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The Rise of Geekdom

cynagh0st writes "In what can only be described as the biggest newsflash for the Slashdot community since Microsoft was sued: It is the age of the geek. New York Times Op-Ed columnist and author David Brooks writes a brief article that can be best summed up in the following: All your culture are belong to us. In the article proper he summarizes the rise to power and discusses a technocratic geek dominance on the social construct. He writes, '... the new technology created a range of mental playgrounds where the new geeks could display their cultural capital. The jock can shine on the football field, but the geeks can display their supple sensibilities and well-modulated emotions on their Facebook pages, blogs, text messages and Twitter feeds ... They've created a new definition of what it means to be cool, a definition that leaves out the talents of the jocks, the M.B.A.-types and the less educated ... There are now millions of educated-class types guided by geek manners and status rules.'" I'm thinking Brooks must have been AFK for the 2nd half of the 90s when this started. To be more precise, late 97 ;)

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  1. No, it is the age of the farmer and miner by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    and oil worker.

    Paper shufflers and pixel movers are beginning to get a dose of harsh reality.

    1. Re:No, it is the age of the farmer and miner by jorghis · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Eh, not really. You think the oil workers are getting paid the big bucks or the nerdy engineers who work for exxon? I knew several people who went to work for big oil from my school, they were all nerdy engineering types and they are all making a small fortune. It isnt the working class guys in bottom rung jobs that are making the big money at oil companies.

    2. Re:No, it is the age of the farmer and miner by jorghis · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Wrong, this stereotype of "companies are led by dumb frat guys" is just a combination of nerds feeling down on themselves and dumb jocks trying to convince girls they will be successfull one day.

      Here are Exxon's top five executives, only two on the list didnt work at inherintly nerdy positions at exxon and thats because they joined company later in their careers after they had transitioned to management (ie they started out as nerds):

      CEO has a degree in civil engineering, joined the company as a production engineer.
      Mark Elbers, senior vice president, has a degree in petroleum engineering and joined the company as an engineer.
      Michael Dolan, joined the company working in a research laboratory, also has many academia related positions in engineering.
      Stephen Simon, has a degree in civil engineering.
      Donald Humphries, has a degree in industrial engineering

      I could go through and list every executive working at any of these "big oil" organizations, but you get the idea. We all love to hate on executives, but generally speaking board members want somebody very smart and hardworking to run their multibillion dollar company.

      I guess there may be some areas where the guy at the top of the food chain is a sales guy who cant do algebra, but if the company has any "nerd" positions at all those are generally the people who will rise to the top.

  2. Technical expertise is insufficient ... by AHumbleOpinion · · Score: 4, Insightful

    They've created a new definition of what it means to be cool, a definition that leaves out the talents of the jocks, the M.B.A.-types and the less educated...

    What makes you think MBA types are not geeks? I am currently in an MBA program and let me assure you that there are plenty of geeks. When classroom discussions turn to Linux, open source, GPL, etc there is no shortage of students to provide a better overview or definition than the text book or case study is offering. There are even leaders in the FOSS community who have decided to pursue MBAs. Some geeks eventually learn that technical expertise is insufficient to make their dreams occur. That business knowledge may also be required.

  3. Geeks still get beat up.. by PC+and+Sony+Fanboy · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Being an adult geek is one thing - and your peers have generally learned to respect your choice, no matter how they may feel about it...

    But on the school yard, especially for 10-14 year olds, "geeks" still get beat up, and tortured by the "jocks" and the popular kids.

    it might be the age of the geek-y adult, but it is NOT the age of the geek-kid.

    1. Re:Geeks still get beat up.. by Joe+Tie. · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Not only that, but after he has Hermione do his work for him he'll proceed to ignore her as anything but an androgynous tool that he'd never actually go out with.

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  4. Age of denial by BPPG · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Any jock can have a facebook, blog, or 'text message'. The real geeks are, and will always be the ones who work in the background.

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  5. Nah. It's marketing. by Animats · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Nah. "Geekdom" used to be about doing stuff. Now it's about owning stuff. Marketing has taken over "geek" the way it took over "cool".

  6. Only Geeks Think So by ScentCone · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ... guided by geek manners ...

    Really? Which manners are those? I deal with people deep inside geek culture, and those as far away from it as possible. Some of the brightest, most articulate, well-mannered people I know are geeks. But then, that also describes some farmers I know. And some artists. On the other hand, taken as a group, the larger body of geeks with which I'm familiar also contains the biggest number of rude, snarky, grasping, deceitful, jerky, foul-mouthed louts I've ever encountered. Very bright people that don't just lack good manners, they aggressively pursue a manner and bearing that is confrontational, mean-spirited, hypocritical, often delusional and ultimately often self-destructive... even as they complain that nobody likes them. You all know who I'm talking about (or know who you are!).

    I know some very inspiring geeks. But I don't find them to be any more numerous than I do inspiring fine artists, or even inspiring landscape designers, chefs, dog trainers, or English teachers. Every demographic has some. But few demographics have as many mal-adjusted asses per capita as do the geeks. I know, since I'm one of them. This whole concept is wrong. It's not "rise of the geeks" as seen in their online public forums and playgrounds. No, this is just "re-emergence of smart people who are able to communicate in interesting ways ... and use technology to do it." The whole point is that technology is now to where you don't have to BE a geek in order to use it, and we're just seeing bright, interesting people from all walks materializing in places that USED to only include technologists.

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  7. Writer doesn't know what a real geek is. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If an article on geek culture references facebook as part of showing how superior we are then the writer doesn't really understand geek culture at all.

    All of the *real* geeks that I know either shun facebook ("Hello, privacy invasion!") or use it in some very minimalist manner. Facebook is for the masses and we geeks aren't the masses.

    One might even argue that the real geek still posts replies here as "anonymous coward" for the same reasons as they don't use facebook: slashdot doesn't need to track what I read, from computer to computer and if people don't mod up our comments, so what? We don't need to bask in the glory of being "5: Insightful" - we know our comments are :)

    I'd venture to add that if being geek-cool implies facebook, then this has potential to include more MBA-types than geek-types.

  8. Not quite true. by speroni · · Score: 5, Insightful

    While being a geek is now acceptable, it's not automatic coolness. Technical prowess has some merit and the online community is overflowing to "real life" but the pimply overly self conscious kid is still socially awkward.

    I think more to the point it has become clear that technology is a valid career path and, that being the case, the "popular" people are willing to accept it as a career path. Socially outgoing people have made geekdom popular, not the other way around.

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  9. Pay attention to Cats by rgmoore · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Sorry, but if if it's really true that "All your culture are belong to us", then it's time to remember the following sequence:

    You are on the way to destruction
    You have no chance to survive, make your time
    Ha Ha Ha Ha
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    There's no point in questioning authority if you aren't going to listen to the answers.

  10. Re:something going mainstream does not become bad by TeacherOfHeroes · · Score: 4, Insightful

    While it does seem sad that some people should define themselves merely as 'different' at any expsnse, there are other, more legitimate reasons why the mainstream - whatever that may be - can be argued to be unappealing.

    The problem is that once something goes mainstream, the quality of the content that makes up that culture begins to decline rapidly. People interested in making money enter the game, and try to squeeze out those who are genuinely interested in making something neat. It's happened again and again as various niche cultures are thrust into the mainstream consciousness. For every real, interesting work/artist/idea there are 10 cheap knockoffs being peddled by media/retail companies.

    Music is a perfect example; every time a new genre becomes popular, imitation bands are "discovered" by all the recording companies, and they flood the market with dozens of identical-sounding bands until what was appealing about the culture is eroded by bottom-dollar competition and fear of experimentation with something that already "works".

  11. America has always been a nation of geeks by tjstork · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Thomas Jefferson : Geek. Made all sorts of inventions at Monticello

    Westinghouse : Geek. Invents airbrakes.

    Edison : Geek. Genuine Geek. Anyway one that could think of electrocuting an elephant to prove the superiority of his or her technology, well, that's a geek.

    Henry Ford, the Dodge Brothers, Stanley family: all geeks.

    Being a genuine geek is not about the kind of clothes you wear or what sort of a show you watch. It's about having an uncontrollable urge to express yourself by making things. Geekdome isn't even an academic thing. Machinists at WL Gore, guys that build their own cars and people that alter their own guns, those are all geeks.

    Sure, its nice to hope that some of us will get stinking rich off of something we invent, but most of the time, we're really more inventing because the curious act of exploration occupies the mind in such a way as to silence for a time the storms that otherwise lie within it.

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  12. Re:I don't think so by fyoder · · Score: 4, Insightful

    but the geeks can display their supple sensibilities and well-modulated emotions on their Facebook pages, blogs, text messages and Twitter feeds... I would call myself a geek, but I avoid using all those things like the plague. The only thing one could make a case that I use is a blog (/.). You're probably an actual geek. Media services consumers are just... well, consumers. They say, "look at me, I'm on teh internet!" whereas the real geek says "Do not bother the man behind the curtain, he's busy making all this shit run".
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