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Would You Rent a Song For a Dime?

An anonymous reader writes "What's worse than a padlocking every song so that they will only play on certain devices? How about selling (renting) you songs that work on no devices? Astonishingly, this is what the music industry thinks we need. Warner Music is spending $20 million to back Lala, a startup devising a service to convince people to 'buy' 'web songs' for 10 cents each; these are then kept for safekeeping only by Lala with no download privileges. Industry insider Michael Robertson leaks the facts on this scheme, along with a seekrit URL so you can try it out."

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  1. Imaginary Property by NoobixCube · · Score: 4, Interesting

    So now we're meant to pay ten cents for the right to imagine we have imaginary property?

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  2. Doesn't seem so bad... by pirodude · · Score: 5, Interesting

    So they're letting you listen to a digital copy one time? Time to start firing up the flash ripper and start scraping the site. Chances are they're not sticking stupid DRM or watermarking in their own 'secure' player.

    Granted having your entire music collection in fla is annoying, you can probably can convert it to something a little more usable.

    Sounds like a great source for large volumes of music.

    1. Re:Doesn't seem so bad... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

      To expand on that previous finding, here's a script that lets you download any song you want:

      #!/usr/bin/perl

      use strict;
      use LWP::Simple;
      use Data::Dumper;
      use JSON;
      $|=1;

      die "$0 <search param>" unless $ARGV[0];
      my $root_url = "http://next.lala.com/api/AutoComplete/songAutoComplete";
      my $content = get "$root_url?prefix=$ARGV[0]";
      my $ref = from_json($content);
      my $num = 0;
      foreach (@{$ref->{data}->{list}}) {
        print "$num : $_->{artist} - $_->{title}\n";
        $num++;
      }
      print "Download which? > ";
      my $req = <STDIN>;
      die "not valid" if ($req < 0 or $req > $num);
      my $download_url = "http://next.lala.com/api/Player/getTrackUrls?flash=true&webSrc=lala&widgetId=LalaHeadlessPlayer&T=" . $ref->{data}->{list}->[$req]->{playToken};
      my $play_url = get $download_url;
      my $play_ref = from_json($play_url);
      my $download_link = $play_ref->{data}->[0]->{url};
      print "Getting: $download_link\n";
      my $filename = $ref->{data}->{list}->[$req]->{artist} ."-" . $ref->{data}->{list}->[$req]->{title} . ".mp3";
      print "Downloading to $filename\n";
      system("wget -O '$filename' $download_link");

      It's quick, it's dirty, but it works:

      perl download.pl tiesto
      0 : Tiesto - Ten Seconds Before Sunrise
      1 : Ti&#195;&#171;sto - Forever Today
      Download which? > 0
      Getting: http://cfs-listen-52.lala.com/contentfs/content?t=NjU1MzVVNDM2OTE1OQ%3D%3D-vSOzDPPcV8VwbKW6Bwdv%2FQ%3D%3D
      Downloading to Tiesto-Ten Seconds Before Sunrise.mp3
      --2008-05-27 18:16:09--  http://cfs-listen-52.lala.com/contentfs/content?t=NjU1MzVVNDM2OTE1OQ%3D%3D-vSOzDPPcV8VwbKW6Bwdv%2FQ%3D%3D
      Resolving cfs-listen-52.lala.com... 209.237.235.158
      Connecting to cfs-listen-52.lala.com|209.237.235.158|:80... connected.
      HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
      Length: 3609494 (3.4M) [audio/x-mpeg]
      Saving to: `Tiesto-Ten Seconds Before Sunrise.mp3'

    2. Re:Doesn't seem so bad... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Here's a better version that gets many more results from a different webservice.  Apparently the front page one is very limited:

      This one will do paging, use n/p to go next/previous  when prompted.

      #!/usr/bin/perl

      use strict;
      use LWP::Simple;
      use Data::Dumper;
      use JSON;
      $|=1;

      die "$0 <search param>" unless $ARGV[0];
      my $ref;
      my $offset;
      my $req;
      while(1) {
        $req = "";
        my $root_url = "http://next.lala.com/api/SearchUtils/search/v19.110.0-24?Q=$ARGV[0]&sortKey=relevance&sortDir=desc&Nb=100&Sk=$offset&webSrc=lala";
        my $content = get $root_url;
        $content =~ s/new Date\((\d+)\)/$1/g;
        $ref = from_json($content);

        my $num = 0;
        foreach (@{$ref->{data}->{songs}->{list}}) {
          print "$num : $_->{artist} - $_->{title}\n";
          $num++;
        }

        print "Download which? > ";
        chomp($req = <STDIN>);
        if ($req =~ /n/) {
          $offset+=100;
          next;
        }
        if ($req =~ /p/) {
          $offset-=100;
          $offset=0 if $offset<0;
          next;
        }
        if ($req !~ /\d+/ or $req < 0 or $req > $num) {
          print "Invalid!\n";
          next;
        }
        last;
      }
      my $download_url = "http://next.lala.com/api/Player/getTrackUrls?flash=true&webSrc=lala&widgetId=LalaHeadlessPlayer&T=" . $ref->{data}->{songs}->{list}->[$req]->{playToken};
      my $play_url = get $download_url;
      my $play_ref = from_json($play_url);
      my $download_link = $play_ref->{data}->[0]->{url};
      print "Getting: $download_link\n";
      my $filename = $ref->{data}->{list}->[$req]->{artist} ."-" . $ref->{data}->{list}->[$req]->{title} . ".mp3";
      print "Downloading to $filename\n";
      system("wget -O '$filename' $download_link");

  3. Eh? by TheRealMindChild · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I don't hate the idea... so long it isn't the only way to obtain music. Sometimes I get a song stuck in my head and I only want to hear it once or twice, then forget about it for another few years. That's worth the $0.20 so that I don't have to hunt for a torrent or other file sharing media... and wait. But make no mistake; This is no alternative for being able to purchase a whole, unencumbered album that I can listen to indefinitely.

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  4. Every permutation... by ConceptJunkie · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Every conceivable permutation of DRM restrictions has to be tried and failed until the barely-chordates in the music industry will realize it's a terminally flawed business model.

    I imagine the schemes will become more and more elaborate, more and more draconian, and more and more amusing for those of us who've had a new thought since the compact disc was invented.

    I'm very happy with mindawn.com and emusic.com, and physical CD purchases for those other things I "just gotta have". Everyone else can take a flying leap.

    I will just sit back and enjoy watching the churn.

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  5. Re:It's called a jukebox by Martin+Blank · · Score: 3, Interesting

    There's a difference between the jukebox at the diner (played for public consumption) and playback in one's home, car, bike, etc (played for private consumption). The intention is the differentiating factor: even if you can hear it outside the house, it's intended primarily for the people in the house, and therefore a private playback.

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