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P2P BitTorrent Tool Could Replace Pirate Bay

With the US and other G8 countries trying to outlaw The Pirate Bay and its ilk, an anonymous reader suggests that a solution may have emerged out of Cornell University. A new open-source project called Cubit is an Azureus plugin that provides decentralized approximate keyword search of torrents in the network.

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  1. Re:Limewire/Frostwire? by blueg3 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Sort of. The main point of the Gnutella network (of which Limewire is a client) is searching. The network is inefficient, but it allows for arbitrary searching. This would be along the same vein as using a Gnutella-like network to share .torrent files, then using a BitTorrent client to actually transfer the data. (I haven't read the article, but I suspect their searching network is more efficient than Gnutella.)

  2. Re:It needs Azureus? by blueg3 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    No, it's implemented in an Azureus plugin.

    I see nothing in the design of their searching network that would preclude implementations independent of Azureus.

  3. Yes. What's unconstituional by Hankapobe · · Score: 4, Interesting
    I have to agree with the parent here.

    I've read the GP's post and I've been pulling out the Old Constitution trying to figure out where he's coming from.

    We, the US, are governed by the rule of law. And sometimes, the rule of law is very unfair for a few of us. BUT, it will correct itself eventually and to be honest, I prefer "eventually" to a bloody revolution. I mean "bloody" in the "folks are dieing in the streets" bloody - not the British version.

    1. Re:Yes. What's unconstituional by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I prefer "eventually" to a bloody revolution. I mean "bloody" in the "folks are dieing in the streets" bloody - not the British version.


      "God forbid we should ever be twenty years without such a rebellion.
      The people cannot be all, and always, well informed. The part which is
      wrong will be discontented, in proportion to the importance of the facts
      they misconceive. If they remain quiet under such misconceptions,
      it is lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty. ...
      And what country can preserve its liberties, if it's rulers are not
      warned from time to time, that this people preserve the spirit of
      resistance? Let them take arms. The remedy is to set them right as
      to the facts, pardon and pacify them. What signify a few lives lost
      in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from
      time to time, with the blood of patriots and tyrants.
      It is its natural manure."

      by:

      Thomas Jefferson
      (1743-1826), US Founding Father, drafted the Declaration of Independence, 3rd US President
      Source:

      November 13, 1787, letter to William S. Smith, quoted in Padover's Jefferson On Democracy, ed., 1939
    2. Re:Yes. What's unconstituional by Opportunist · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Your conscience. At least mine is the ultimate decider for legal and illegal, not some law. Following unjust laws made unjust governments possible in the first place.

      --
      We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
  4. But... by Xenna · · Score: 3, Interesting

    ...we still need trackers, right?

    X.

  5. Decentralized? No servers? No trackers? by xmuskrat · · Score: 3, Interesting

    We had applications like this previously to bittorrent that did not list files, and one of the big golden opportunities of not maintaining a file catalog was that you didn't really have the possibility of you having illegal content on it, it was just like downloading. You don't see companies like Microsoft or Mozilla getting pressure about the fact that people download copyrighted files there. Decentralized? As in no servers, no directories and no trackers for files? How do the individual nodes find each other? If you have something where nodes pass their knowledge of other nodes along (the longer you are connected, the more nodes you might potentially learn about) that could be interesting. But how can you have something totally decentralized? Can discovery truly work on a whole-internet-sized scale?

    --
    activestudios web design
  6. pink floyd meddle by Rick+Richardson · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Download Cubit 0.31. Put in string "pink floyd meddle".

    Lots of hits. But no "pink floyd meddle".

    Maybe next year...

  7. Re:This can't stop "graph takedown" attacks... by Klaus_1250 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Nope. There are other things you can do of course. Reputation based schemes like Credence ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Credence_(reputation_management_scheme ) applied to peers could help you boot off peers out of swarms with no or poor reputation. This would force certain organizations to build reputation up first, but keeping that will be a tough cookie. Won't be fool-proof, but will make it harder. Not many people will give RIAA/MPAA the thumbs up.

    Then there is small world theory. Downloading stuff through trackers from people you don't know is somewhat silly. You should be able to get the same content (though a bit slower) through semi-trusted contacts. The only way to defeat that is infiltration by certain organizations, but, rather tedious and difficult.

    You can also create a scheme where you us peers as proxies. Instead of downloading something directly, you ask a peer to relay a bunch of encrypted anonymous bytes for you. Will slow down speeds well over 50%, but difficult to defeat.

    There about a billion more ways. The fact that they are not implemented yet, is simply because most p2p-apps/networks don't want to start an arms race.

    --
    It only takes one man to change the Wisdom of the Crowd to Tyranny of the Masses.
  8. Re:Nonsense by jcgf · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Digital files can be copied without depriving the original owner of theirs, be it software or music. Your money was taken from you leaving you with less (I hope your insurance covered it).

    Now just imagine once 3d printers become cheap enough for the common household... Manufacturers of small cheap trinkets had better be worried because their time is next.