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YouTube Fires Back At Viacom

NewYorkCountryLawyer writes "As we say in the legal profession, 'issue has been joined' in Viacom v. YouTube. In its answer to Viacom's complaint (PDF), filed Friday, YouTube says Viacom's lawsuit is intended to 'challenge... the protections of the Digital Millennium Copyright Act ("DMCA") that Congress enacted a decade ago to encourage the development of services like YouTube.' It goes on to say that the suit 'threatens the way hundreds of millions of people legitimately exchange information, news, entertainment, and political and artistic expression.'"

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  1. The best part was left out... by DrEldarion · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The best part, in my opinion, is that they requested a jury trial. If they get that, Viacom is even more screwed.

  2. Too bad by dunezone · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Even if Viacom were to win this, they would still be losing out.

    Where is the first place I go to find clips of a show? Youtube. After that I head off to google in hopes of finding it somewhere else.

    Would I go over to Comedy Centrals website? SpikeTV? MTV? No, because these sites are cluttered with garbage and intrusive AD supported video players. I usually get lost at these sites anyway.

    Also, I'm 22, the perfect demographic for these opportunities and you've seem to have alienated us over the years with your garbage websites.

  3. Given the track record of both parties... by hyades1 · · Score: 5, Funny

    The loser in this case will be whoever has the smallest bladder.

    --
    I've calculated my velocity with such exquisite precision that I have no idea where I am.
  4. Summary of YouTube's response by TheRedSeven · · Score: 5, Funny

    In response to all your claims:

    "No we didn't."

  5. Viacom's case by TheRedSeven · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Viacom's case seems to be based on the fact that it's too hard for them to keep up with all the copyright infringing materials posted on YouTube, and therefore YouTube should bear the burden of distinguishing what is and is not infringing. This is just silly. The burden under the DMCA is clearly on the part of the copyright holder, and that's the only thing that makes sense for companies who simply offer services of hosting.

    The only other point Viacom has is that YouTube transfers all video into their own 'proprietary' format and then 'copies' it (by which, I assume, they mean "show it on multiple instances of XYZ web browser"--or maybe backups). This is akin to saying that WordPress has its own proprietary format for blogs, by which it copies and distributes information. What a joke!

    And things get funny toward the end of the response, too. YouTube denies point #24, which reads:

    Defendant YouTube, Inc., is a Delaware corporation with its principal place of business in San Bruno, California.
    If you can't even get that right, you may as well just give up!

    My prediction (and hope) is that Viacom loses this one quickly and effectively.
  6. Is the goal destruction of the DMCA safe harbor? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I've been increasingly concerned about this in the past, but this suit seems to add significant evidence to my thesis.

    As I remember, the DMCA has a safe harbor provision for "platform" and "network" providers that, basically says - as long as you don't exercise control over the content on your platform/network, you cannot be sued for infringement, the plaintiff must sue the one who uploads/transfers using your service.

    However, YouTube has entered into agreements and instituted technology to pre-emptively purge it's "platform" of copyrighted material - Therefore, they are no longer protected by the safe harbor.

    I would hazard a guess that those network providers who implement the pre-emptive content blocking of copyrighted materials being shared by peer-to-peer filesharing will eventually also be targeted.

    It's interesting that the *AA are insisting on pre-emptive content filtering and the network and platform providers are giving in -- not realizing that in doing so, they cease to be protected...

    IMHO - The *AA knows they soon will no longer be able to go after end users - the handwriting is on the wall. So they are setting up the next wave of lawsuits - network and platform providers. Since these are typically corporations that will simply pay to get rid of a lawsuit, it's easy money.

    But in order to sue them (or have a reasonable threat), they have to make sure the safe harbor provision does not apply. As soon as a network or platform provider begins to filter the traffic or content, the safe harbor doesn't apply and they're fair game.

  7. Re:FP? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Not only bring back xenutv1, but explain to us how the Church of Scientology can open another account after having their first one removed due to harassment and cyber-bullying?

    It is of course Google and YT's prerogative to operate their site as they see fit and even violate their own ToS as they have very clearly done here.

    But by keeping xenutv1 shut down while allowing a Scientology to open a sponsored account calls into serious doubt how much we can trust YouTube to remain an impartial advocate of free speech in the user-created content industry.

    Do No Evil my foot.