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Mars Probe Brings the "Weather Rock" New Respect

radioweather writes "What looked to casual observers like a malfunction, a dangling wire with something on the end, seen in the first photo of the meteorological mast on NASA's Phoenix Mars Lander, actually turned out to be the real instrument. Surprisingly, it is much like the novelty 'weather rock' seen as a novelty gag around the world. The instrument called the 'Telltale' is described as a 'passive wind indicator' and uses an extremely lightweight Kapton tube hanging in Kevlar fiber. Images taken of the instrument will show the deflection of the Telltale due to the Martian wind."

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  1. I have this rock by morgan_greywolf · · Score: 4, Funny

    It picks winner of any sports game, series, etc., everytime, in advance.

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  2. AOD by Stanistani · · Score: 5, Funny

    Fascinating. This may be the first time 'angle of dangle' could be used in an actual scientific context.

  3. Don't you hate it when... by tiedyejeremy · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Don't you hate it when... Simple makes sense?

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    1. Re:Don't you hate it when... by krog · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The windsock is pretty tough to beat.

    2. Re:Don't you hate it when... by blueg3 · · Score: 4, Informative

      Your $1 version would undoubtedly not survive the trip to and landing on Mars and be counted on to work without further human intervention.

      Believe it or not, building devices to be transported to and function on other planets does take a fair bit of work.

    3. Re:Don't you hate it when... by Stanistani · · Score: 4, Insightful

      That's true. You could build it for $1.

      Now, step two: Get it to Mars.

  4. Re:Why not a weather vane? by desenz · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It definitely wins in the durability department. Dust is a real problem on mars, so wherever that weather vane pivots would have to be sealed up pretty tight.

  5. Re:Why not a weather vane? by hcpxvi · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Remember that the surface air pressure on Mars is very small compared to on Earth. So you need a much lighter and more delicate instrument for the air to be able to move it. Anything resembling a traditional weather vane would probably not respond to the tenuous Martian breezes. Even if it worked at first, it might well get stuck after the first of those Martian dust storms blew dust into its pivot. Disclaimer: Yes I am a meteorologist. No, I have not been to Mars or worked on any instrument that went there.

  6. It's called a 'wind sock' by Chris+Burke · · Score: 4, Informative

    And they already had enough respect as a simple form of wind indicator. You may have seen one at an airport, for example. It's not a weather rock.

    See, the point, or "joke" as it were, of the weather rock is that it can't actually tell you anything you wouldn't have already known due to your own senses. "If it's wet it's raining, white it's snowing, bouncing and there's an earthquake." But you could tell all those things without the rock... get it?

    A wind sock isn't very sophisticated, but it tells us things that wouldn't have been as apparent without it.

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  7. Martian weather forecasting rock by mikael · · Score: 5, Funny

    Martian weather forecasting rock

    o Rock has dust on it - there has been a martian sand storm

    o Rock is swaying back and forth slighly - a martian sand storm is brewing

    o Rock cannot be seen - there is a martian sand storm

    o Rock is white - there is frozen water on Mars

    o Rock is levitating - There is a UFO with an anti-gravity beam

    o Rock is floating - Rock is in orbit around planet

    o Rock has gone - UFO has been here and removed rock

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  8. Can't wait... by slashname3 · · Score: 4, Funny

    I can't wait for the first manned landing with the first weather report from Mars. "Well it looks kind of windy, hold on, let me take my glove and helmet off so I can lick my finger and hold it up to get a measurement of what direction the wind is blowing...." "POOF!" "ARRRGGGGGG!"

    "Mars base, this is Houston, over"
    "Mars base, this is Houston, over"
    "Damn, I think we lost another weatherman..."

  9. Re:This Is Science! by mcmonkey · · Score: 4, Funny

    So, of course, they will collect both angle of dangle (azimuth) AND degree of dangle (intensity), both of which vary over time and circumstances.

    So NASA can finally answer the question, how's it hanging?

  10. Re:Why not a weather vane? by Scratch-O-Matic · · Score: 5, Funny

    That's why I read Slashdot, so I can find innovative and workable solutions that were dreamed up after five minutes of consideration, rather than wasting time observing and learning about the decades-long efforts of a bunch of idiot engineers who have no friggin idea how to design, launch, navigate, land, and operate an interplanetary exploration robot.

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  11. Re:Why not a weather vane? by Profane+MuthaFucka · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Great, Now make your nice lightweight fragile weathervane survive 9g's of reentry and almost that amount on launch, plus numerous bumps at various times in the mission.

    Touchdown on the Mars Surface was 5 miles an hour. How hard could it be. Now, crash your Toyota into a wall at 5 MPH and you might find that the 5 MPH bumpers really only work at 4.95 MPH. Oops.

    It's easy to make a lightweight weathervane. It's hard to make a lightweight weathervane, get it to Mars, and still have it in working order.

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  12. Re:This Is Science! by FurtiveGlancer · · Score: 4, Funny

    So NASA can finally answer the question, how's it hanging? Definitively, and from millions of miles away!
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  13. Dowsing rods don't detect anything by CustomDesigned · · Score: 4, Informative

    A dowsing rod doesn't actually detect anything (even according to practitioners) - it is simply a device to magnify subconscious body language of the operator. The theory is that the human operator detects water via poorly understood senses below conscious awareness. Some dowsers don't bother with the rods, claiming to have trained themselves to become more aware of these senses.

    I know I "see" something like a flash of light whenever someone turns on a fluorescent light with magnetic ballast in another room - so I don't think the idea of additional senses is completely crazy.

  14. Re:off topic - sending a rock by Ford+Prefect · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Would it be difficult to design a small launcher that could contain scooped rocks, dirt, etc from Mars and be launched towards Earth?

    Quite difficult, but it is being planned...

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  15. Re:Why not a weather vane? by mazarin5 · · Score: 4, Funny

    but once it starts swinging in the opposite direction its practically impossible to tell if the deflection is from an opposing wind or merely the pendulum swinging. Because the motion of a simple pendulum is one of the last great unsolved problems in physics?
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