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US Paper Money Discriminates Against the Blind

CWRUisTakingMyMoney writes in to let us know about a US Appeals Court ruling declaring that paper money discriminates against blind people who must rely on others to tell them what denomination of money they have. "A US federal appeals court on Tuesday ruled that the country's one-sized paper money discriminates against the blind and told the government to change the currency's size and texture. The court upheld a previous ruling in November 2006... [that] had ordered the Treasury Department to find a way to accommodate the more than three million visually-impaired Americans who have trouble distinguishing the different US denominations which are all the same size and color... 'A large majority of other currency systems have accommodated the visually impaired, and the [Treasury] secretary does not explain why US currency should be any different,' the court said in its ruling."

45 comments

  1. I must be blind ... by McGiraf · · Score: 2, Funny

    .. I can not see any comment.

    1. Re:I must be blind ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Huh, according to the timestamp, you commented an hour and five minutes before the story was posted. You just won the First Post of the Year Award.

    2. Re:I must be blind ... by McGiraf · · Score: 1

      More like 23 hours after it was posted , no one saw the story it seems. Oh, the irony!

  2. Who designed American money anyway? by jeremymiles · · Score: 3, Informative
    I moved to the US 18 months ago, from the UK, and I'm amazed by the money, and how user unfriendly it is.

    All the notes are the same size and color - I stand at the head of the queueline at the checkoutregister, and take notes out of my wallet, one at a time, saying "Nope, that's a single; nope, that's a single; I'm sure there's a 20 in here somewhere."

    Then there are the values. in the UK, coins range from 1p (~2c) to £2 (~$4). If you want to pay for something in a vending machine, there's a coin. Here, you've got to feed in a note, clean it, try again, give up with that note, try another note, etc, etc.

    If it doesn't take notes, you've got to use quarters, worth about 13p. To do our weekly washing requires a small mountain of coins, which need to be jealously hoarded.

    Then there's the size of the coins - why doesn't size correlate with value? Shouldn't a dime be bigger than a nickel?

    And finally, there's the fact that none of the coins say how much they are worth on them. A dime? What's that worth than? I don't know, and I can't find out.

    Before new coins are introduced in the UK they do research to determine the best size for them, to help blind people (and others) distinguish between them. There's a PDF here, which very briefly describes some of it. (Sorry, it's a PDF, and that's the Google link).

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    1. Re:Who designed American money anyway? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      I'm assuming from the context of your comment that you're not blind or visually impaired.

      All the notes are the same size and color - I stand at the head of the queueline at the checkoutregister, and take notes out of my wallet, one at a time, saying "Nope, that's a single; nope, that's a single; I'm sure there's a 20 in here somewhere."
      OTOH, for those of us who are just a bit more organized, it's not that difficult because we've become used to putting money into our wallets in order. It only takes a few seconds.

      To do our weekly washing requires a small mountain of coins, which need to be jealously hoarded.
      Yes, that sucks. Most laundromats have either a change machine (which is usually tolerant of rough bills) or an attendant who will provide change. Of course, YMMV.

      Then there's the size of the coins - why doesn't size correlate with value? Shouldn't a dime be bigger than a nickel?
      It's a mild amusement to us. Over time, you'll come to realize that this is just one of the many subtle ways we passive-aggressively discourage immigration....

      And finally, there's the fact that none of the coins say how much they are worth on them. A dime? What's that worth than? I don't know, and I can't find out.
      Well, if you understand what "cent" and "dollar" mean, then only the dime is an aberration in this way as it just reads "one dime". All the other coins in general circulation have their values stamped on the reverse or the front (check the images). Still, it could be clearer.

      Oh, and welcome to the U.S. It's a wonderful country, offering a plethora of things to complain about...

      - T
    2. Re:Who designed American money anyway? by Profane+MuthaFucka · · Score: 1

      The dime is not an abberation, it's a logical denomination of our currency. It's a decimal currency, so logically you have denominations that are powers of 10. Mill, Cent, Dime, and Dollar. Every other denomination is expressed in terms of those, which are each 10 times bigger than the previous.

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    3. Re:Who designed American money anyway? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      While I do agree with you on some points, don't start a fight if you can't finish it. Here's my points:

      *The US has released many iterations of the Dollar coins but no one uses them; people hated the Susan B. Anthony because of the similarity to the Quarter, The Sacajawea Dollar was applauded but mainly collected and the new Presidential Dollar coins have similar collector-based problems. If Americans truly wanted to use Dollar coins, there would be more in circulation instead of sitting in shoe boxes gathering dust.

      *British coinage has way more problems than American coinage. You have a 2p bigger than a 20p, a 5p smaller than a 1p and a 10p larger (thicker, I'll grant) a Pound piece. That two Pound piece while I do like it could cause blunt force trauma if you threw it at somebody. With that many coins in my back pocket I'd develop a back problem.

      What we really need to do is get moving with digital wallets so we don't have to have litigation like this.

    4. Re:Who designed American money anyway? by BungaDunga · · Score: 2, Interesting

      We've got some new bills that are slightly colored: pinkish 20s and purplish 5s, apparently to fight counterfeiting.

    5. Re:Who designed American money anyway? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Interesting. I had never bothered looking up the etymology of the word. Thanks.

      - T

    6. Re:Who designed American money anyway? by jrumney · · Score: 2, Interesting

      If you release a coin in small quantities, then of course they are going to become collectable and sit in collectors' drawers. That happens with £5 coins too, despite 30 million of them going into circulation since 1990. If they're really serious about introducing a dollar coin, they'd do a proper production run, and judging by the economics cited by other countries' mints, they'd save a lot in printing costs by making the move completely.

      Having seen a documentary a few years back about the US updating its currency (in the late 1990s I think), I think the problem is not that they don't consider the usability of their currency, it is that they place too much importance on the opinions of their test group. People are resistant to change, so they'll tell you they don't like using a dollar coin, different sized notes ("they don't look tidy in my wallet" was the reason given), or different colored notes ("looks unamerican"). But if the treasury was bold and made the change anyway, people would get used to it, just as they do in other countries.

    7. Re:Who designed American money anyway? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The problem not the denomination or the popular name, but the label clarity. It's just that the face of the coin says "One Dime." Most countries have coins with the equivalent of "1" "10" "50" printed prominently on one side. This gives non-natives (and people who do not read the national language) a fighting chance at guessing their value. (Euro coins change from brassy to silvery two-tone when the number means "Euros" rather than "Cents.")

      American coins read "one cent" "five cents" "one dime" "quarter dollar." Possibly, someone might want to change that to "1 cent" "5 cents" "10 cents" "1/4 dollar" (or "25 cents") for clarity?

    8. Re:Who designed American money anyway? by Profane+MuthaFucka · · Score: 1

      The label is pefectly clear. All the denominations have precise meanings. The real problem is that language courses in foreign countries are not teaching their students what a dime is.

      Fortunately, with money, there is a great inCENTive to learn what a dime is worth...

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    9. Re:Who designed American money anyway? by arwel · · Score: 1

      British coinage has way more problems than American coinage. You have a 2p bigger than a 20p, a 5p smaller than a 1p and a 10p larger (thicker, I'll grant) a Pound piece. That two Pound piece while I do like it could cause blunt force trauma if you threw it at somebody. With that many coins in my back pocket I'd develop a back problem. That's not a problem, we use colour, weight, and shape to help distinguish coins - 1p and 2p are round, copper coloured coins, 5p and 10p are round silver coloured coins, 20p and 50p are seven-sided silver coloured coins, £1 is a thick, round golden coin, £2 is a large, thin, bi-metallic coin. It's easy to distinguish them by touch, even when they're in your pocket and you've got about £9 in loose change in there.
    10. Re:Who designed American money anyway? by ncc74656 · · Score: 1

      I moved to the US 18 months ago, from the UK, and I'm amazed by the money, and how user unfriendly it is.

      All the notes are the same size and color - I stand at the head of the queueline at the checkoutregister, and take notes out of my wallet, one at a time, saying "Nope, that's a single; nope, that's a single; I'm sure there's a 20 in here somewhere."

      What's so hard about looking at the numbers on the bills? They're in each corner on both sides. If you keep them sorted, it takes no time at all to pull out whatever you need. That's what I did with British currency back when I had to deal with it ~20 years ago (lived there for a couple of years as a teenager); if anything, multiple sizes are an annoyance because they won't stack together neatly in your hand or your wallet. Besides, how do you design a bill acceptor (like you'd find in vending machines and such) to reliably accept bills in multiple sizes? I'm sure it's nothing a bit of engineering can't overcome, but it makes things more complex than they should be.

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  3. hah. one article hidden from all by nawcom · · Score: 1, Informative
    hilarious. hidden from view, almost a day after posted and only 4 comments.

    tits boobies gnaa!!

    someone mod this comment informative.

    1. Re:hah. one article hidden from all by CWRUisTakingMyMoney · · Score: 1

      Actually, I posted this Tuesday night; I don't know why this article is stuffed away over here. Maybe it was timestamped 24 hours too early for some reason?

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  4. The story is true, but by EkriirkE · · Score: 3, Informative

    They have pocket money reading machines that speak the value, like feeding a bill into a vending machine, the little gizmo knows that it is...

    http://www.tiresias.org/equipment/eb17.htm
    at the top of this link are a couple of the devices. I like how the euro one is simply a ruler.

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  5. Kennita by Kennita · · Score: 2, Interesting

    If we make bills different sizes, the $20 bill had better still be ATM-sized (or else buy stock in an ATM company). Oh yes -- in any case, buy stock in a cash register company. Unless we keep the bills the same size and give them all different textures, edge designs, or what-not. Maybe bills should be embossed in Braille? They wouldn't stack as compactly, but it might beat other forms of retooling.

  6. My solution by AnotherBrian · · Score: 1

    I seem to remember a story about this a while ago. I had an idea to fix it that I will repeat here.

    Punching a different size hole in the bill according to it's denomination. The larger the hole, the smaller the bill, so you couldn't 'upgrade' them with scissors. Or elliptical holes parallel/perpendicular/diagonal to the length of the bill. The main advantage I see is that there would not need to be much expansive change to the existing printing setup.

    The only problems I see is that it may negatively affect their wear resistance and people could make the wrong size hole in existing currency. Although, that would probably not be a serious problem as it would only work on the limited number of blind people.

    1. Re:My solution by afxgrin · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Canadian paper bills have braille on them.

      Or do until the bumps get worn down.

      Just using raised ink for the number-value of the currency would help, or even making that into braille.

      In Canada, we have a holographic strip in our bills as well. That strip could be shaped distinctively for each bill.

      It's smooth where the strip is, so someone could follow the strip with their finger, and by either printing on top of it or increasing the frequency of waves in the strip respective to the bills value would work. That's right, the holographic strip is kind of wavy.

    2. Re:My solution by dave87656 · · Score: 2, Funny

      Putting a hole in the US dollar would properly reflect the declining dollar value against other currencies.

  7. They fixed the problem in Canada.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Canadian paper currency has been specifically engineered to be easier to recognize by visually-deficient people.

    The fix that was implemented?

    The various denominations are unique colors.

  8. Compared to Australian Money... by mongie · · Score: 1

    We replaced all of our paper money with (slightly) textured plastic notes some time back. We use different colours for each note, and more sophisticated security features to avoid counterfeiting.

    I supose its to be expected that America would lag the rest of the world in its currency, considering you still use imperial measurements :D

    See pic of Australian notes: Australian Money

    1. Re:Compared to Australian Money... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, but Australian Money has had different sized notes of different colours ever since the change to dollars from pounds.

      I must confess I've got no idea what the older pound notes looked like - well before my time. I still have one of those brown $1 notes stashed away somewhere at home, though...

    2. Re:Compared to Australian Money... by supervillainsf · · Score: 2, Funny

      We Americans have replaced all our money with plastic too.

    3. Re:Compared to Australian Money... by glamb · · Score: 2, Interesting

      It is NOT to stop counterfeiting....

      They made Australian notes plastic to be waterproof. So you can swim up to the bar in the middle of the pool and still pay for a beer :-)

    4. Re:Compared to Australian Money... by mongie · · Score: 1

      I worded that poorly, what I meant to say was... We use different colours for each note to assist in identification. We also use more sophisticated security features (than a line in the paper).

  9. ...more leftist propaganda.. by DrStoooopid · · Score: 0, Troll

    ..from the:"We don't have anything else to bitch about" department. They approach this from the stance that blind people are helpless, and have to have their hands held. What the hell do they think blind people have been doing for the last 200 years??!...(okay maybe not 200)...but they have their own system for dealing with currency. Discriminatory...please....let's make drinking fountains 2 feet tall with an extended drain and spigot so crippled people can use them, while we're all it, but nobody else can....and let's make seats in movie theaters triple wide, so morbidly obese people can pay the same price, but take up 3x's the room. And let's have special lanes of traffic for these electric car driving, sanctimonious @ssholes so they don't have to wait in rush hour traffic, because obviously they think they're better than everyone else, ergo they must be. I drive a 1963 Ford Fairlane. I have a V-8 engine, and I get 30mpg....SUCK IT. (221ci, 3sp w/OD..for the skeptical...smallest V8 ford made)...blind people have their money separated with paper clips, and fat people rent movies at home. End of story. ...and whoever did this study can die in a fire.

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  10. Can the judge make the value go up as well? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why does it matter what size the dollar is? I mean I understand the concept about not being able to distinguish the different values, but honestly, how much is dollar worth? Not much thanks to the wonderful U.S. government who steals from the poor to give to the rich and the rest of the world.

    U.S. citizens, this is what our tax money is spent on, paying some fat judge to make a ruling that all money should be reprinted, which ultimately makes us more of a laughing stock to the world than we already are.

    But seriously, we should have money that the visually impaired can use too.

  11. Your Rights Online by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What? Why is this not in Politics? What does this have to do with the internet?

  12. There is a workaround by BlackTarw · · Score: 1

    Ray Charles solution of being paid in one dollar bills is a good solution although it does make house buying a long and laborious process...

  13. Too late for such a change? by Mike+Gerwitz · · Score: 0

    Paper money is being used less and less. Yes, I'll never want to give up carrying around some cash in my pocket (especially since I don't want the credit card companies tracking every purchase I make), but because more and more people are using credit cards or some type of alternative to cash, I do not see the point in spending the hundreds of millions (dare I say billions) of dollars in time, equipment and people in order to make such a drastic switch when they can use a very simple alternative. This would have been an excellent idea earlier, but I think it's a bit late.

  14. ATM dimensions by RockDoctor · · Score: 2, Interesting

    If we make bills different sizes, the $20 bill had better still be ATM-sized (or else buy stock in an ATM company)
    By ATM-sized, I take it that you mean "about 0.5m wide, 1m deep and 1.5m high"? At least that's the size of common free-standing ATMs over here, and I'd assume that the ones built into walls are about the same size behind the brickwork.

    Well, it'd certainly be an interesting currency. It would probably vie with early post-barter systems based on large bags of elephant dung for the title of "most inconvenient currency ever".

    I don't know who makes ATMs in America ; I know that the ones on the streets of Britain, Norway, France, Russia, Germany, Tanzania, and (if I recall correctly) Azerbaijan are made by the "usual suspects" such as Motorola, NCR and other multi-national currency-handling manufacturers. There may be others - I've not made any effort to be systematic in noting manufacturers logos even if they're visible.

    Given that, are you seriously proposing that manufacturers actually produce one range of products specifically tailored for one size of notes in one country, and a different set of products with an overlapping specification for use in the rest of the world?

    The big difficulty in ATMs isn't the area of the notes, or their dimensions ; it's counting the edges of the notes and making sure that the right number are dispensed. My bet would be that *that* area is where the patents are applied. The rest of the machine is just sheet-handling machinery - probably somewhat better quality than you get in a £100 laser printer, but not fundamentally different. So that means one product line, world wide, with the only localised differences being in logos and software.

    Look closely at the next ATM that you can (without being arrested for having a terrorist-like excessive interest in valuable machinery) - compare the width of the cash-dispensing slot's weather-proofing with the width of the widest note in your currency : unless you live in a country with the widest currency in the world, you'll most likely find that the slot will accommodate wider notes than you use.

    You'll probably find that the dimensions to which ATMs are built are now acting as constraints on the dimensions of note design.

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    1. Re:ATM dimensions by RockDoctor · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      Go slit your fucking wrists fucktard.
      Ah, someone trying to drag down the devel of discourse on slashdot. What a BIG surprise.
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  15. Brazilian Currency by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If you've seen the Simpsons in Brazil, you'd known that there, paper money is very colorful (because of illiterate people).

    And it also has some rough marks on the corners so blind people can feel it.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brazilian_real#Banknotes_2

  16. A Solution by tetrakatus · · Score: 1

    When I first heard about this problem in 2006, I thought long and hard about the problem, and it seems to me that one of the best solutions, which would not have most of the problems that current suggestions have, and at the same time would help the blind, and would make counterfeiting more difficult, would be to have the bills have different textures, by possibly using multiple materials to produce them. I emailed this suggestion to Larry Felix, and while he was kind enough to respond back, and say they would think about it, apparently it wasn't implemented. I'm just surprised that my suggestion hasn't shown up in any of the news coverage. What do you Slashdotters think? Anything we can do as a group to get this solution implemented?

  17. Treasury Shenanigans by dj245 · · Score: 1

    The government *wants* you to save those $1 and never spend them. They don't care about adoption rates or other such nonsense. What it does do is allow them to print lots of money (more than is being taken out of circulation) and make a profit. Hoarding money dampens inflation, which is pretty bad anyway.

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  18. A device that tells them which bills? by llamafirst · · Score: 1

    Huh?

    Wouldn't it be easier to have blind people use a device that can TELL them which bill it is?

    Plus, that device can genuinely authenticate it being valid currency using some of the high-tech methods that change machines use.

    Surely that has to be better than changing the size or texture.

    If we *merely* changed the size and texture, people could trick blind people all the time with their FALSE sense of confidence that they have a $100 bill because it's fuzzy and rounder, but they really just got handed some felt.

  19. The real (and negative) bottom line is... by ibsteve2u · · Score: 0

    Complying with this court's decision will result in ever higher printing costs for dollars that are worth ever less.

    Might as well make our dollars in the form of complex Möbius strips, because our beloved Republicans have seen to it that it starts as nothing and - with a few contortions along the way - ends as nothing.

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    1. Re:The real (and negative) bottom line is... by isotactic · · Score: 1

      What I don't get is why the government bothered to fight the suit in the first place. It's been going on for 6 years, which means it probably came up right around the time they were designing their "new" bills in the first place. They added color, watermarks and everything, why couldn't they have made some improvements so the blind could identify their own bills? It's a good, solid improvement, and if the lawyers weren't allowed to follow their first instincts, they could have fixed the bills without much fuss.

      And don't say that they can use debit cards, that's a cop-out. Debit cards are not accepted everywhere, and are especially useless in the more personal interactions that people who are dependent on help are likely to encounter. Say you're blind...you'll probably have someone do your grocery shopping for you. Finding the price of apples on a chalk sign would be impossible, not to mention checking nutritional labels, or inspecting the produce. So you want to give them some money to do it? Better hope you filed it correctly into your wallet the last time. Count the change you got back? Good luck, you'd better hope your assistant is trustworthy, because it is absolutely impossible to differentiate one denomination from another without seeing it. Why don't you just give them your card and tell them your PIN?

  20. Re:Why fucking bother with the god-damned blind? by shentino · · Score: 1

    What's great about anonymous cowards like you is that it only takes one mod point to send your default-of-zero crap to minus-1 hell.

    And what's great is that it's so obvious I only need to say it once.

  21. No Good Reason to Change by MarkAyen · · Score: 1

    'A large majority of other currency systems have accommodated the visually impaired, and the [Treasury] secretary does not explain why US currency should be any different,' the court said in its ruling.
    ...and I don't really see a compelling argument why the US Treasury should re-tool its entire money-printing infrastructure to accomodate a vanishingly-small percentage of the population, particularly when (as someone else pointed out) there are mechanical readers to accomodate those people.