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Bell Canada Launches Its Own Online Video Store

rsax writes "Bell Canada recently announced that it is launching a downloadable video store just as it is caught up in a government inquiry into its traffic-shaping practices. Some consider this a conflict of interest since several content providers were in the process of distributing TV shows using P2P technology before the Bell throttling issue started getting media coverage. Bell's FAQ states that it is not available for Mac users right now (and not Linux either of course) because they are using Windows Media DRM. They do, however, invite feedback on their site."

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  1. can traffic shaping be proved in court? by crazybit · · Score: 5, Interesting

    How can we prove a provider is shaping our traffic?

    they will probably allege the slow download is because of net traffic, spam, etc.

    transparent bridges for traffic shaping are very hard to detect

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    1. Re:can traffic shaping be proved in court? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      In this case, Bell has publicly admitted to traffic shaping in their filing(s) with the CRTC.

    2. Re:can traffic shaping be proved in court? by compro01 · · Score: 4, Informative

      a packet scheduler built into the linux kernal.

      http://luxik.cdi.cz/~devik/qos/htb/

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    3. Re:can traffic shaping be proved in court? by _generica · · Score: 4, Funny

      kernal?

  2. Conflict of interest... by TRAyres · · Score: 5, Funny

    And they have a form for feedback? Brace for obvious shit storm...

  3. Re:Let's start our own... by taylortbb · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Just switch to TekSavvy. They're an ISP that believes in network neutrality, they've even organized a rally on parliament hill for next week. Prices beat Bell too.

    If you want to attend the rally, see http://www.netneutralityrally.ca/ .

  4. Re:Let's start our own... by Nuitari+The+Wiz · · Score: 4, Informative

    A good connection to the Internet and a way to connect to your subscribers.

    The reason why so many smaller ISPs are in trouble is that they could not invest in their own DSLAMS as Bell has been quick build new cabinets, which are not required to be unbundled.

    The exchange connects to cabinets which connects to people's houses. However the law only forces the exchanges to be unbundled (what a nice loophole). Also cabinets will reach much fewer people then exchanges.

    On the other hand, a link between a cabinet and an exchange can be fiber, while between the cabinet and the customers can still be copper, reducing the reliance on copper.

    Unfortunately, fiber can't carry a DSL signal.

    Also here in Montreal, the only viable broadband alternative is Videotron (owned by Quebecor) which is the only major Canadian ISP not to fight requests for subscriber's information.

    Videotron even stated publicly that they would comply with any request for subscriber info.

    You could also ditch Bell and go with a different ISP, at least with that Bell would get less money from you.

    I've already canceled 1 phone line and 1 adsl service with a different ISP. Once my Bell ExpressVu contract runs out, that too will go.

  5. Re:Let's start our own... by taylortbb · · Score: 4, Informative

    TekSavvy does use Bell's last-mile network and as a result has been throttled recently, the CRTC (government is regulator) is investigating and may rule the practice illegal. That's also what has lead TekSavvy to organize the rally for network neutrality.

    As for their US equivalent, you may want to see my above post: http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=561862&cid=23514422 . Basically they're considering expanding to the US, let them know you want it.

  6. Use this: by Fluffeh · · Score: 5, Informative

    Test if your ISP is throttling - That link should help some of it at least.

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  7. A Future Dismal Failure... by His+Shadow · · Score: 4, Insightful

    75% percent of the portable media player market is Apple's iPod. 75%. Any online store that prevents their target demographic from transferring their videos and music to the overwhelming media player of choice is choosing failure as a business plan. Bell has chosen failure. Microsoft's business plans are not in the best interest's of consumers or even business partners. Surely the latest MSN license server fiasco and the Play For Sure Zune betrayal are painfully evident lessons in who not to partner with when setting up a media distribution shop.

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  8. drmbg for the win by thermian · · Score: 5, Informative

    Oh no, this is great. You can remove windows drm with ease, just run drmbg then FairUse4Wm, and the drm is history.
    Why they would use it when its so trivial to reverse is a puzzler to be sure.

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  9. They only carry 2 movies though, by hyperz69 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Strange Brew and Canadian Bacon.

  10. One real recourse against Bell. by guidryp · · Score: 4, Informative

    I am with a small DSL player like Teksavvy. These smaller players are great. They offer lower rates and MUCH BETTER customer service. I have no idea why anyone stays with Bell for DSL.

    Teksavvy is in the lead for customer service and standing up to Bell, but it does little good, unless they win, because all DSL sucks now that Bell is throttling the last mile for everyone. (BT runs at about 20kB/s during waking hours, but full bandwidth is there for web and presumably Bells competing services).

    I seriously doubt this throttling on the last mile of the competition is necessary, but once Bell throttled it's own customers (more likely to contain back end internet bandwidth than last mile bandwidth) it was losing them to the competition, so they throttled the competition.

    The particularly heinous parts of this, is that the small DSL player pay $20/month to Bell for the last mile connnection, a last mile monopoly of twisted pair that was largely granted by Canadian citizens.

    Bell is largely attempting to eliminate the competition.Users seemingly have little recourse, but we have one.

    Bell is pervasive, you might not even be able to complain about DSL if they aren't your provider, but Bells pervasiveness is their weakness as well as strength.

    Cancel your DSL and move to Cable. Tell your provider why. This will deny bell revenues and may give small players ammunition in their legal action against Bell. True the Cable side of the duopoly are no angels either but the throttling is no near as restrictive, and it cuts off any revenue to Bell.

    Cancel any Bell long distance plans.

    Cancel you landline and switch to Voip.

    Cancel your Bell ExpressVu Satellite TV.

    Cancel you Bell cell phone (or any provider reseslling the service).

    Basically become Bell free, on every cancellation tell them why.

    I have started the transition. In a month I will be entirely Bell free! I will no longer feel dirty know my money is funding these monopolistic pigs with hideous service.

  11. And the puzzle is solved... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It all makes sense now. Bell Canada is the Company that orchestrated Salem-style witch hunts against mom & pop brick & mortar satellite TV shops prior to launching their ExpressVu service. Even before they managed to lobby a dictatorship-style law forbidding foreign satellite service, they were orchestrating raids against their future competitors. The bandwidth throttling is just a modern day version of their Monopoly status abuse.