because they consume 18% more food energy due to their greater body mass -- and require increased quantities of fuel to transport themselves and the food they eat. 'Promotion of a normal distribution of BMI would reduce the global demand for, and thus the price of, food,' write the authors, Phil Edwards and Ian Roberts of the evocatively named London School of Hygiene & Tropical Medicine."
How do you draw the conclusion that the two people you know who have high metabolisms means that it's uncommon, in fact unusual? Why, oh why do so many slashbots keep thinking that anecdotal evidence somehow means anything statistically? Also, of the fifty "oinkers" how many did you see stuffing themselves silly? Don't bother answering that because this is the internet and you can say anything you want without having to prove it; the question was really rhetorical and meant to get others thinking about the line of bullshit you're trying to offer as evidence tat the GP's comments are somehow ridiculous.
And fat people are disproportionately likely to watch NASCAR. Solution? Poison donuts at the next NASCAR race!
Monstar L
oh I agree, just not in any way to which you are referring. you suggest that global warming is a hoax and is to be ignored when the evidence doesn't warrent such a conclusion. you also suggest that the conclusions made in TFA are comparable to the naxis, that's also nonsense. you also fail to adress any of the medical benefits to losing weight in general, the decrease in heart attack/stroke risk as well as lower associated cancer risk. instead you attempt to elicit sympathy for an un-tenable position, tat doing absolutely nothing is the way to go.
Sigs are too short to say anything truly profound so read the above post instead.
We can use this information to quarantine fat people and force them to starve themselves. For everyone's good.
You underestimate a fatty with an appetite.
In order to remain their X and Z dimensional occupation, they'll need to persist a constant intake of nutricients. Those will be you.
If that happends, those who can persist this behaviour, will be the new social elite, as being around them, will mean there's food available. (If a person with a mass twice as mine sits on me, I cannot run. If a group of people with a greater mas encloses me, I cannot push them away either.)
It's always been like this; when food is scarce, those who are fatter are those with/in power. Nothing will say "that guy is hot and will increase my chances of gene survival", as being fat when there's no food around. You forgot to take the variable "social structure/values/situation" into account.
I think we can keep recursing like this until someone returns 1
Forgot vegans & vegetarians ;)
It really does not matter AT ALL what kind of a car you use, how much you drive etc. if you eat meat daily, or even half of the time.
Vegans have way smaller carbon footprint because they don't eat meat, nor any animal based foods.
Why? Animals consume way way way more food during their lifespan than what you get to eat, they are living and breathing and moving creatures, who spend a lot of intaken energy on other things than building up mass. think about the cows... What are they really good producing, constantly?
don't have actual figures, but a google search should help ya there.
The point is, that it's eating meat whats the true biggest cause of global warming.
Disclaimer: Most of the time i eat like a vegan, but oh do i love a good steak or a burger, and i used to eat meat daily, now maybe couple times a month. Other times i don't consume any kind of animal related foods, no milk, no eggs, no nothing. And yes, it tastes good and isn't hard after getting used to. You can make quite a nice and tasty dish out of soy cream and mushrooms alone.
Pulsed Media Seedboxes
I'm sorry. I'm pretty sure. you fail at the internets.
--fetch daddy's blue fright wig, i must be handsome when i release my rage
Let's not forget the large shipment of grains the United States sent over to Africa back in the 90's that was later destroyed, because Greenpeace told the country's leaders that the food was "poisoned", while it was merely just genetically engineered. If we were serious about feeding the entire world, we'd stop growing this organic food garbage, switch all those farms to the most radically genetically modified crops we can grow, and ship them all over the place, but then the racists who think they know more than genetic scientists who have studied this stuff for decades would be up in arms.
Learn something new.
so it's unhealthy (like smoking) and it's bad for the environment (like CO2 emmissions). It only seems logical to handle it in the same way - a Fat Tax!
Smoking is a nasty and disgusting habit. I'm not a smoker, never have been. I'm an asthmatic but cigarette smoke doesn't bother me. But smoking is disgusting and offensive in public places.
In Colorado smoking is now prohibited in most public places, and it's great. Feel free to smoke in the comfort of your own home, or your car, or even walking down the sidewalk. But you have to be pretty arrogant and selfish to think you have any right to light a fire and blow smoke into other people in public places.
Smoking should not be illegal and should not be subject to additional taxes beyond sales tax. But you should definitely have to smoke where it doesn't bother other people in a public place--most of whom do not smoke and who have only tolerated it because we have no choice but to put up with the bad manners of smokers who only think of themselves.
If you feel otherwise, well, next time I see you smoking in a public place maybe I'll just get a half dozen of my closest friends to go over to where you are and let loose some juicy, smelly farts. After all, it's freedom of choice and there's no law against it.
If smokers had been more CONSIDERATE of non-smokers, I'll bet you wouldn't have seen so many places passing laws that legislate consideration and good manners.
How can you people tolerate this junk on /. ? seriously... what the hell is this bullshit so called "news" they post here? Did Rupert Murdock buy /. and I missed it? I think I'm gonna be sick... too much propaganda... must... puke... now...
GASP
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"Vegans have way smaller carbon footprint because they don't eat meat, nor any animal based foods."
Where food comes from has a far greater effect on its carbon footprint than the type of food. A vegan who eats fruit, nuts, and vegetables that are have to be transported over long distances will for example have a much higher carbon footprint than somebody who eats meat, eggs, etc, that are produced locally by animals that eat locally grown animal fodder.
"Animals consume way way way more food during their lifespan than what you get to eat"
Much of that food is however things we cannot eat, e.g. grass, hay (a by-product of wheat production), and various other things that they're equipped to handle, but we aren't. Some (e.g. pigs, chickens) are primarily fed on stuff that's not fit for human consumption, and would therefore be thrown away, to become food for colonies of bacteria that produce heat, methane, and CO2 without benefiting us in any way.
"What are they really good producing, constantly?"
The same stuff that the rotting plant matter would be producing if it wasn't consumed by animals whose stomachs contain bacteria which are similar to those that produce methane when breaking down dead plants outside the stomachs of animals. This is why swamps (which by their nature have few if any large grazing animals living in them) produce extremely large amounts of methane, and also the reason that pockets of it have always been a hazard in coal mines, as well as becoming a source of natural gas in the 20th century (clue: natural gas reserves were produced at a time when there were no animals more complex than insects on land).
"The point is, that it's eating meat whats the true biggest cause of global warming"
But shipping bananas over long distances in high-speed refrigerated ships is environmentally friendly because vegans eat them.
You should be rated Troll :)
:)
:) Have you ever seen a freighter go actually fast?
Sure, some things comes over very long distances, but you completely bypass that the stuff those animals eat could be used in other things as well than feeding animals
Furthermore, it has been studied which is more environmentally friendly. Here's an article in Guardian: http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2007/nov/11/food.climatechange
Nevermind the vast amount of fossil fuels used by animal agriculture, sure totally vegetarian uses some too, but not as much. See: http://vegetarian.about.com/od/vegetarianvegan101/f/fossilfuels.htm
New scientist article says:
"A kilogram of beef is responsible for more greenhouse gas emissions and other pollution than driving for 3 hours while leaving all the lights on back home." http://environment.newscientist.com/article/mg19526134.500
You also bypass completely the fact that vegans do not eat exotic foods only, yes they are part as some things are simply not grown locally even if the climate would suit. You also completely bypass that vegans are not the only ones who eat stuff which comes over long distances, like bananas, rice, quite often soy. Furthermore, freighters quite often, or rarely are high-speed, more like tuned for fuel economy
Furthermore, there's ongoing research to turn into alcohol all kinds of compostable stuff, a lot of the stuff which could have been fed to animals. And alcohol is good for what else than drinking and disinfectant? Yes, that's right, as a fuel. Atleast where i live was it 5% of all gas sold has to be alcohol, mixed into your normal DIN 95 octane or DIN 98 octane.
Which of these are more environmentally friendly:
- Meat produced locally
- Vegetary foods produced locally
- Regular vegan diet wh
Pulsed Media Seedboxes
That man who says we should all drive hybrids while at the same time puts out more than all of us while flying those private jets half way around the world for so called Global Warming conventions. He has a bigger house that 90% of the rest of America thus using more energy to heat and cool it, and now hes overweight.
The rest of America needs to drive hybrids and live in a two room hole in the wall and be super thin just to make up for Al Gore's waste...
That is assuming of course that climate change is man made and that the climate doesn't change on its own over time naturally due to natural reasons...
--- When you start with the conclusion that you want, then throw out any facts that don't agree, is it true?
Even though you were being tongue-in-cheek, you hit the nail on the head.
Humans are contributing to global warming. More so now than ever before, and with more people than ever before.
Saying "fat" people do it by up to 15% more (or greater) is besides the point. It's also divisive and does nothing to solve the problem.
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