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Oil Billionaire Building World's Largest Wind Farm

gadzook33 writes "CNN is reporting that oil billionaire T. Boone Pickens is planning to invest billions of dollars in what will probably be the world's largest wind farm. It will eventually generate 4 gigawatts, enough to power 1.3 million homes. The first 600 GE wind turbines are scheduled for delivery in 2010. Pickens says that each turbine will generate about $20,000 in income annually for the landowner who hosts it."

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  1. Re:In other news by LWATCDR · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Not really.
    Very few new power plants are going to built that burn oil. The majority of new plants now are coal, followed by natural gas, and soon I hope Nuclear.
    Wind farms will replace the Coal fired plants first so it really is a win for the oil companies to expand their revenue base.
    Same reason that BP makes solar cells.
    The Oil companies would like nothing more than to make more money selling wind power at the expense of coal. Which will make coal cheaper so the oil companies can use cheap coal to make expensive gas and diesel fuel to sell us to run our cars and trucks.

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  2. 1st Law of Thermodynamics by john_anderson_ii · · Score: 4, Interesting

    If we accept that the actions of human beings can impact the climate, and we accept the first law of thermodynamics, what impact will wind farms have on the environment? Imagine if every home and factory in the U.S. were powered by wind farms. How much energy would these farms be pulling out of the wind? How would that impact weather patterns? Something I've always wondered about. As we jump off fossil fuels and move on to other sources of energy I sure hope someone thinks ahead this time.

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  3. Re:just a few thoughts on clena energy by polar+red · · Score: 4, Interesting

    In most areas of the world, the wind blows not steadily. If you add up the energy of all wind over the whole world, the wind blows VERY steadily. My point : if you put up windmills over a length of thousands of miles, your electricity production WILL have a steady baseline. (otherwise that would mean that the sun went out, AND the moon stopped rotating around the earth, AND the earth stopped rotating)

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  4. Skyscrapers more dangerous by soren100 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Please don't bring up "what about the birds?" in regards to wind turbines. Just don't. Sure, some may fly into one and die. Some won't. It's called survival of the fittest Actually, the tall buildings in cities kill a great many more birds than windmills. According to the linked article, the conservative estimate is that 100 million birds are killed each year through collisions with buildings.

    Apparently the combination of tall buildings, glass, and bright light is pretty deadly for birds. The bright lights on the tall buildings (like those over 40 stories) can really confuse the birds when they are migrating. The birds are used to using visual cues from the stars and moon to navigate, and according to the article can end up crashing into the building at night since they are attracted by the light, or get confused into circling the building until they are exhausted. Then in the morning, when they try to leave the city, the glass of the building reflects the sky and the birds fly into the glass.

    Most of the birds are small songbirds, which are easily swept up by custodial staff, and it happens at many buildings, so it's not so noticeable for pedestrians, but it's a big enough problem that the buildings (according to the article) have started dimming their lights to avoid killing more birds.

    So if you want to argue against windmills on the bird issue, then you should be prepared to argue against skyscrapers as well.
  5. Wow... you are dumb. by lupine · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The largest nuclear power plant in the united states is Palo Verde which provides a maximum of 3.8GW.

    The largest plant in the world is the
    Kashiwazaki-Kariwa nuclear power plant in Japan which has a peak theoretical output of 8.2GW, but is currently offline because of damage caused by an earthquake.

    So 4GW of power would be significant.

  6. Re:In other news by reovirus1 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Where I live, on the edge of a city of 1.5million, it takes me 18 minutes by electric bike, 40 by regular bike and 40 by car average commute. I don't have to pay for parking for it, and it costs 5 cents to charge it at todays electricity costs. I've got studs on my e-bike for the winter and have reduced my driving to only a day or two a month to get to work. The bike cost me 1000.00 for the batteries (harvested Dewalt drill batteries made by a123systems), 300 for the hub motor and 200 for the controller. The bike itself is a piece of crap low end mountain bike, about 600 bucks new. With parking at 20-30 bucks a day, I've already more than paid for it. Plus I can still pedal the thing and get exercise when I want to. So yeah, bring on the wind farms so that my total carbon foot print for commuting goes down even further!

  7. Re:In other news by Ocker3 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    You wouldn't happen to have documented that build project would you? Even a full parts list would go a long way.